Soniti Posted November 19, 2009 Posted November 19, 2009 This list has now been taken over by kro_'s combo video transcript! Thanks kro_! Transcript and descriptions for Ma Dao combo video seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jvF-4Va8CI 1) 0:00-0:04 2b 5b jc j.3db j.c 5b 6dc j.c 5b 3c 214a - 1735 dmg Starts with a low attack, pushes the opponent to the corner with 6c, ends with knockdown into frog oki. 2) 0:05-0:11 5b 2d jc j.b j.a dj j.b j.a j.b j.c 5b 5cdc 236b IAD j.b j.c j.214c land sj.c dj j.c - 1907 dmg Ghetto double overhead starter. Frog combos 3) 0:12-0:16* 5b 5cdc 214a 3c (1-hit) 236a (x2) 3c 214c 3c - 2760 dmg A frog BnB on 3c midscreen characters ending with knockdown. Requires 1 wind. 4) 0:17-0:21 5b 5cdc 214a 3cd (3 hit) 236a (x2) 3c 214c 3c A frog BnB variation for 3c corner-only characters like Ragna and Jin. 5) 0:22-0:28 5b 5cdc 214a 2b 236a (x2) 6a 214c sj j.b j.c dj j.b j.c j.236a A frog BnB variation for non-3c characters like Hazama, Lambda, and Carl. 6) 0:28-0:33 5b 5cdc 214a 2b 236a 5cc 3c - ~2200 dmg Universal corner frog combo ending in 5cc wallbounce. 7) 0:33-0:38 5b 5cdc 214a 3c 236a 5cc (236a whiff) 3c Corner frog combo ending in 5cc wallbounce on 3c characters. Creates an extra pole. 8) 0:38-0:47* 5b 5cdc 214a 3c (1 hit) 236a sj 8d 2d (lvl3) j.2c 236a dash 3c 214c 6c j.c dj j.c j.236a - 3847 dmg A damaging frog BnB for 3c characters. Requires 3 winds. 9) 0:48-0:57 5b (6dc j.c x2) 5b 5cdc 214a 3c 236a (backup a bit) 5cc (236a whiff) 3c -~3600 dmg Combo that carries opponent to corner and ends with 5cc wallbounce on 3c characters. Requires 3 winds. 236b combos 10) 0:58-1:03* 5b 5cdc 236b dash 6a 214c sj j.b j.c dj j.b j.c j.236a - 2740 dmg A universal 236b BnB. Uses 1 wind. 11) 1:03-1:07 5b 5cdc 236b dash 3d 5cc dash 3c - 1920 dmg 236b combo ending in 5cc wallbounce. Must be somewhat near corner. 12) 1:07-1:12 5b 5cdc 236b IAD j.214c 6c j.c dj j.c - ~2900 dmg 236b combo incorporating IAD sword iris to move closer while keeping up the combo. Throw combos 13) 1:12-1:16* b+c 7d dash 5b sj j.b j.a j.b j.c dj j.b j.c j.236a - 2237 dmg The old CT throw BnB. Uses 1 wind. 14) 1:17-1:21 b+c 5b 2d 5cc 5cc 214b 3c 214a - ~2200 dmg Corner throw into 5cc wallbounce that sets up pumpkin and frog oki. 15) 1:21-1:27 b+c 7d dash 5b jc j.b j.c 2d jc (lvl2) j.2c 5b sj j.b j.c dj j.b j.c j.236a - 2809 dmg Air combo extender after throw BnB. Uses 2 winds. Other 16) 1:27-1:32 6a 5b jc j.c 2d jc (lvl2) j.2c 5b sj j.b j.c dj j.b j.c j.236a - ~2500 dmg Air combo extender after 6a. Uses 1 wind. 17) 1:32-1:38 3c (delay) 9d 5b jc j.b j.c 2d jc (lvl2) j.2c 5b sj j.b j.c dj j.b j.c j.236a - ~2100 dmg Air combo extender after 3c. Uses 2 winds. 18) 1:38-1:44 3c (delay) 8d 5cc 236b dash 214c dash j.b j.c dj j.b j.c j.236a - ~2000 dmg Alternative combo from 3c starter. Uses only 1 wind. 50% heat combos 19) 1:45-1:55* 5b 5cdc 214a 3c (1 hit) 236a (x2) 6c j.c 1d land 632146c 236a (x2) dash 3c 214c 6c j.c jc j.c j.236a - 4350 dmg A frog to BBL BnB on 3c characters. Requires 2 winds. 20) 1:56-2:06 5b 5cdc 214a 2b 236a (x2) 6c j.c 1d land 632146c 236a (x2) dash 3c 214c 6c j.c jc j.c - 4270 dmg Same as above for non-3c characters. Just use 2b otg. 21) 2:08-2:22 5b 5cdc 214a (walk 1 step) 5b 236a (frog hits) dash 6c j.c land 632146c 214a 5cc (whiff 1st hit) dash 5b (frog hits) sjc 8d 2d (lvl3) j.2c 5cc (whiff 1st hit) 214a - 3669 dmg An advanced corner only frog combo into BBL and lvl3 j.2c. Makes use of 5c whiff c wallbounce to refrog the opponent after BBL and lvl3 j.2c. Requires 3 winds but regens 2 winds during the combo. 