Anyway my point is he was retarded and other people backed him up. Dustloop embodies mob mentality, every single time I've gone against the popular grain I've been ridiculed, regardless of accuracy.
There was no victory possible, I tried everything. And while it's obvious now, apparently it was hard enough to realize that people absolutely did not get it, no matter how many ways I spelled it out.
EDIT: No he was arguing that because 5C was -8, you get hit. Not the semantics of safe.
A similar escapade occurred when I challenged the Rachel forum who were saying not to use 2C; I said it is a very useful guard point, and needs to be used to make your opponent have any respect for your defensive options. I was absolutely ridiculed. Granted, it's not the best move, but there are circumstances where you can use it on reaction to punish; naturally, it has functions, then.