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not a rumor it's a lightning pole after it makes contact with anything, i've actually seen this in a match before, kind of cool might hold a tiny bit of potential.....

Did Nirvana not take projectiles in CT??

oh and also try combos involving winding the lobelia after hitting the opponent...my guess whould be 236A 8D (before you recover) 214C i''d like to know if it's a good pressure string/ combo starter/combo ender/good for a combo in general, grounded plz, RC off lobelia in a combo is'nt worth it, if it were j2C would'nt be considered utterly useless....like 6B

also try double lobelia combos since no one here ever seems to remember to try

well, i guess, but it's the same thing with her j2C, sure it's a bit safe if your near a pole plus it combos....but is it woth it? i can't say but she does need all she can get...possibly 6b CH 214C 66 5CC 236B 214A works to push them away and regain momentum for your zoning

well i believe Rachel raped carl back in CT cause he couldn't catch her for shit and couldn't loop her, in CS her zoning is a lot easier to get by but she can still technically run away.....she just cant get in...basically it went from carl cant catch her to rachel cant do crap but zone, becuase even if she does get in....she can't do crap, plus 3K isn't too bad on carl, i actually felt bad doing 5k stuff on him

It does i've done it before, in fact there's a combo vid where the rachel use 2B to OTG double frog combo a non 3C-able charatcer it went something like 5B 5CDC 214A 66 2B 236A TK george 2D 66 3C (until george hits) 22A 3C [214A] in fact this combo should still work so long as you can re-summon George if he hasn't shocked but anyways, 2B 236A combos the timing is a bit strict though, i'm assuming it's easier though since 236A looks to be faster Edit: was there a nerf other than proration on 2B i was unaware of..... Edit2 : actually this combo may not work anymore....since george is in mid electricution when you re summon him...unless the cool down is only after he's done....double frog comboing non 3C-ables....is gone too ;-;

what about just 2b into 236a it combos it's just harder then 5b >236a or 3c>236a

here goes another http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9080142 3:30 Rachel vs Tsubaki 3:40 Rachel OTG combos with george into aother setup i'm almost positive he messed up on 3:58 combos off an anti airing lobelia 4:52 4B 5B 5CDC 236B iAD j.BC air iris land BBL a previously mentioned theory combo that did pretty respectable dmg 6:14 Lobelia gets shot back by barrier Q_Q 7:50 it was though 2B 5B would pick the opponent up too high for frog to OTG but 5B does the job 7:52 it hits them to high to 5CC wall bounce... 8:02 keeps them in corner by doing TD 8:44 tsubaki power walk this video made me kinda happy, even though it's Tsubaki, and he lost, it shows potential and growth

try not to kill yourself http://gamenyarth.blog67.fc2.com/blog-entry-4926.html?id=sm9073352http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IILzP7nyARI 4:43 (4:57 for youtube) Uate(Rachel) vs Testsu (jin) 5:12 we see 2C yet again...combos into her arial bnb and after a j2c he does A lobelia which could possibly be viable on DP-less characters 5:19 Interesting combo and setup but it sortof failed, i'm sure he could've just comboed into sword iris and made things better 6:44 winded self THROUGH a prohectile after teching, not sure if you could do in in CT but maybe we can do quick tech>4D? not sure if it's much use though http://gamenyarth.blog67.fc2.com/blog-entry-4926.html?id=sm9074009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqPLVqmJo_M 0:36 shuuta (0:35 for youtube) (ragna) vs murajin (Rachel) nothing much too note for this Rachel except some air iris mind games All in all, both Rachel's were pretty mediocore in terms of defense, not sure we can get much from these vids

ok guys get ready to kill yourself http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9063229 Rachel's matches start at 11:46 Edit: damn my stupidity for looking to see if rachel was in more vids after she lost....second time being beat

here goes a vid from the (.)(.) video thread, i've seen better stuff but..it's a bit old...even though the game is less than a month old... http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm8984514

isn't there an esukiu vid?

They didn't save CS Tager from rape and they wont save us, hopefully this wont ever happen to her again, i wonder which character is gonna be the joke next year, oh Arcsys after doing AC did you forget how to balance?? I'm a sad panda

probably becuase she cant

Good thing we live in the US then, looks like i have a chance

..........who isn't.....i think bang ragna and litchi are gonna be the most popular, hopefully not though seeing as how they seem to be the best right now Q_Q Anyone else think Litchi's dmg is retarded? Easy meterless 4k and 6c kote cancel actually...kote cancel in general... no one fits me like rachel, it's sad they trashed my favorite char, and if i don't main her my friends'll be all "TIER WHORE" I'm just really sad right now, i lost all hype for CS

I to will be one of the very rare rachel mainers in CS i woint give up, if Tagers can win in CT, Rachels can win in CS, i look at mike z for inspiration on this, i've seen him beat countless Nu's, now it is our time to beat countless bang's

I dont think he combo would be much use, since you wouldn't get the 4 wind kind, i do however know 5B>TD works, but the DD doesn't look like much except maybe a reversal, can someone test that actually, i heard it had little invuln but if it's at the start up then it could be a good for getting out of the corner, i know we have CA but if we can get more dmg off the same heat why not?

i really dont see how they could go so wrong on her....the peopple working on her either didnt know what their partners had done or just though "Fuck this bitch, she's going down" and made all us loli fans cry, either way, i feel anyone competent could've reasonably nerfed her, it's really not like we didnt know what was so OP about her, my real guess though is that they overall wanted to keep the same playstyle for rachel and just slightly nerf all her moves, and throughout the loketest it got worse..and worse...and they accidentaly nerfed all her moves a bit too much, we can hope for frog oki next BB i'm sure, or something to give us oki tools, and we better get that extra twirl in pumpkin gone, hopefully soniti can try to find some gimmicks (Bah gimmicks i'm losing it)

i'm...........losing hope....someone find something ridiculous....i can deal with the new R tier...but i need my loli to be able to actually do something Q_Q Right now, it looks like we wont have any matchups above 4-6 in our DISADVANTAGE, although Tager had bad matchups too, R TIER FTW

hmm, maybe it's possible someone with BB:CS in their area can make some sort of video to show us some options for her....so basicly like a combo video or maybe something like H.H made ie. a video full of setups she can pull off, idk....just pretty eager to see what new rachel can do, even if it's not much, maybe some sort of video that shows us changes but like..in video form..>_> bah, anything is appreciated

well, does she at least look playable to you guys? We all got to play her as our sweet little OP loli and now we can sweat it out as low tier, i'll main her through thick and thin (this iteration happens to be whichever is worse), but all i need to kow to play her is does she look at all viable? On another note, although her j.2c isn't to great to use as a crossup anymore, posibly if you have a pole near by you can do 5B>iAD> air iris or maybe even BBL seeing s how it's faster, also i know the dmg is nerfed but can does BBL still have a pretty long block stun? I'm almost sure in the next BB Rachel'll turn out at least mid and never come back to....this,i also have a feeling special cancel will stay for j2c, but only on block, and you'll be able to actually do something with it by normal canceling , but anyway i'd like to see if thay crossup was a viable choice

GGeorge has less health than in CT lobelia just doesnt destroy projectiles anymore, it only absorbs them, he can still be killed by pretty much anything else though...even 2A mash Q.Q

i was wondering about her 3 pole setup and honestly ...This....is.....awesome