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i'm about to blow you up.

no its the active frames, go test it yourself.... edit, i think its both....

you can wiff cancel the active frames into astral

I agree, i don't have a ps3 so i can't test anything, but i just thought i would add that to the list of OS's

its too bad, the idea of BB oki is that you give the opponent a bunch of options they can use, but in high level play, its not very good to use anything but neutral tech. its kinda sad that people still struggle with getting people to respect your oki with characters that aren't tager. also, you can OS goldburst with meaty 5A/2A, and if the burst comes you can block if you hold back, but you can chain into other normals if it hits or gets blocked.

at best, 3C can be -6 on block if it hits on the last active frame. A good opponent will punish you for doing that. late tech will blow this up as well. its okay to do wild stuff once in a while, but try to hold of on using that more than once vs someone decent.

lambda had 323 psr, that rachel's psr was 320

dude, dora did quick getup like 3 times and did dumb shit after he got a huge life lead. he deserved to lose.

thanks linear, i'll mess around with it today

i could stream me peeing on c0R with my noel sometime :3 I xcopy Minami noel :3

they are kinda iffy... 5B 5C 5C delay dnails into 5B or 5C meaty 5C 5C dash 5C meaty 2D this honestly looks like a troll list, but its pretty decent at stuffing ddddddddddd honestly, I feel that i kinda just have to be feeling myself to always correctly call it all out. normally just stuffing it a couple times is enough. tk command grabbing noel out of 2D is hype and practical. also...my noel is pretty gdlike. i don't use her drives at all though, because i didn't learn those combos.

yo, 4D and (maybe) 2D beats 5A during drive *mash* but they always beat 5A as drive starters. 2D is very effective againist noel drive. I also wouldn't say you could just hit her out of her 21 frame overhead, because... other than 5B 5C, bang's gatlings into 5C all can be stuffed by mash.

actually..... bang's 5C is actually hits overhead on frame 24 on the average character and possibly later on a smaller character such as...noel. Isn't noel's drive overhead 21 frames anyways edit: Noel's 3C is pretty low risk high reward vs bang. he gets almost nothing for punishing it in CS2 due to noel being in low profile during the recovery.

i don't think its good. it could work i guess. Its super easy to call out too

my personal input: i felt like the cabs were fine joystick wise, and that it was just weird for alot of people because it was on arcade cabinet rather than on arcade stick. there was a bit of input lag though.

The bnail is supposed to hit. The second j4C is kinda hard to do. It has to be really fast.

i did a quick test on the difference between three CH 5D combos 5D 5B jB j4C iad j4C j623B does 2117 18 meter Best damage/metergain/corner carry, but combo ender can't be super long. (in some situations, it will end up being worse than combo two) 5D 6C iad j4C j623B does 1994 14 meter slightly less corner carry but because you use less normals, there will be less proration and might allow for a bigger corner combo 5D 5B 6C j4C jC Bnail dash 5A 5C 623B does 2744 and gains 30 meter no real extension to this combo, only use if they won't hit the corner from j623B in the previous combos. i would recommend using the first and third combos, but there are situations that the 2nd one is better. the corner combo enders in my previous post is pretty useful, you guys should check it out if you get a chance

metergain is slightly higher and the corner carry is about the same. the damage is similar too.

okay, so here are a couple really useful (new) combos the special thing about these combos are that with CH or 50 meter (sometimes for free), you can always put the opponent in the corner while doing good damage. Please remember that the IAD combo is possible off all of the Counter Hits you can do the Bnail Combo with (6D,5D,2D,2D,2C, 3C,623B,j623B). 5B 2B 3C RC dash 2B 5D j4C airdash j4C j623B into corner combo - If you are in the corner or kinda close to the corner, this combo allows you to push the opponent into the corner like the makoto jD combo. The trick is to RC 3C fast enough that they are not laying on the ground when you hit them with 2B. The j4C will put you on the other side of the opponent. Daifunka RC 623B 6C j623B 2B jB j4C jC - most optimal (as far as i know) 100% meter combo off daifunka. CH 5D 5B jB j4C airdash j4C j623B into corner combo- Since i don't ever see anybody do it... CH 6d iad j4B 5B j4C airdash j4C j623B into corner combo - pretty stylish and practical, useful when in the corner (or near it) Crossup combo like the RC combo. airgrab 3C 2A 5B jump forward j4C airdash j4C j623B- full screen corner carry (NOBODY uses this right now, but its the best combo) back throw air dash bnail dash 3C 2A 5B jump forward j4C airdash j4C j623B- meterless combo off backthrow with no cost. FULL SCREEN corner carry its hard to do but i've seen it multiple times in match now for corner combo ender and okizeme (please note that 2B works on everybody except ragna and valkenhayn, so use 5A 5B super jump jA jB j4C jump cancel jC into jC again) so any corner combo that goes blah into 2B/5B 6C j4C j623B you can do a couple things. 2B super jump neutral jB j4C neutral jC - the second jC stops them from doing dumb shit and also allows you to get knockdown while being on the ground (the jC doesn't combo but it beats rolls/quick getup, the setup is free to do because you will recover if they neutral tech) Similar to the double jC ender with Valkenhayn 2B super jump forward jB j4C jump back jC delay bnail iad forward - bnail hits the same way that the jC does in the earlier setup. if they tech immediately after getting hit by bnail they end up in the air (very close to the ground). Sets up great high low mixup and a chance for a air grab too! (my current favorite thing about CS2 bang) this is all from what i observed in jp match vids, i didn't actually make any of this

