Soothesayer Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 Relius Clover being the "That Man" of Blazblue seems very likely. And wasn't it mentioned that Terumi had been taking orders? I don't think he's running things all by himself. I just hope they don't pull a Star Ocean 3 and Relius is like playing them in a videogame or some crap like that. Also, I've noticed that Carl is a bit similar to Edward elric from Fullmetal Alchemist. They both hold grudges against their fathers, their fathers were both great alchemists who mysteriously disappeared, both their siblings are trapped in metal bodies who they're trying to get back to normal, they're both prodigies, and hell they're both even blonde. Who wants to bet Relius has a homunculus floating in a flask somewhere?
MisoSowee Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 I'm super duper elementary about the storyline but i'll try my best to guess at a few.... by book i assume you mean the storyline? kinda confused on that... I'm sorry, I'll summarize again along with some new, if I may: 1) Does this blood scythe have something to do with the black beast? The book says how Ragna acquired it? It'd be cool if it did. I don't remember the storyline saying anything about how ragna acquired it though. 2) Does the book mentions about the fake Azure? well i'm actually not to sure about what you mean by book now.. 3) Might we consider that Bang has the Phoenix Nox? phoenix Nox? that'd be cool. like his master implanted it in him to hide it bleach style :P though i do not believe they mention that.. 4) Was Hakumen killed by Ragna during True Ending Scenario? If that is the case, that could be kind of a space-time 'normalization'? no he ain't dead. HE'LL NEVER BE DEAD. I believe. 5) How did Noel 'inherited' the true Azure? She always had it? Maybe Relius is crazy and put it in her? 6) Did Terumi caused (or played a role to cause) the end of space-time distortions or the opposite? doubtful. I'm thinking Terumi was just waiting for pure circumstance to get it right. 7) There are some gallery pictures which actually shows (directly or not) the black beast pitch black thing (ragna's, tager's and carl's event illustrations). Did those events occur in the present (2199) of the characters were sent back in time and killed (2099)? *confused* i believe it was from the past... 8) I quite don't understand a Ragna event where he fights 'himself'... and turns into the black beast... how come if he didn't fuse with Nu that time? He only says 'now I understand... there can be only one' and went berserk.. killing Noel afterwards... i don't even remember that.... sorry... 9) Did Terumi gave the fake azure piece to Ragna? I believe so, it came with his arm I think. 10) When Nu asks Ragna if it was the 'third time', was it because he killed the two other replicas (and they share the same conscience) or because it was the third loop? I'm guessing it's the third replica, and all replicas share the same conscious. I can't see there ONLY being 3 loops. Rachel seems to have toiled for a long time.... Regards I'm pretty stupid at the storyline but I tried my best and i feel bad cuz no one else is helping you D:
Blade Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 I would LOL if Relius WAS Yhat Man. One of the Nox Nyctores was mentioned to be a bell, you don't suppose it's a sound weapon?
Yggjrasil Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 I would LOL if Relius WAS Yhat Man. One of the Nox Nyctores was mentioned to be a bell, you don't suppose it's a sound weapon? If Relius was That Man, then I want Sol Badguy,Justice,Sin and Zappa as playable characters in BB#DD Accent Calamity+. Why Zappa,because I believe Arakune and him are related >.>
Soothesayer Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 I would LOL if Relius WAS Yhat Man. One of the Nox Nyctores was mentioned to be a bell, you don't suppose it's a sound weapon?Considering how the name of the weapon has "Rai" in it, I'd say it probably involves thunder and/or lightning. I know it seems like very little to go off of but Rai-something usually involves just that. If that is the case, then well...the whole Rachel's dad being the bell hero may not be too out of line.
