Dacidbro

Seriously, do you guys just sit around and wait for the best moment to make this site a depressing downcast place? Fuck off. The best way to improve is to fairly evaluate all options in extreme depth, even if they feel counter intuitive. Having a good base of ideas is a good thing, going into a newly balanced character. My ideas aren't hurting anyone, saying the matchup is bad and giving up is.

Educated guess optimism is uplifting and builds community Educated guess pessimism is destructive and tears down community

You dumbass, you just jumped into a conversation without even reading and you're saying stay free cali lol

Hey it's really cute that all you guys take the time to troll me every time I post, but the shit I post is COMPLETELY reasonable. I never said 6A or XYH 720 is god, just that it gives another option to Tager. You're still going to have to read, hard, but that's obviously Tager's character intent from the start. Tager's comparative risk reward in CS2 is going to be staggeringly high compared to CS1, where it's kind of one wrong read you LOSE, INSTANTLY. Even if you're cursed in CS2, it's not the end of the match. And for the love of god play some defense if you're playing Tager, so you can scope out the player without getting raped fast (All of the best Tagers I've seen have that in common, they are extremely defensively capable) Anyway, like I said, good luck with the matchup, it might be hard. Maybe you'll catch a break this iteration. But for fucks sake don't write it off before YOU have even played it, please.

Maybe like.. half a year ago LK what's your opinion on Zong1's arakune

If you think he came out on top on that one you need to adjust your glasses kid PS your arakune is garbage

I'll keep entertaining you as long as there's some douchebag waiting to call me out, in any thread. And I promise you, as long as this site is "dustloop.com", it'll keep happening.

Your argument for why my sentence had no validity is revoked by his own statement showing he had not realized another use for Voltech 720, which I explained in my post. Use your brain, I know you're smart, stop being an idiot.

Are you retarded? I used to think you had potential, but I'm rapidly losing faith.

Okay, let me try to explain some of the things that keep me optimistic. Lets say the Arakune V Ragna matchup, for example's sake. Ragna just HAVING a DP makes a lot of Arakune's options weaker, just because he has it. You don't even have to use it more than once, just to show your opponent they can't do that shit. I'm thinking similarly with 6A or Voltech 720 (Which DOES have more use than you realize). If you beat one jB with 6A, via HARD read call-out, he may become more hesitant to use it for his mix up (Where you can actually use this is up in the air, I imagine it will screw with his mid-range linear approach). Similarly, if you use voltech 720 to beat any of his mix up, he might get scared to mix you up. The reason I would suggest buffering it through a Voltech is because then you aren't restricted to the 6 frames of non-jumping, and you can specifically press it the very moment his hit box is available. That opens up beating well spaced non-magnetized 6A's with 720, for example. Hopefully that explains my argument a little better. I'm in class, and didn't have much time to eloquently explain, and still really don't care that much if anyone else gets it or not. If everyone writes off Tager too fast they'll probably just lose to him in some important tournament match later, a-la Justin Wong and Adon.

He's gonna blow you up

It looks different, fucks with reactions hard. People aren't used to 5A even existing in mix up. Also, people just got done blocking a high and usually returned to crouching after the 5A.

Actually, I've found the Jump in > 5A fuzzy EXTREMELY useful for characters like Ragna, I've never had 5A > 6B blocked over here in Cali lol

Deal. See you there.

You would seriously expect people to fully flesh out new tricks in one month, with fewer players playing Tager than most and only getting one play on the arcade in a long line? Get out of here, and please don't be so mocking with your tone it hurts my feelings.

That's a match I'm a bit nervous about, but I'm down. I've probably got more practice with it than you do :v

ok I have experienced many people erroneously referring to an airdash into extremely vague high low as fuzzy, then. I'll keep that in mind.

It very well might be, but it also might not. Give it time. I bet backdashing out of UB set ups will be critical, and I haven't seen a Tager do it yet.

Lmfao Too fucking good TOO FUCKING GOOD. @Osuna: There is more reason to believe it will be a better matchup than a worse one, as this installment was intended to balance the characters better, where Ara was on the top and Tager was on the bottom. For that reason, I can more safely say to wait for people to figure out the matchup and it should be BETTER, than wait for people to figure out the matchup and it should be WORSE. Basically, I haven't seen any Tagers trying to use their new fancy tricks, probably because human error is a huge factor in most of his new possibilities and they simply haven't had enough time to play around with it. IB 6A could be very strong, IB Voltech 720 may be very strong. He has possibilities, give it time. I guess my argument is the beginning of the match is much, much lower risk than it used to be, and Tager may be able to take advantage of that.

"Disrespectful to your opponent" was more to make a point than anything. If you can put the time in, you can definitely win with a "weaker" character, just don't expect someone who has spent equal time to get bodied by you. You get out what you put in. Also, personally, I always drink an energy drink or two at tournament. I believe it helps, but I can also just get things to work by placebo effect (IE if I drink this energy drink, I'll be able to tech Copper Dabbit's tick grabs in grand finals)

There's several definitions of "fuzzy", that's one of them; I've heard extremely vague high low off an airdash mixup called a fuzzy a lot of times. Oh! We could even combine them, by using jB j4C instead, to bring in the other fuzzy where they get hit by something that wouldn't have hit them because they had just blocked high then crouched. A fuzzy fuzzy.

You guys are ridiculous, you can't condemn the matchup before people have even been playing the game for 2 months. Give it time, stop being so pessimistic I know 6A doesn't have F1 SA, but it still should be incredibly strong against Kune.

Yo Scott, OrionXElite just called you out bad. "I don't want to take his X" is not a valid reasoning to not MM him, if you're gonna play my free Ragna.

Ok then just keep hitting them with 6B and stop being scared like a little pussy

I mean you do d5C 6D then jump back, jump forward/neutral; if they tech forward backdash put them in mix up, if they neutral, back, down tech airdash to jB jC/2A fuzzy. Not strong against DP characters. Also, if people block your 5C, roll 6B after it. If people block both, use that 6B Rapid to fuzzy setup you were hyping up. No one's going to block everything.