Prototype909 Posted December 30, 2009 Posted December 30, 2009 So, besides air throwing (Which is lolbreakable), what can you do about it? From what I see you pretty much get a free pass to avoid any high/low mixup and don't have to worry about unblockables either. Sans some things like Devoured By Darkness, Atomic Collider, etc.
4r5 Posted December 30, 2009 Posted December 30, 2009 Wait for ArcSys to make moves faster, or make jumps slower, or make throws harder to break. till then, jump with em
Kain Posted December 30, 2009 Posted December 30, 2009 A: Make them waste their barrier while they hold up-back. B: Annoy them by spamming Barrier jump while they spam Barrier jump. C: Barrier Burst to destroy their barrier (not recommended for obvious reasons) D: Corner them so that you're free to do whatever you want to make them waste Barrier E: Deal with it. F: None of the above.
Prototype909 Posted December 30, 2009 Author Posted December 30, 2009 I think the primary problem is how floaty and quick jumps are, falling at the very least should be faster.
smooshman Posted January 1, 2010 Posted January 1, 2010 I've never considered barrier jumping as being annoying... well besides that I find all blocking annoying... yeah I'm that noobish... though if I had to guess I would say just go for air grab.
Edge Reaper Posted January 1, 2010 Posted January 1, 2010 I think the primary problem is how floaty and quick jumps are, falling at the very least should be faster. Consider the fact that the clothing for most of the characters can double as parachutes.
Xtra_Zero Posted January 1, 2010 Posted January 1, 2010 Jumps are already balls slow in this game. Hitting people out of spamming jump+FD isn't very hard as long as they aren't Arakune. If you want to point fingers though, blame the hour long startup on every damn move in the game.
Desperado Posted January 1, 2010 Posted January 1, 2010 The best way I handle it is by anticipating it. People are getting really smart nowadays and the old deadspike to keep them on the ground and things of that nature aren't as effective as they used to be. But with Ragna, after getting them used to the mix-ups and timing when they'd jump away and at the sight of what attack, I started running underneath them for a baby cross-up. This works only once, of course, because then they start attacking while they're jumping away - but at least that opens it up for a short dash to 6a for Ragna, or an ID (I dont know if GH would work in that situation).
Spirit Juice Posted January 1, 2010 Posted January 1, 2010 The only thing you can really do is jump up and air throw them if you can. It also depends on the situation (such as where you are vs where they are on the screen). Most people won't be able to throw break psychic air throws.
smooshman Posted January 1, 2010 Posted January 1, 2010 actually a lot of times when I try to jump barrier block an air attack I wind up grabbing the enemy which is always funny.
Xill Posted January 5, 2010 Posted January 5, 2010 Do something jump cancel able and go with them if you want a block string. If not, grab. They will run out sooner or later. Usually sooner.
lxMetalSonicxl Posted February 20, 2010 Posted February 20, 2010 Just chase them down with j.a or throw them and call them a scrub or say "Can't handle the pressure dawg?". Works every time.
qwerty Posted February 20, 2010 Posted February 20, 2010 rhythmically tap 7 while holding A+B+C congrats
SuperKawaiiDesu Posted February 20, 2010 Posted February 20, 2010 frame trap them to rape them when they try to jump :D
Dacidbro Posted February 20, 2010 Posted February 20, 2010 Just blockstring them into a low This problem is a non problem, just make them scared of jumping
qwerty Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 it's a big problem, jump startup is faster than jabs. once they get +4 or higher (probably from ib), its a free jump out of whatever it is you're doing.
Manta Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 Does barrier guage get consumed faster in the air? I ask because in GG, air FDs chewed up your tension very rapidly in comparison to ground FDs
Sunnyday Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 I barrier jump like all the time just to get my Tager close towards my targets next towards all the other attacks i use (especially towards Hazama players that for some reason have a very hard time beating my Barrier jump). The point however is is that barrier jumping is kinda predictable and that you can beat the barrier jump by doing a air grab (although that can be broken) and/or 623 C in the case of Tager or simply doing a quick poke when they are about to attack. Also putting the barrier on for too long does have it's risks. @ Manta. I'm not sure, i haven't try it out yet.
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