Dacidbro

No, we're talking about CS2, and how the specific changes to the loop probably made it impossible in CS2. It pushes your opponent too far and is techable too quick.

Mystic D, you down for the 2v2 MM I posted last page, if they accept? :] Bang and Tao V Bang and Tao, the true even stakes team mirror match. I'd imagine the format being me V Plastic chicken FT2, you V Huey FT2, winners have won or if there's skewed winners they play for -all the money-

Yo thanks LK. Honestly it was a troll post to begin with, but you really did put some useful info down. I'll send it over to the kiddos Chun and Willy.

Yo Kaigu why huey gotta get all up in our thread talkin big time makin me have to do things like that :[ Im a nice mild mannered person yo

Yo bitch 2v2 Money Match, Huey 25Free + Plastic Chicken VS Dacidbro + Mystic D I got shit to prove

There is a sharp speed increase in the loop, and I've never even seen a Bang try it midscreen. I'm making an educated guess, since the most 'advanced FRKZ Bang' I've seen so far has only done it in the corner.

Ok so Tager you're going to be tanking, Noel, main healer. Bang, Tao and Litchi are going to be on DPS. Tager, could you run a number crunch, see what our chances are? Yeah that'll be about 32.33.. uh, repeating, of course, percent chance of success

It'll make a shit load of sense in CS2 For now, it'll just be ironic

Me and Coopa are going to fucking run trains on people TEAM LOW TIER COUNTERPICK IS A GO

She's ridiculous, right now. XDest knows what's up, great player.

Ey yo Vineeth, good shit in that MM. Next time it should really be more than FT2, but you played really really well for those two matches. Hype streamed money match next NCI??

The only legitimately strong mix up I've ever experienced from Tager is Gadget Slingshot.. Everything else is like a 3 way mix up where Tager has to guess the right one instead of you lol In the corner it's decent too.

I want to sig that.. but.. at what cost

Lord Knight, could you give an in depth critique of this video, if you have time? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y72cTX0Gi8k

Lol yeah I can agree with you, Litchi is still probably somehow worse. God CS1 Tager is so fucking bad.

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Osuna; if this was an official debate, I would have presented everything together. However, this is not an official debate, and I didn't use any logical fallacies anyway. All of my presented arguments were fair, and when they were challenged I added more supporting arguments to why the matchup probably doesn't suck as bad. I never said 6A and XYH 720 were godhand, definitely not, I said they were tricks that could help. Then when everyone just said "No you just don't know" And told me a hundred things I already knew I got a bit touchy. Anyway, I'm glad you know how to debate. If you want to have an official structured debate about this somewhere else I'd be glad to contend with you.

Actually many, many people have said that, and that's what I was arguing against.

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I actually do play Tager, and I know just how bad he is, and I know his buffs to the next game inside and out. I also know that the risk reward of this matchup is going to be much, much better than it was in CS1. I think everyone who thinks it's going to be worse are out of their minds, truthfully. I don't understand how a matchup could ever get worse than CS1 Tager V Arakune, where one incorrect guess is literally usually a loss (This is not at all the case with CS2 Ara V Tager; isn't that already better?) Maybe I'm missing something, but I've thoroughly studied both characters. Arakune's defensive options being sharply nerfed was a huge hit, IMHO, and it's something I don't see most people factoring. Severin, I understand. Getting the same angry negative response in every thread, despite trying to be helpful, gets to me eventually. I'll stop now.

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Well it's the difference between losing and winning. If a Tager player is willing to give up on the matchup before they have ever even played it, they've shot themselves in the foot mentally, and will never be competitive. Time to switch characters or man up.

See you just typed that in a way that is extraordinarily biased to make your argument sound better. It's called straw man, make me out to be some kind of completely uneducated dick to make it sound like you're the victor. Don't do that. It's not false hope, it's just hope. It's not blind optimism, it's educated optimism. Your educated pessimism is exactly that. So what's wrong with hope and educated optimism compared to educated pessimism? Mine maintains the future might be better, yours says you should just quit the game now because you have no faith in the developers anyway. Cool, see you later.

Huey, you know it's only love for you, I wouldn't be calling you a dumbass in serious