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The only fucking thing I'm saying is that you can't react to it because of the literal limitations on human reaction time combined with the inherent vagueness of the move. I know this is true.

Yeah I seem to be the only one willing to argue, and everyone thinks they're right. I guess all I have to say is if 13 f is reactable why doesn't everyone block much more telegraphed overheads that are 5+ frames slower

It's not slow, and it's not even visible. 14 frames is still unreactable. 14 or 4 is the same thing, honestly. The only difference is that ticking in GG was better, because there was no pink throw garbage.

Awesome! :D Now we can play CS like never before! (with online lag)

Yeah.. so you're agreeing that you can't react to it? Bang's "set ups" are full of lows and can just continue into other pressure and high low, so you can't react to the set up either.

Well if you want his best ticks, it's probably 5A and 2A. The way galileo does it is really strong, spaces out the range and then deliberately whiffs one into grab. But this isn't what you were saying. Which is why I said your post was absolutely horrible.

You didn't mention 6A, which is one of Tager's few decent ticks. You said "2B is +5 so u cant hardly excape"

He's a human being?

... LOL. I thought it was just casuals. But that would be pretty funny too.

You can't Henaki hands during a MM Defeats the purpose

Okay since you seem to be gone now, I'll explain why this is your worst post ever. First, you show a move's static difference, when both moves are gatlingable. Makes static difference literally irrelevant. Second, you fail to account for the 7 or so frames you HAVE to wait for a command grab to be untechable, acting like even if your static difference comparison was legit, Tager having more blockstun would be a good thing. But it isn't. It just means that awkward pause that indicates a command grab is coming is MUCH larger, making it MUCH easier to react to Tager's grabs. Third, you ignore completely that Bang has the capability to force command grab range and Tager doesn't, and say that Tager's command grab has larger range AND THEREFORE SUPERIORRR

No but seriously, that post was RETARDED, and I want him to be able to understand the reasons.

Mac, more importantly, jumps are 4 frames for hakumen. You need a 4 frame window just to get off the ground.

Wow, from this post, I would think you don't even understand the game. Seriously. There's like three things stupid about this post and I want you to figure them out and tell me what they are.

Nope, that's the idea. For a command grab to be untechable, they had to be out of stun for 7 frames. Off a 2A, you just command grab almost immediately and you have perfect 7 frames. Off 5A you have to delay a little. Yeah you just don't fuck with CS ara in the air, without proper spacing.

Actually, if he could get the jump, it would recover fast enough for him to jab me. Bang's command grab does have garbage horrible recovery.

Chaos, you get stuck in block. You just get hit. Skye, most commonly when someone tries to IB backdash they get hit by 2A. But theoretically, you are right, a backdash is a good choice. But you'll never do it on reaction.

Bang can do a number of things about someone autopiloting jump, but the most basic and obvious is just continue the air tight blockstring.

You can't just fucking jump though. I make you crouch with the above blockstring. This tick grab is three thousand times better than anything Tager can do.

Skye you're out of your fucking mind. Just saying. The average human reaction speed for even a BASIC action (IE click this one button on reaction to an obvious animation appearing) is .222 of a second, which translates to roughly 12 or so frames. Then you add in actually translating your opponent's mix up correctly AND reacting with the right reaction, and there is no way that only adds another 2f to the equation. There's a reason the command grab lands so often in Japan, it's ridiculously fast and powerful. And if you're trying to yomi it, I'll just extend my blockstring. 5A 2A 2A 5B 2B Dnails 5A 2A 2A 5B 2B Dnails 5A COMMAND GRAB (You: fffuuuckkkkkk)

14f vague animation is not fucking reactable. You don't play this game yet. Yo, if SPARK was not reacting to it, I know it's not reactable. REAL FUCKIN TALK

Or, if you play patient and IB a lot, you probably only need one combo to get to 50 meter. And his command grab is unreact-to-able, in almost every way, in the 5A/5A>2A/5A>2A>2A string. 14 frames is not slow at all.

Yo biscuits; thanks

5PM just sounds sadlife universally. I've never been to a tournament that ended before it got dark.

I have to set the ground idea that if there was a BBQ at my house, there would be absolutely no alcohol or drugs, everyone would be best behavior and treat my parents and house with respect, etc, etc. Past even that, I'd have to get confirmation. And Realistically, there wouldn't be many places for setting up games. I can only really imagine one or two. It would be primarily just hanging around. Also, I would really lobby hard for reserving two days, instead of BBQ then tourney. If we want this to be a minor, with many different games represented, and the place closes at 5, we would need two days IMO