TheLorax Posted September 15, 2009 Posted September 15, 2009 So Terumi = Ghaleon from Lunar: Silverstar Story. Snoozefest. Seriously though, I hope they do something more interesting with him than "he wants all power for himself" and make him have an agenda for the world that is admirable, but maybe misguided or something. I generally like the "heroes turned bad-guys" if they do it right. Hakumen doesn't count. Also, it has been stated that Arakune was the closest to finding the truth (I'll try to find the link) but it obviously cost him his humanity. I think this truth has something to do with the Boundary, not just that they lived in a time loop. I'm looking to see more of Arakune's past as well as what he was after in the sequel. Plus ya know... he has bees. Edit: Here's the link I referenced : ttp://www.gamesradar.com/f/blazblue-character-blowout/a-20090629103715421091
ryofoong Posted September 15, 2009 Posted September 15, 2009 It would totally make sense if Carl's dad totally manipulated Terumi because he's like a puppeteer and all. And then everyone thinks that Carl's dad is all smiley face, when in reality he's actually super EVIL ANGRY FACE!! That would also make Carl a little bit more important to the story. Since everyone seems to play a major role except for Arakune, Carl, Litchi, Taokaka, and Bang. Now where do those others get their 15 minutes of fame...
Mikachiru Posted September 15, 2009 Posted September 15, 2009 It would totally make sense if Carl's dad totally manipulated Terumi because he's like a puppeteer and all. And then everyone thinks that Carl's dad is all smiley face, when in reality he's actually super EVIL ANGRY FACE!! That would also make Carl a little bit more important to the story. Since everyone seems to play a major role except for Arakune, Carl, Litchi, Taokaka, and Bang. Now where do those others get their 15 minutes of fame... Yes, now Carl isn't completely useless!! XD
Lou_Cypher Posted September 15, 2009 Posted September 15, 2009 Relius Clover, the Alchemist. Terumi, wielder of Ouroborus. Ouroborus, a popular alchemical concept from Ancient Greece I think... Connections there?
caramelslice Posted September 15, 2009 Posted September 15, 2009 Also, it's nice to know that Terumi and Valk are the six heroes definitely instead of just speculating. It even gives you a warm and fuzzy feeling if you guessed right :3 Haha, but it's good to have a few things cleared up. I recall someone speculating about the emblems from the whole "the seal is broken" screen and how the Ouroboros was Terumi's. Right on again!
ryofoong Posted September 15, 2009 Posted September 15, 2009 Relius Clover, the Alchemist. Terumi, wielder of Ouroborus. Ouroborus, a popular alchemical concept from Ancient Greece I think... Connections there? FURTHER PROVING RYO'S ULTIMATE THEORY!! D:
Beast of Fire Posted September 15, 2009 Posted September 15, 2009 I'm super duper elementary about the storyline but i'll try my best to guess at a few.... by book i assume you mean the storyline? kinda confused on that... I'm pretty stupid at the storyline but I tried my best and i feel bad cuz no one else is helping you D: Thx MisoSowee. By book, I mean the Blazblue Setting Material Collection Information Suzaku mentioned at the first post. And the phoenix nox nyctores is mentioned by him at other post (about the ten nox'es') as well. I'm beginning to think they created this book to add more depth into the story for some characters like Carl and Terumi, whom weren't well explored in the console version story mode. Suzaku, may I ask you to translate all the characters stories? XD XD XD, LOL I beg you. About Rellius Clover, I doubt he is the Sixth Hero... I also think Lord Tenjo is the one. It seems that the NOL is losing importance as time time passes I see... Regarding questions 7 & 8) play Ragna's story, Path A, win everyone by distortion finish (astral finish count as well I believe). You will face Nu during Threads of Fate scenario, but she turns into Ragna instead. You face yourself and Ragna loses control of the Azure, gallery picture of Ragna killing Noel is shown afterwards... how come he became the black beast if did not fused with Nu? So Terumi = Ghaleon from Lunar: Silverstar Story. Snoozefest. Also, it has been stated that Arakune was the closest to finding the truth (I'll try to find the link) but it obviously cost him his humanity. I think this truth has something to do with the Boundary, not just that they lived in a time loop. I'm looking to see more of Arakune's past as well as what he was after in the sequel. Plus ya know... he has bees. Hakumen also say the same thing for Carl Clover if he loses to him during Arcade Mode. Regards
Jam-Kiske Posted September 15, 2009 Posted September 15, 2009 Regarding questions 7 & 8) play Ragna's story, Path A, win everyone by distortion finish (astral finish count as well I believe). You will face Nu during Threads of Fate scenario, but she turns into Ragna instead. You face yourself and Ragna loses control of the Azure, gallery picture of Ragna killing Noel is shown afterwards... how come he became the black beast if did not fused with Nu? This is the one where you face Unlimited Ragna right? Well... given your wording, if Nu turned into him then it'd still be her right? Which would make their fusing possible. But I'm just pulling stuff out of my butt... I did that story sooo long ago and was totally sleep deprived when I did them too...