22) 2:23-2:32* 5b 5cdc 236b dash 6a32147d6c (dash under opponent) sj 8d (lvl3) j.2c 236a dash 3c 214c 6c j.c dj j.c j.236a - 4761 dmg An advanced midscreen 236b combo into BBL and lvl3 j.2c. Uses 6a and 7d before BBL to increase opponent's height. Rachel then dashes under the opponent and uses the momentum to catch the opponent falling from BBL with lvl3 j.2c using just 1 wind. Requires 3 winds. More throw combo setups 23) 2:32-2:40 b+c 6d IAD 6d j.a j.c 1d 5cc 5cc 214b 3c 214a - ~2300 dmg A midscreen throw combo into 5cc wallbounce that sets up pumpkin and frog oki. Uses 3 winds. 24) 2:40-2:45 b+c 9d dash 5cc 5cc 214b 3c 214a - ~1900 dmg A somewhat near corner throw combo into 5cc wallbounce that sets up pumpkin and frog oki. Uses 1 wind. More 50% heat combos 25) 2:46-2:57 5b 5cdc 214a dash 6c (frog hits) j.236c land 6c j.c land 632146c sj 8d (lvl3) j.2c 5cc (whiff 1st hit) 3c 214a - ~3900 dmg An advanced corner only frog combo into BBL and lvl3 j.2c that uses only 2 winds and regens 1 during the combo. 26) 2:57-3:08 5b 3c (delay) 9d 5b jc j.b j.c 2d jc (lvl2) j.2c dash 6a 632146c (dash under opponent) sj 8d (lvl3) j.2c 236a dash 3c 214c 6c j.c dj j.c j.236a - 4587 dmg 3c air combo extender into BBL and lvl3 j.2c. A combination of combos 17 and 22. Uses 3 winds. 27) 3:08-3:17 6a 5b jc j.c 2d jc (lvl2) j.2c dash 6a 632146c (dash under opponent) sj 8d (lvl3) j.2c 236a dash 3c 214c 6c j.c dj j.c j.236a - ~4000 dmg 6a air combo extender into BBL and lvl3 j.2c. A combination of combos 16 and 22. Uses 2 winds. 28) 3:18-3:30 b+c 7d dash 5b jc j.c 2d jc (lvl2) j.2c dash 6a 632146c (dash under opponent) sj 8d (lvl3) j.2c 236a dash 3c 214c 6c j.c dj j.c j.236a - 4377 dmg Throw air combo extender into BBL and lvl3 j.2c. A combination of combos 15 and 22. Uses 3 winds. 29) 3:31-3:39 6a 5b jc j.b j.[c] j.c dj j.c 632146c (dash under opponent) 236a dash 3c 214c 6c j.c dj j.c j.236a - ~2500 dmg Air combo into air BBL. Mainly demonstrates that j.c > hold c > j.c and air BBL will combo after j.c. 30) 3:40-3:48 2c CH 1d 6a 632146c (dash under opponent) sj 8d (lvl3) j.2c 236a dash 3c 214c 6c j.c dj j.c j.236a - ~4100 dmg Chair counterhit combo into BBL and lvl3 j.2c. Similar to combo 22. Uses 2 winds. 31) 3:49-4:00* 5b 5cdc 214a 3c (1 hit) 236a sj 8d 2d (lvl3) j.2c 236a dash 6a32147d6c 236a (x2) 3c 214c 6c j.c dj j.c - 4869 dmg A damaging frog BnB into BBL for 3c characters. Requires 4 winds. 32) 4:01-4:11 air b+c 2d 5b jc j.b j.c 2d jc (lvl2) j.2c dash 6a 632146c (dash under opponent) sj 8d (lvl3) j.2c 236a dash 3c 214c 6c j.c dj j.c j.236a - 4200 dmg Airthrow combo into BBL and lvl3 j.2c. Similar to combo 22. Uses 3 winds. 33) 4:11-4:22 b+c 6d IAD j.b j.c 632146c (dash under opponent) sj 8d (lvl3) j.2c 236a dash 3c 214c 6c j.c dj j.c j.236a - 3820 dmg Alternative throw combo into BBL and lvl3 j.2c. Similar to combo 22. Uses 2 winds. 34) 4:23-4:34 b+c 5b 2d 5cc 6c j.c land 632146c sj 8d (lvl3) j.2c 5cc (whiff 1st hit) 3c 214a - 3450 dmg Corner throw combo into BBL and lvl3 j.2c. A combination of combos 14 and 25. Uses 2 winds. Section2: I have the 11-31 Arcadia issue, so I'll translate the Rachel combos from it: 1. 5b 5cdc 236b dash 6a BBL 236a(whiff) dash 3c (1 hit) 214c 5b JC j.b j.c JC j.b j.c j.236a 4008 dmg!? They have to be close for this one. I doubt it works on the whole cast -- you need to be able to dash far enough to 6a them and hit with both melee and pole BBL. 2. [corner?] 2b 5b 5cdc 214a dash? 2b 236a (frog hits) dash 5cc 3c (3 hits) 214c 3c (set out george) 2311 damage
Tari Posted November 23, 2009 Posted November 23, 2009 ... On 3c frog characters: 5b 5cdc 214a sj back j.3d j.2c land 214c air combo Around 3100 damage ... Do you know if the 214c is for cancelling the j.2c? Bit confused as to its purpose there, and that's the only thing that comes to mind.
