Here.There Posted October 13, 2009 Posted October 13, 2009 learning rachel after jin is really complicated, but this guide helps a lot. thanks!
ilikeusingdizzy Posted October 14, 2009 Posted October 14, 2009 the rachel thread participants have good avatars.
Konton Posted October 15, 2009 Posted October 15, 2009 the rachel thread participants have good avatars. Agreed. Gotta rep dat loli.
kro_ Posted October 15, 2009 Author Posted October 15, 2009 Updated. Zoning is next. People say I'm pretty strong at this aspect in particular so look forward to it.
Tari Posted October 15, 2009 Posted October 15, 2009 Updated. Zoning is next. People say I'm pretty strong at this aspect in particular so look forward to it. I'm definitely looking forward to it. Totally random, but I happened to notice this typo while reading (I'm such a grammar nazi... sorry): Learn the first four combos in this section and you will already be ahead of the pack. Frog combos and frog combos into super are a staple or Rachel's game due to the amount of wind she regens and the oki setups they provide.
kro_ Posted October 15, 2009 Author Posted October 15, 2009 I'm definitely looking forward to it. Totally random, but I happened to notice this typo while reading (I'm such a grammar nazi... sorry): oops fixed
rurouni572 Posted October 15, 2009 Posted October 15, 2009 Wow, this is awesome. I like how you break down her combo game into a mini buffet. Choose your starter --> choose your filler --> 5b 5cdc --> choose your ender. Very comprehensive. And whaddya know, the weekend's coming up! Time to work hard on combos @_@.
Kuuhaku Posted October 16, 2009 Posted October 16, 2009 Good stuff. Exactly what I need to add more variety to my gameplay. Though, I'll read this more in detail when I'm not next to the moon and suffering from jetlag.
kro_ Posted October 19, 2009 Author Posted October 19, 2009 Updated. The rest will probably be significantly shorter.
Istillduno Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 Sweet, didn't know about the 1d/2d/3d after a TK frog trick. Thanks for all the hard work.
Tari Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 I learn so much stuff from reading this. xD Great job, kro~.
XvKissBlade Posted October 20, 2009 Posted October 20, 2009 I'm having a lot of trouble landing the dash during the "(after 5cdc, summon frog (214a), dash, and perform an OTG (3c => etc); *denotes a frog will hit at this point if the opponent is froggable)". I tried against both Hakumen and Jin in various circumstances (in corner, midscreen, midscreen push to corner). Unless I mess up the dash and mashed the 3C close enough to them from a wind, I can never catch them with the 3C portion of the OTG. Basically one portion of the combo never seems to be quick enough, whether it be the 214A, or the dash after it or how quickly I enter the 3C.
Zinac Posted October 20, 2009 Posted October 20, 2009 I'm having a lot of trouble landing the dash during the "(after 5cdc, summon frog (214a), dash, and perform an OTG (3c => etc); *denotes a frog will hit at this point if the opponent is froggable)". I tried against both Hakumen and Jin in various circumstances (in corner, midscreen, midscreen push to corner). Unless I mess up the dash and mashed the 3C close enough to them from a wind, I can never catch them with the 3C portion of the OTG. Basically one portion of the combo never seems to be quick enough, whether it be the 214A, or the dash after it or how quickly I enter the 3C. The frog combos works on Jin only in the corner. It'll work on Hakumen anywhere on screen. Theres no trick to doing the combo. As soon as you recover from frog run up and 3C. These kinda questions should go in the general discussion thread or the combo thread. Just read through those because this kind of question has been asked and answered before.
kro_ Posted November 2, 2009 Author Posted November 2, 2009 I promise I'll finish this before CS comes out
MisterBadguy Posted November 5, 2009 Posted November 5, 2009 I promise I'll finish this before CS comes out Take your time It's a huge undertaking, and we all appreciate it. :D
Mishaguji Posted November 6, 2009 Posted November 6, 2009 I'm having a lot of trouble landing the dash during the "(after 5cdc, summon frog (214a), dash, and perform an OTG (3c => etc); *denotes a frog will hit at this point if the opponent is froggable)". I tried against both Hakumen and Jin in various circumstances (in corner, midscreen, midscreen push to corner). Unless I mess up the dash and mashed the 3C close enough to them from a wind, I can never catch them with the 3C portion of the OTG. Basically one portion of the combo never seems to be quick enough, whether it be the 214A, or the dash after it or how quickly I enter the 3C. The frog combos works on Jin only in the corner. It'll work on Hakumen anywhere on screen. Theres no trick to doing the combo. As soon as you recover from frog run up and 3C. These kinda questions should go in the general discussion thread or the combo thread. Just read through those because this kind of question has been asked and answered before. Zinac, the question was "How to do the dash properly" not "Why won't it work against XXX characters." Also, nice guide, Kro.
Kuuhaku Posted November 6, 2009 Posted November 6, 2009 I know sometimes I have a hard time dashing online. >_<;; It sucks. Sometimes it's my controller hating me and other times I time the dash too early so it doesn't come out. On that note, will you go over Rachel defensive options? I know the biggest issue for me is getting out once I'm pressured.
God_Of_Olympus Posted November 7, 2009 Posted November 7, 2009 On that note, will you go over Rachel defensive options? I know the biggest issue for me is getting out once I'm pressured. this is like every rachel's hardest thing to get used to, I honestly would like a list of punishable stuff on iB since i'm to lazy to test stuff myself
kro_ Posted November 19, 2009 Author Posted November 19, 2009 Updated. Finished part III. I will probably go over that latest video by H.H. next time. Also, I just found out there was a 30000 character limit for one post. Also, no list of punishable stuff. I don't know enough about other characters to do that. Nor do I want to test it. Just rely on your eyeessss.
killionaire Posted November 19, 2009 Posted November 19, 2009 Yay! And you managed to finish it just as CS came out in Japan! Looking over it now.....
Kuuhaku Posted November 19, 2009 Posted November 19, 2009 Updated. Finished part III. I will probably go over that latest video by H.H. next time. Also, I just found out there was a 30000 character limit for one post. Also, no list of punishable stuff. I don't know enough about other characters to do that. Nor do I want to test it. Just rely on your eyeessss. But I'm half blind and asian. Fuck. It looks like I'll have to get lasik after all. On a more serious note- thank you for the guide. CT should theoretically still be playable in the US until console version hits. So I guess there's no harm in still practicing... even if like 80% of this stuff didn't make it to CS.
kro_ Posted November 20, 2009 Author Posted November 20, 2009 Just j.2c and frog oki setups. I think everything else will remain intact. And zoning will have new stuff with movable frogs and aerial iris.
Tari Posted November 20, 2009 Posted November 20, 2009 Just j.2c and frog oki setups. I think everything else will remain intact. And zoning will have new stuff with movable frogs and aerial iris. The frog lockdowns might get screwed up by the fact that you can blow him around now, too, not to mention his new respawn timer. I really want to play around with CT. :8/:
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