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Bang's 6B has better prorate. source Dora

this is what bothered me the most.... so jB is alot easier to deal with now?

this is not the discussion thread... http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv66441215

i love you dacidbro no homo... i feel the same way.

i agree, c0r said cs1 litchi was dirt for months, which was totally not true at all.. i'm completely agreeing with you and not him lol

no

～ 画面中央 ～ ・5A>5B>2B>2C>双 ・3Cfc>2B>5D>JB>J4C>J4C>JC　【約2700】 ・6Cch>B釘着地>C>6D>大噴火　【約5500】 ・2D>JD>2B>5D>JB>J4C>JC　【約2000】 ・2D>JD>C釘>6D>C釘>5C>6D（キャラ限） ・空投げ>3C>ダッシュ2A>5B>JB>J4C>空双　【2800】 《立ちくらい》 ・5B>2B>6C>JD>2B>B>JA>JB>J4C>J4C>JC>A釘 ・5B>2B>6C>dlJA>JC>5A>5B>JA>JB>J4C>JC ・5B>2B>6C>空中ダッシュJ4C>空双>5B～ ・5B>2B>6C>JD>C釘>ダッシュC>6D>双or大噴火 （6D>大噴火の入らないキャラには5D>大噴火で代用） ・2A>5B>2B>6C>JD>C釘>6D>C釘>5D（キャラ限） ・5A>5B>2B>6C>JD>C釘>6D>5D～（姫、虫、磁、狼、氷？限定） 《しゃがみくらい》 ・5A>5B>2B>5D>双or大噴火 ・5C>5D>双or大噴火 ・B>2B>D>低空D釘>B>D ・C>D>低空D釘>B>D ～画面端～ ・B>2B>双>B>6C>J4C>空双>B>6C>J4C>JC>A釘　【3977】 ・B>2B>双>B>6C>J4C>空双>阿修羅or大噴火　【約4100 or 4786】 ・C>D>双>B>6C>J4C>空双>B>6C>J4C>JC>A釘　【3472】 ・C>D>低空双>6C>JD>C釘>C>6D>双　【約2700　三枚】 ・C>D>双>B>6C>jcJD>2B>6C>JC　【約2800】 ・6B(ch or RC)>B>2B>双>B>6C>J4C>空双>大噴火　【4556】 ・3C(ch or RC)>2B>双>B>6C>J4C>空双>B>6C>J4C>JC>A釘　【4195】 ・3C(RC)>C>6D>双>B>6C>J4C>空双>B>6C>J4C>JC>A釘　【4727】 ・5B>2B>3C(RC)>5C>6D>双>5B>6C>J4C>空双>5B>2B>JB>J4C>J4C>JC　【約4700】 ・2Dch>5C>6D>双>5B>6C>J4C>空双>5B>6C>J4C>JC　【約4700】 ・2D>JD>2B>5D>低空双(端バウンド)>5D　【四枚】 《立ちくらい》 ・B>2B>6C>空双>B>双>C>6D>噴火 【5077】 ・6C(ch,B釘投げない着地)>6C>空双>B>双>C>6D>噴火 【6594】 ・5B>2B>6C>空双>(裏回り)>6C>JD>C釘>5C>6D>双 《コマ投げ》 ・コマ投げRC>C>6D>双>B>6C>J4C>空双>B>6C>J4C>JC>A釘　【5444】 ・コマ投げRC>C>6D>双>B>6C>J4C>空双>大噴火　【約6300】 ～風林火山～ ・5B>2B>6C>6dcJ4C>7dcJ4C>JD>2B>双>大噴火　【約5600】 ・5B>2B>2C>6D>6C>6dcJ4C>7dcJ4C>JD>2B>双>大噴火　【約5600】 ・JC>2C>6dc>2D>6dc>5C>6D>4dc>2B>6C>8dc>J4C>2dc>9dc>J4C 　>2dc >8dc>J4C>JD>1dc>C釘>大噴火　【約6000】 ・JC>2C>2D>5C>6D>2B>6C>J4C*2>JD>2B>J4C*5>空双>阿修羅　【6620】 ・2D>J4C>J4C>J4C>1慣性移動JD>着地>5C>6D>大噴火　【約5800】 ・空投げ>J4C>J4C>J4C>JD>5C>6D>大噴火　【約6000】 source http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi/game/45148/1317822082/8

its not listed on the first post but pumpkin has worse proration and frog does less damage. hime sama was tooo strong i guess :3

i have a long list of changes but i have to go to school... Bang got super buffed, he seems like the strongest atm (imo). Dora tweeted last night "Bang is strong". going to have to wait until night unless Fluck comes on the bang forums :3

Bang is A tier

jC crossup not paying the bills for you?

we can probably find somewhere for you guys to stay if you need it too

crosell, which Norcal guys are trying to go? we might have 3on3 or 2on2 and i'm need to try to form some kind of list for people who are traveling

Zeth, when Webnail catches rolls or otg, it puts them slightly in the air, allowing a 5C 6D combo the webnail isn't supposed to be for emergency tech meaty... its to stop them from doing anything else EXCEPT emergency tech

oh shit... console will be out by then... yeah lets mash some of that too

personally, I feel that he is close to A tier tbh.... its just that the rest of the list is pretty silly in some spots. especially if horizontal matters... and why the fuck is rachel so low?

yes... OMIT 2B for the first list and OMIT 5B for the second one

idk man, i'm really terrible at smash bros bang mirrors. But i'll accept i personally like the current schedule st1ckbug posted

i think there will be excessive drinking the whole time for me, but it looks good.

omg using two attacks to create an unblockable? what a great idea... C0R deserves the golden star for the day... I hope he does as much damage as he did in the loketest.

thats the combo for CH 5D/2D/jD/623B/j623B/6C omit 5B for CH 6D/2C/3C

its actually an attempt to do a combo, which works off drive CHs/2C/3C/6C/623B/j623B for example, FC 623B (close to opponent) dash delay 5B 6C delay jump forward 4C jC Bnail dash 5A Explosion (bnail second hit) 5C 6D 623B combos

i'll be there... i'm joining AE and Blazblue atm...

webnail 5C 6D 623B 5B 6C j4C j623B reverse daifunka. in general, " 5B 6C j4C j623B reverse daifunka. " is always the highest damage ender if its possible in combo (at some times, the proration is too much). also, normal grab RC goldburst into corner combo does almost 5k with 50 without super ender.

another new corner combo oki setup. blah into 2B neutral jump j4C jC command grab wiff Cnail. this oki setup beats rolls/quick/no tech options (if timed correctly) and pretty much forces people to respect your corner oki. combo does 5.5k if they decide to do something stupid (with reverse daifunka ender) it actually loses to neutral tech jab/dp if you are too close to the opponent (its possible to do the setup slightly outside of jab range, but you are in recovery of the nail), so only use this if they like to roll out/disrespect your corner game. if you don't throw the cnail, you will have the advantage. from dora..