Soniti Posted November 23, 2009 Author Posted November 23, 2009 You can only special cancel j.2c. That's what it's for... so you can continue the combo.
Tari Posted November 23, 2009 Posted November 23, 2009 You can only special cancel j.2c. That's what it's for... so you can continue the combo. Yeah, I didn't know if the 214c was actually worth cancelling j.2c with, but I suppose it's faster than just bouncing off the floor. Thanks for clarifying, though. Edit: Ah, 236a makes it make much more sense.
Soniti Posted November 23, 2009 Author Posted November 23, 2009 I just realized why you were confused - I accidentally left the 236a out of that combo.
wuku Posted November 23, 2009 Posted November 23, 2009 (2b) 5b 5cdc 236b iad j.b j.c j.214c (that's air iris) land sj j.[c] j.c j.236 Works on all characters except Tsubaki. Delay the 236b on Tager. That may not work for lambda also unless you're far enough to hit 236b.
Soniti Posted November 23, 2009 Author Posted November 23, 2009 By the way, you can combo a 6b counterhit by using a wind to close the range then 5b.
ArkiveZero Posted November 24, 2009 Posted November 24, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTTxGhg8gRo#t=1m14s 5B 5CDC 236B dash 6A 632146C 236A 3C (2 hit) 214C 3C 214A oki
Tari Posted November 24, 2009 Posted November 24, 2009 From the changes thread: Rachel: ◇Wind 1, mid screen combo 5B→5CC→B lobelia→JBJC→air iris→land→super jump JC→JC→A lobelia for about 2.5k 5B→5CC→(delay)B lobelia→dash 6A→iris→JB→JC→JB→JC→A lobelia for about 2.4k, but has more wind recovery 5B→5CC→frog→3C→A lobelia→6C→JC→air iris→land→JC→JC→A lobelia for 3k+, 2B for 2.1k 5B→5CC→frog→3C→B lobelia→5CC→iris Low firepower, mainly for wind recovery ◇wind 2, mid screen combo 5B→5CC→super jump(direction 9) J2CD→aerial for 2.8k. Level2 j2c allows for aerial ◇wind 3, mid screen combo 5B→5CC→frog→3C→super jump(direction 8)D→J2CD→(delay)A lobelia→5B→baden lily→frog→3C for 4.7k with level 3 j2c ◇Wind 1, corner combo 5B→5CC→frog→3C/5B→A lobelia→(5CC)X2~3→3C→frog wind recovery combo ◇Wind *, corner combo 2B→5B→5CC→frog→5B→JA→C lobelia→6A→baden lily→6C→JC→3C→frog→super jump (direction8)D→J2CD~ ◇Others J3CD→A lobelia→RC→5B~ 50% meter mixup option J3CD→A lobelia→2A hazama and tsubaki limited 6B(Counter)→6D5B To make up for the lack of stun time by reducing distance between target after hit confirm. In particular, these have caught my attention: 5B→5CC→frog→3C→A lobelia→6C→JC→air iris→land→JC→JC→A lobelia for 3k+, 2B for 2.1k It looks like this one involves an OTG frog combo? Also nice to see some damage above 3k (though I honestly don't tend to land 5b as a first hit, so I'd get far lower damage from prorating). 2B→5B→5CC→frog→5B→JA→C lobelia→6A→baden lily→6C→JC→3C→frog→super jump (direction8)D→J2CD ...how does this one work? The first bit makes some amount of sense (weird way to knock them into the frog, but if it works, it works~), but the second part is confusing. I see no way for '6C→JC→3C→frog' to all fit within a single BBL. I'm assuming it means that there's a frog out before the 6c or something, and that you 3c the opponent back into him for the level 3 j.2c. If the first 'frog' (214a) is the summon for the second 'frog' (frog hits), then that's a really interesting combo.
