crazycrackers Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 l heard Madao came up with more combos? He's had two combo videos from what I understand.
TD Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 Ah, those. Well, l can honestly say that the spike loops are pretty impractical and not worth the 3+ winds for average damage. But 5b 5cdc 214a 3c 236a x2 6c 1d bbl is.
GenoWhirl Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDOdq57t1M0 Just...learn these. Inputs of Darkness Combo 1 6A > 5B > j.C > 2CJC > LV2 j.2C > BBL > 214A > 236A > (Dash > 3C (1-3 hits) > 236A > 3C (1-3 hits) > 214C > 6C8D > j.C > j.C > j.236A) (4K) I shall call the thing in parenthesis 3C Copter Combo 2 Throw > 7D > Dash 5B > j.C > 2DJC > j.2C > BBL > 214A > 236A > 3C Copter (4.2K) Combo 3 5B > 5CDC > 214A > 3C copter (I only did 1 hit on the last 3C because litchi is a bitch and her hitbox sucks) (3.2K+) Combo 4 5B > 5CC > 236C > 236C3D > BBL > Dash > 6C8D > j.C > j.C > j.236A (4.3K) Combo 5 5B > 5CDC > 236B > Dash > j.C > 2DJC > j.2C > BBL > 214A > 236A > 3C Copter (4.6K) Combo 6 5B > 5CDC > 236B > Dash > 6A > BBL (7D) > 214A > 236A > 3C Copter (4.6K) Combo 7 CH 6B > Tempest Dahlia (LV4) > Dash > 5C(Whiff)C > 236B > Dash > 214C > Air Combo (3.7K) Troll Fatal Combo CH5CC > Dash > Jump > 2D LV2 j.2C > BBL > 214A > Walk forwards > 3C (3Hits) > 236A > Dash > 214C > Tempest Dahlia (LV4) > 6C8D blah blah for 5.1k
kro_ Posted August 19, 2010 Posted August 19, 2010 ^ I like how every combo starts from 5b and uses 50 meter or 2+ winds. On a serious note, ending with 6c j.c dj j.c j.236a instead of 6c8d saves you 1 wind for a small sacrifice in damage. And ending with 3c into pumpkin instead of 6c saves 1 wind and gives knockdown/oki for a larger sacrifice in damage. But those are good combos when you have the meter and are much more practical than dashing momentum neutral jump crossup lvl 3 j.2c's. They also do a little more damage than just plain double lobelia combos. What/where are the standard, important-to-learn combos for Rachel? The OP was updated last in like, february or whatever, and I'm hesitant to learn combos if they might be obsolete. The combos in the OP are merely a transcript of that old combo video. Some of those setups are pretty impractical, but you can still get a good idea of what Rachel can do by looking at it - especially the things that add extra damage to her combos (like j.c 2d dj j.2c, multiple lobelias after BBL, and ending combos with 6c). I think gog (sp?) was working on a combo list/guide. If people want to contribute, try and narrow down the combo lists to the essentials (i.e. best meterless and 50 meter combos for every starter + oki and max damage finishers) and I'm sure Soniti will update the first post. The 50 meter combos posted above by Geno are a good start. See if those still work with starters like 2b, 4b, j.b, and j.2c 236a (pumpkin) 5d. If not, try to find alternatives. It seems like there's still quite a few people that are looking for combos and the MaDao combo video can be kind of intimidating.
Helion Posted August 20, 2010 Posted August 20, 2010 cant seem to land j.2C after winding jC. the timing seems to be a bit strict or maybe im just doing it wrong
Gog_ Posted August 20, 2010 Posted August 20, 2010 I already sent the list to Soniti kro_, hes just been too busy to update it.
Soniti Posted August 20, 2010 Author Posted August 20, 2010 I'm moving right now so I won't be able to for a couple days. Now excuse me while i sleep for 3 hours then drive for 7.5 hours then clean tons of stuff then move tons of furniture around then go shopping
GenoWhirl Posted August 20, 2010 Posted August 20, 2010 ^ I like how every combo starts from 5b and uses 50 meter or 2+ winds. Well sorry , And yes, I like how you can sacrifice damage for Oki since I love oki and etc. Good luck Soniti?
Sindelian Posted August 22, 2010 Posted August 22, 2010 6A > 5B > j.C > 2D LV2 j.2C ....... Curse this combo for being so hard =-/
GenoWhirl Posted August 23, 2010 Posted August 23, 2010 Let's see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ilsfZqMCgE and 5B > 5CDC > Dash > Jump over opponent > j.2C2D > BBL > 214A > 236A > Dash > 3C > 236A X2 > 6C > j.C > 214C > j.C > j.C For 4.4k, 2 winds, 50 meter and you regain one wind *sigh*. If the 236A hits them out of BBL *glares at Noel & Carl* then just use 236A first, then george
Jason D. Posted August 23, 2010 Posted August 23, 2010 Hey Geno, those first two totally could've been double Fatal combos. I thought they were going to be. And in related news, where are the multiple Fatal combos! The citizens demand it.
