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In that situation no, 6A is better. Also, 3C as a necessary mixup? Dunno where you got that one from. I never use 3C outside of a hit confirmed combo, or I have meter and I'm playing Litchi or Ragna cause I know they'll try and counter with 5B.

Hakumen's need to learn to mix up, imo. too much air dash, which is a free 6A for me.

Unless you have meter. 3C....what are they gonna use to punish?

Believe me, I know. My point is, after any 28D hit, I know what will connect and what won't. What is there to hit confirm?

?? I guess you'll have to excuse my ignorance? If you hit 28D, why would you have try and hit confirm?? If I hit Tager/Hak I know I can 6C, BnB. If I 28D CH on most anybody else, I know I can 6C, IF they don't tech at a very small window. If I hit 28D without 2D I know I can 6C anyone. If 28D is blocked, I'm not hit confirming anything, I'm getting raped. I guess if you're concerned about distance maybe?

Ah, I should have realized that. I'm still not sold on that combo. I haven't really implemented it in my game yet. I think it would be hard to hit confirm that for the simple reason there is so much time before 2D hits. It can look like it's going to hit em crouched but they have so much time to stand. I'm pretty sure I've even seen some players on GameChariot mess this up on the last update. If they IB it at the last second and you're already inputting 6A, you're screwed. That's why I like 2D, 28D with meter. If it hits, RC air dash, combo. If it doesn't RC, air dash, JB crossup, continue pressure. The 2D, 28D, RC, air dash combo also does a little over a grand more then 2D, 6A etc. I can see how it can be useful without meter though.

28D>6A>5A>28D>6C How the hell is this even possible? Unless your playing someone with a big hitbox, you're not going to be combing of 2D, 28D without meter.

3+k damage is useless? RC for 2D, 28D is useful in more ways than one. 28D RC, air dash, B crosses up and is a bitch to block. I've won a couple matches with this. You also have enough time after the cross up to throw out a JD cancel of your choice. If 28D hits, RC, air dash, 3K combo. Sounds like a win/win situation to me.

Most of the ones I use have been mentioned, cept a few. About the only other use is to finish someone off whether it be after drive loop or air combo. RC to get those last few hits in. Oh, and 28D, RC, air dash, 6C, drive loop rocks as well. I've also been thinking about a tech trap in the air after 236C. If you rapid that and they tech a certain way I think you might be able to get a reset with JB. Haven't tested this out yet though. Could be useful towards the end of a round.

I'm not a Tager player, but one of my friends plays Tager and the other Jin. The Jin had him frozen and he rushed in to continue pressure and the Tager did a 720 which busted him out the ice and caught him with the 720D. Was the sweetest thing I've ever seen. Tager's hand bursting through the ice and grabbing Jin by the head, pure awesomeness.

There might be something better, but I use the standard 5C which will give you CH and you can combo after that. Ugh, it seems though that her DP pushes you out, even without barrier. About half the time my 5C will whiff and I'll eat a staff in the head. It might be better to dash 6A or something.

K, this matchup is buuuuulllshit. Any more pointers to defeating this annoying whore?

Some nice stuff in the blockstring vid. Thanks for putting that up.

lol, no, I was the Noel. And I think we were too busy laughing at the time. I could barely do the BC loops. If you notice in the vid, I stop and have a "wtf" moment, then go in for the kill.

K, thx for the explanation. Still, do you really think they intended this to happen? Looks absolutely ridiculous.

Lol, this happened tonight when my buddies and I were playing. I'm guessing some kinda bug? Dunno..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W59qEeb5zBE

I think it might be a matter of spacing most of the time he used 236A, it looked like to me his 2C hit at the very far tip. Obviously, it is not something you would want to spam. Other than that, I liked the way he used it when the Rachel would tech neutral.

I saw a vid with Noel doing her 6C loops into drive combos and I was immediately hooked. My brother came over after I got the game and asked who the best character in the game was. I said, as far as I know, Nu. Can't wait for the patch!