Cool hypotheticals for Axl.

[Digital Watches]

Calm down.

[HolyOrderChipp]

5P-6K gatling, 2P-2H gatling, 2H special cancelable again. These would probably make him too good by a fair bit... And my perennial request for Rensen as a non-charge command. Oh, and buff 623P. make it come out on the first frame, give it back wallbounce on non-CH, make the attack invulnerable all the way through. Also, give back he 50 damage you took away from 214P between X2 and AC!

[Adelheid]

... While posts are being made in this topic, an Axl Bomber feint or FRC just before it goes active would be pretty cool.

[Greyvangelist]

All I'd really want is one or two faster pokes for close range.

[Silmerion]

... While posts are being made in this topic, an Axl er...FRC just before it goes active would be pretty cool.

I'd rather have an FRC that appears just as it goes active so you still get the downward motion.

[JinSaotome]

How bout Force Break Axl Bomber doable on ground, frames 1-9 full body invincibility. A man can dream, right?

[chickenfat]

fb bomber gives air dash resets like ky's ar frc fireballs....not too impractical i think:)

[Digital Watches]

Yeah, that'd be cool! Then corner pushes would be... well, really easy. Combo to {FB-->Airdash, j.6P/K/D-->}Repeat until cornered

[Adelheid]

Oh, you can already pull that exact same crap just mashing on FB bomber. Only difference is you have to FB bomber like once less per.

[Digital Watches]

Oh, you can already pull that exact same crap just mashing on FB bomber. Only difference is you have to FB bomber like once less per.

I'd say half as much, honestly. An extra FB covers about the same distance as an airdash.

[chickenfat]

yeah,fb bomber does cover alot of distance.just figured sometimes you might be able to spend less tension to get ppl in the corner for loops.and p.s guys.the axl/slayer av's are hilarious,lolz!!

[Digital Watches]

yeah,fb bomber does cover alot of distance.just figured sometimes you might be able to spend less tension to get ppl in the corner for loops.and p.s guys.the axl/slayer av's are hilarious,lolz!!

You vote yet?

[chickenfat]

wait.for the av or the actual election?lol. yes to both though.lolz!

[Digital Watches]

wait.for the av or the actual election?lol. yes to both though.lolz!

Aye, I did mean both.

[Silmerion]

Bringing back the Rashousen FRC because it's just so awesome.

[JinSaotome]

..It had an FRC?

[Silmerion]

..It had an FRC?

I meant that the idea had been brought up earlier in the thread. Sorry for the lack of clarity.

[Digital Watches]

Ah, yeah. Honestly, I think it'd be cool to have a rashou FRC that just acted like you traded with someone. It'd be kind of like Jam's throw FRC.

[Adelheid]

That would be a pretty cool way to get incredibly higher damage, yeah.

[Digital Watches]

Not that Axl really needs it. XP

[HolyOrderChipp]

Let me see... Benten FRC should be on the first couple active frames, so not only does it give more frame advantage, its hit and whiff timings are the same. H Benten should be given a better hit box. Oh, and you know how canceling into certain specials seems to push you back hella far? That infuriates me. Benten, both S and H, should NOT push you back when you cancel into them! (Actually, it could just be the push-back from the preceding normal that hasn't happened yet...) Anyway, I love H Benten combos, as they do more damage than Rensen combos for the same number of normals. (Regular Rensen combos, not Rensen FRC combos. Speaking of which.) Make Rensen FRC and FB instead! What I mean is, remove Rensen FRC, and make a Rensen FB that recovers as quickly as a Rensen FRC does now. This isn't really a buff, but damn do I hate FRCs!

[Digital Watches]

Heh. That FB thing would actually be a nerf, since it wouldn't allow you to hitconfirm before committing to the FRC.

[HolyOrderChipp]

Wait, you're telling me you hit confirm the Rensen itself before FRCing? That's crazy... Or do you mean you hit confirm the preceding move? Even so, wouldn't you want to FRC it to continue pressure if blocked? But really, how many Axls would complain?

[Digital Watches]

Wait, you're telling me you hit confirm the Rensen itself before FRCing? That's crazy... Or do you mean you hit confirm the preceding move? Even so, wouldn't you want to FRC it to continue pressure if blocked? But really, how many Axls would complain?

Both, but mostly the former. I can occasionally hitconfirm up to the rensen, but usually you're confirming into it from a sweep or something.

Either way, an even worse problem is that you'd lose the option to get a knockdown from rensen (There are times when benten won't work) when you don't have 25%+ meter. I still say it'd be a nerf/

[HolyOrderChipp]

Isn't the FRC on the first few active frames? Wouldn't you need to be crazy fast to confirm the move itself? Also, why would you lose a knockdown? You'd still keep regular Rensen... The FB would just replace the FRC. Also, to whoever suggested a ground Bomber FB, I would love that. It would give me SO many more B-Loop opportunities... Edit: What I had meant was confirming that the Rensen had hit before FRCing.