GenoWhirl Posted August 24, 2010 Posted August 24, 2010 I'll record the double fatal version later Although it'd help if you guys told me what you want uploaded.
Jason D. Posted August 24, 2010 Posted August 24, 2010 Although it'd help if you guys told me what you want uploaded. Sextuple Fatal combo!
tofurr Posted August 24, 2010 Posted August 24, 2010 6A > 5B > j.C > 2D LV2 j.2C ....... Curse this combo for being so hard =-/ Are you super jumping after the 5b?
Sindelian Posted August 24, 2010 Posted August 24, 2010 Are you super jumping after the 5b? Should I be? I though I read posts that said you shouldn't super jump
tofurr Posted August 24, 2010 Posted August 24, 2010 Super jumping is making it easier for me to do it. I was messing around for the last hours with combos, and I did SJC to make that combo work for me. I was working on that particular combo and the one Geno posted with the 5b, 5cdc, dash j.2cd, etc. I'm having a hard time dashing and getting the the j.2cd to hit in the latter of the two.
TD Posted August 24, 2010 Posted August 24, 2010 Just do the 2d right after the j.c, and the j.2c as late as possible... *sigh...* This is the easiest version of her lv 2 j.2c guys. lt's only hard if you don't whip that timing into your brain. SJ works also, and is much easier. lf y'all are still having trouble, j.b, j.c, 2d, j.2c also works but l believe it will do less damage.
Sindelian Posted August 24, 2010 Posted August 24, 2010 and the j.2c as late as possible... See that's the hard part, it's like just frames all over again ¬¬
GenoWhirl Posted August 24, 2010 Posted August 24, 2010 Sextuple Fatal combo! I could only get 3 fatals, although if you start with 5C it counts as 4 I guess Secret Japanese Rachel Combos also, I got lazy but you can do end the combo after the second Fatal j.2C with pumpkin and 3C Frog oki for like 4.9k and hype.
Jason D. Posted August 24, 2010 Posted August 24, 2010 I could only get 3 fatals, although if you start with 5C it counts as 4 I guess Or just start with a j.2C.
ZONG_one Posted August 24, 2010 Posted August 24, 2010 Or just start with a j.2C. IB Ragna's wake up DP. SJ 8D j.2DC? When will you ever start with FCH j.2C? lol.
GenoWhirl Posted August 27, 2010 Posted August 27, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qySeymI1YGI AHAHA I BET WE ALL KNEW THIS AND NO ONE POSTED IT (Start with 4B for 6.4K) Edit: I was testing some more, and this combo is kinda unstable on certain hitboxex (Noel, Carl, Lambda, Makoto ,Mu, Hazama & Arakune need a variation so unstable it's not worth it. But I'm testing it on everyone.) , and by unstable I mean the two poles at the end will not hit in BBL, or some parts in the combo get weird, so it's better to go for the 50 meter version. 5B > 3C9D > BBL > SJ8D > LV3 j.2C > 214A > Walk back a bit > 5CC > 236A > SJ8D > LV3 j.2C > 236A > 6C > j.C > SWORD IRIS > j.C > j.C for about 5.7k on these fuckers. If, after the 5CC > 236A you noticed the frog activated because they were too low, don't give them the satisfaction of not being hurt. Do something like 6C > jC > SWORD IRIS > SJ jC > jC > j.236A for around 5K (Sword Iris won't hit on Carl's, Noel's. Lambda's, and Mu's faggot hitbox, so just do 6C jC jC A lobelia for 4.7k). On Hazama , you need to do 5B 3C9D 3C so all hits of BBL will hit. And After the 5CC 236A you need to dash a little bit forward for all the hits of the frog to hit on Arakune & Hazama
EvilWolf Posted August 28, 2010 Posted August 28, 2010 Nice. You've been working hard Geno =) Just when I thought my Rachel was decent, I find out I'm still wayyyy behind...
tofurr Posted August 28, 2010 Posted August 28, 2010 If the frog doesn't hit after the 5CC>236A>SJC8D... does that mean I'm hitting 5CC too soon or putting George out too close to the corner?
tofurr Posted August 28, 2010 Posted August 28, 2010 I don't know if this has been posted, but I found a use for Tempest Dahlia. It's better to just go for BBL, but TD is just fun to watch at lv. 3 and 4. 5b, 5cdc, 236b, lv. 3 TD, dash, 5b, SJC, j.b, j.c, JC, j.b, j.c, 236a [About 3.1k] 5b, 5cdc, 236b, lv. 3 TD, dash, 6c8d, j.c, j.c, 236a [About 3.3k] 5b, 5cc, 236c, lv. 4 TD, dash, 5b, SJC, j.b, j.c, JC, j.b, j.c, 236a [About 3.6k]
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