ryokoalways Posted November 24, 2009 Posted November 24, 2009 You'll have to find someone to try the combos out. I don't know the new rachel well enough to answer those questions. They just said the combos work.
kro_ Posted November 24, 2009 Posted November 24, 2009 ◇Wind 1, corner combo 5B→5CC→frog→3C/5B→A lobelia→(5CC)X2~3→3C→frog wind recovery combo This combo sounds like it takes forever. Just what Rachel needs to regen wind.
Xtra_Zero Posted November 24, 2009 Posted November 24, 2009 Wait what? I thought wind recovery stopped while she was attacking?
Tari Posted November 24, 2009 Posted November 24, 2009 It's nice to know I was wrong about the CH thing for 5cc reps. Hadn't noticed it repeated (3 times!? wow) in that combo earlier. You'll have to find someone to try the combos out. I don't know the new rachel well enough to answer those questions. They just said the combos work. Ah, well, thanks for trying.
choysauce Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 i think (5b, 6cdc)x2 combos are still good, i tried it out last night and im sure i didn't blackbeat (unless i'm just totally blind). i thought it was out beforehand because nobody did them in the recent vids and i tried being creative with the new wallbounce 5cc, you can 5b, 5cdc, 214b, run up, 5b, 2d, 5cc, 236b, 214c it does close to 2k and uses 2 winds, not a very worthwhile combo lol but it works i think you can vary it up with a delayed 5d, dash 5cc, might be better to get pumpkin closer
Tari Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 i think (5b, 6cdc)x2 combos are still good, i tried it out last night and im sure i didn't blackbeat (unless i'm just totally blind). i thought it was out beforehand because nobody did them in the recent vids and i tried being creative with the new wallbounce 5cc, you can 5b, 5cdc, 214b, run up, 5b, 2d, 5cc, 236b, 214c it does close to 2k and uses 2 winds, not a very worthwhile combo lol but it works i think you can vary it up with a delayed 5d, dash 5cc, might be better to get pumpkin closer I've actually never seen anyone do (5b 6cdc)x2 before in CT. Not sure if I'm misunderstanding how that works, though. Edit: Oh, I've just never seen it notated like that before. Took me a moment to realize the second c was a j.c. I remember reading that the timing for that was tight in one of the loketests. More stuff I got from poking blade too much~: As it turns out, 5b 5cdc 214b 6dc will combo and will not lift the opponent from the floor. This would imply that 5cdc 214b 6d5b combos are still in, as well, just with very small windows.
Kuuhaku Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 If possible, mess with the 5CC wall bounce. I'm still trying to figure out if it's going to be something really major for Rachel or if it's just not really enough to help.
choysauce Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 i think it'd be worthwhile to mess around with the delayed midair 2d j2c's like in the vamos vid, i think it'd be good for easy frog setups. i tried something like that last night, but i think i put in too many hits for the 2d j2c to combo (i tried doin the old, j.b, j.a, j.b, j.c, jc j2c combo). but it worked out as a reset for me.
Tari Posted December 12, 2009 Posted December 12, 2009 From a video (and also a working combo in CT): 6a 5b JC j.b j.c2d JC j.2c (registers as a level 3 hit) land, 66a32146c 236a 3c 214c 3c 214a 'oki'. Timing window for 6a after the j.2c is somewhat small. If anyone can manage that combo in CS and see how the damage is, that'd be nice. The easier version of this is replacing 'JC j.2c' with 'JC j.c', at the cost of a small amount of damage. Also worth wondering about is if you can do 236a twice in the new game or something. Not really sure they get caught in BBL high up enough for it, though. edit: Possible in CT to do 66a32146c 236a 214a 3c, so I'd assume that's possible in CS, too (for less damage), or 236a x2 is possible (if 236a is faster at all, then this may work).
Spirit Juice Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 3k combo for one wind. No specific starter specified. Mid-screen frog combo characters only. 5CC (with wind) 214A run up 3C (1 hit) 236A 6C j.C 214C sj.C JC dsj.C j.236A
Shuyin Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 From a video (and also a working combo in CT): 6a 5b JC j.b j.c2d JC j.2c (registers as a level 3 hit) land, 66a32146c 236a 3c 214c 3c 214a 'oki'. This sounds super sexy......please tell me it does over 4k:(
Spirit Juice Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 This is...good right? Good, but as we all know, landing a 5B is kind of hard with her.
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