Suzaku Posted September 15, 2009 Author Posted September 15, 2009 I'm beginning to think they created this book to add more depth into the story for some characters like Carl and Terumi, whom weren't well explored in the console version story mode. Setting Material Collection books are actually pretty common in Japan. When developers are working on games, they create a ton of information on the setting, characters, history, etc., in order to create a concise plot. There's usually a lot of stuff that doesn't actually make it into the game, and that's what these books are for. I think Carl's father, Relius, will be the "That Man" of BB... I mean c'mon, he's known as the "Puppeteer"? Puppeteer as in working behind the scenes and controlling puppets, puppets as in the BB cast maybe? I don't think I'd put so much speculation on Relius's shoulders, I don't get the impression that he's going to be a major villain. He's a famed puppeteer because he creates "dolls", not because he manipulates people. He was likely involved in the design of Nu (or maybe the Core Units in general) because of his skill with making puppets. Also, keep in mind that Hazama and Terumi aren't exactly the same character. Hazama is a member of the NOL's intelligence division, taking orders from the Imperator. Terumi is a ghost of one of the Six Heroes and seems to have his own motives. And regarding Bang's Nox, there's no information on it. If it's something he currently has on its person, they're keeping what it is a secret. By process of elimination, it's either the Muchourin, the Hououken, or not really a Nox Nyctores at all.
arctus32 Posted September 15, 2009 Posted September 15, 2009 And regarding Bang's Nox, there's no information on it. If it's something he currently has on its person, they're keeping what it is a secret. By process of elimination, it's either the Muchourin, the Hououken, or not really a Nox Nyctores at all. Either way Bang's still awesome without a Nox, or maybe there's a reason why it's not revealed.
Mikachiru Posted September 15, 2009 Posted September 15, 2009 Well, I think Relius has something to do with being BB's "That man" because he's the only character listed that never showed up in the game (but he's still mentioned). If he wasn't at least somewhat important, I don't think his name would be mentioned. Besides, he made Nu's body. That means something...XD On a side note, I can now say that Edwa- Carl isn't 100% psycho. His sister really is in a robot...
EndOfDreamz Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 the bell nox is obviously arakunes 6D.. lol j/k thnx 4 this info
TSHKN Posted September 22, 2009 Posted September 22, 2009 This is who i think the last two to of the six heroes are Yuuki Terumi is the one in the Robe on the right and the other one on the Left Under Valkenhayn is Lord Tenjo.
InspectorOda Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 Oooh I just thought of something. What if Carl's father Relius was actually Arakune? He mysteriously vanished from out of nowhere, is really smart, and would have made Nirvana at Sector Seven thus explaining why Litchi knows so much about Nirvana. As for the part about being a puppeteer, does controlling BEES count?
theroundtable Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 Based off her fancy new design, Tsubaki probably has the Phoenix Wing Nox.
SuperKawaiiDesu Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 Based off her fancy new design, Tsubaki probably has the Phoenix Wing Nox. Why is it covered in eyeballs and she has wings on her hat, so it might be her whole outfit :O
STenSatsu Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 Oooh I just thought of something. What if Carl's father Relius was actually Arakune? He mysteriously vanished from out of nowhere, is really smart, and would have made Nirvana at Sector Seven thus explaining why Litchi knows so much about Nirvana. As for the part about being a puppeteer, does controlling BEES count? I believe in story mode Arakune's human name is said to be Han.
Suzaku Posted September 23, 2009 Author Posted September 23, 2009 Based off her fancy new design, Tsubaki probably has the Phoenix Wing Nox. I don't think so, I get the feeling that her weapon isn't a Nox at all. The floating eyeball book looks like it's probably a Grimoire, and the rest of her gear, including her sword, has a matching eyeball motif.
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