you are the king of smash bros... :3 and I know, school is much more important than video games... Fall Quarter doesn't start until the 28th for me. then i'll be sad too PS: I asked a question on the... Ask a top player (Dacidbro) thread on SRK. You should answer it sometime soon. Its not a troll question either.

Time for my incredibly long shoutouts post... Shoutouts to Chun for helping PNW make it to NorCal, and being awesome in General Shoutouts to Honnou, for letting me bum at your place again and buying my icecream lolz. EX hyper mode was great. Eventually i'll pay you back somehow haha. Shoutouts to ShadowFiend, hyping me up all day. Shoutouts to CopperDabbit for helping PNW make it to NorCal. (i heard c0r paid you back already lol) Shoutouts to CopperDabbit again, for buying me a drink and hanging out :3 Shoutouts to James Xie for being gdlike.... and taking care of Noel for me (i didn't want to use ragna in tourney) Shoutouts to sG, stay free motherfucker... you shoulda had more shots with me. Shoutouts to Orion, Whiteboywilly, and Crosell, being hella fun to hang out with. I don't think trolling 2gb would've been as fun if you guys weren't there/and me drinking the whole time lol. Shoutouts to Viper TE that won me the tourney. Shoutouts to Blkmage whom i almost double perfected in Bang vs Tager, before he decides to counter pick with Noel (lolz). Shoutouts to Zong_One for being a douchebag and not showing up to NCI (its only a 6 hour drive for you ) Shoutouts to PNW scene whom apparently all bet money on sG, Dsmoove, and CopperDabbit winning the tourney. STAY SAD MOTHERFUCKERS. Shoutouts to WallJumpMan for not giving up and getting that runback. I'm so happy you won the second time. Shoutouts to Dacidbro trying to stay relevant but failing (jk). I just want you to know that i went out of my way to learn Valkenhayn to make sure i don't have to play Smash bros (read: bang mirrors) with you again :3 Shoutouts to Ginseng for getting that GvG in with me (i'm sorry i'm a pad player on that game for now...) Shoutouts to Tushar for being gdlike and helping me with my first fried chicken and waffles meal. Shoutouts to Bobby for giving me 10 dollars and beating me in RPS 2 to 4. Shoutouts to Donavan, good shit man your getting better. keep working hard. Shoutouts to GGJ, keep training :P Shoutouts to Coopa, Bang vs Tager is 6-4 in my books :3 too bad we didn't get a chance to hang out this time. Shoutouts to Myung for being super awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!! We will return. Shoutouts to Rin for being awesome. Shoutouts to 2GB Combo for staying free to my Ragna and Valkenhayn. MUAHAHHAHAHAHAH Shoutouts to Me... for drinking Crown and Coke all day long (in a coke cola bottle), taking shots in the car, drinking with copper dabbit, winning all my matches 2-0, feeling like shit and then getting Fried Chicken and Waffles the next day. Also, Oregon Police is the real winner of the tourney, because the bodied me with a ticket that was about the same cost as my winnings (FML) Shoutouts to C0R for using all the anti Dacidbro training and exposing the fuck out of him on stream. Shoutouts to Dusty for not getting salty, and using the chance to netplay in real life for 7 hours :3 Shoutouts to SpiritJuice getting sad for not getting Chicken and Waffles if i forgot anybody, i'm sorry..... It was cool hanging out and i'll see you all at NWM3

using the raw j4C airdash j4C is very helpful for some the new combos/setups i'm going to post. Bang can always put people in the corner if he has 50 meter (without daifunka). I'll post it all together. my execution sucks really bad so i guess i'm going to have to grind it out. I try to do it the same as 6C iad j4C but it doesn't work lol.

does anybody have any tricks or special inputs for doing the airdash j4C in this combo? FC 3C 2B 5B j4C airdash j4C j623B or airgrab 3C 2A 5B jump forward j4C airdash j4C j623B i have a post full of new technology that i saw in match videos but i'm currently organizing it. thanks... (i've been sad trying for the last hour)

sweet thanks bro :3 it should technically work off 2C CH too i think

question of the week can anybody tell me how to do the iad combo off FC 3C? its possible and i saw it in an old gameacho video but i can't find it. thanks :3