GG:AC Official Tier List Thread

[B.L. Pancho]

Er. First off, you make it sound as though it's random whether her lifebar gets eaten, which it definitely isn't.

Secondly, why would losing one match be any different than losing two matches in terms of the character? Is there some effect independent matches have on each other that I wasn't previously aware of?

I sort of get what you're trying to say, but I don't think it's really the case.

What he is saying is that, because of the way she's designed the ABA PLAYER needs more time to overcome opposing players strategies, you have to think about the long game with her as opposed to the short game which she cannot do if it's just one game...

This especially rings true because this type of situation is one that many players of other fighters recognize in other characters, usually when the character is ultimately good but has to gamble a lot very often to make her mechanic work, characters like this benefit from a long game where the player can bring out an extended mind game so to speak.

[sogos]

Accent Core Plus needs an EX Character Tier list

what

no it doesn't

[4r5]

how do we go about doing this?

Start running tournaments.

[YanisDLooper]

I don't have AC+ but I could start trying AC with my friends. I'm not the best player but I can see what kind of weaknesses and strengths each one has.

[Digital Watches]

...if only for something fun to do till the next game comes out.

I dunno, I think there are a lot of things to "do" until the next game comes out that are a lot more interesting.

And pancho, I still disagree, because a long game has the same benefit for both players (or can, depending on how good the player is at that sort of thing). You say the ABA player needs time to adapt to the opponent's strategies, but you make it out to seem like a totally reactive game on the part of the ABA player. This would make a lot more sense if the other person were a CPU, but they have the opportunity to learn and adapt as well. I just don't think the argument holds water.

[YanisDLooper]

You have to understand though...AC+ EX is vastly different from AC EX.

For example Order Sol now has a D.I. Volcanic Viper Forcebreak, as well as D.I. Gunflame Forcebreak, and Fafnir Forcebreak can be Gatlinged into. AC doesn't have those changes, only AC+.

Well crap that is a lot of changes.

I guess someone else will have to do that then.

Those changes do sound awesome though. Gatling into a FB Fanfir. Not just special canceled but actually gatlinged into.

Regardless, isn't this thread about AC tiers? We don't yet have a lot of stuff on AC+ yet except for story. I realize that we need to look ahead at the next GG, but for now . . . I don't know.

Perhaps we can start with an AC EX tier list and then move up into AC+ EX?

[sweetvids]

AC+ hasn't made any significant changes to tourney legal characters so there's no need for updated info. As for EX, it's quite pointless, but all you need to know is EX Testament. :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck:

[Digital Watches]

You have to understand though...AC+ EX is vastly different from AC EX.

For example Order Sol now has a D.I. Volcanic Viper Forcebreak, as well as D.I. Gunflame Forcebreak, and Fafnir Forcebreak can be Gatlinged into. AC doesn't have those changes, only AC+.

Yeah... but who cares?

[Silmerion]

Yeah... but who cares?

...>.> <.<

...*Raises hand*

[Digital Watches]

Hm... okay. Good enough for me. Blade, since this project is clearly serious business, I vote you devote all your time and energy to it until it gets sorted out. As such, the next time you post, it should be with a definitive EX tier list. I'm aware that this will probably take a long time, so out of the kindness of my heart, you are allowed, during this time, to eat, sleep, and use the restroom. I would say conjugal visits are allowed as well, but I'm not sure such a provision is necessary.

[Teyah]

I nominate Digital Watches to fly down to Blade's house to help him tier EX characters for competitive play.

[Mechanica]

I'm with alex on the 'who cares' notion...

[iora]

i finished it guys! GOD TIER: S: A: B: C: D: E: Entire cast, for not being tourney-legal. Props to HOS for having a sweet fafnir, and props to anyone who isn't eddie for wearing clothes that DON'T change color for no reason.

[Hellmonkey]

I nominate Digital Watches to fly down to Blade's house to help him tier EX characters for competitive play.

Seconded, in fact I am willing to donate $2 to the cause.

[Hatred Edge]

Sorry but one vote isn't gonna cut it, and since when am I the only one allowed to work on this?? :8/:

On top of that I work on translations too, bud, I'll do my part but you gotta do yours too. It'd help if more people "tried" to be interested.

Is it so wrong that it's not worth trying? You don't know something is good unless you try it.

Besides, there's no such thing as a 1-Player tournament.

While you're at it Blade, can you do a EX tier list for XX, #R, and XX/? Thanks.

[HolyOrderChipp]

I'm with Blade on the EX tiers issue; I think that a tier list that includes EX characters would be very interesting. The problem is that you can't get people to play with them. They say "They're banned/unbalanced/STFU noob!". Problem is, they're banned because their balance is unknown, and of course the Arcade Standard. I would claim that the "They're not balanced/we don't know if they're balanced" argument is silly, because we simply don't know, and that's why we ought to test them. We never were assured that the regular roster had any degree of balance, were we? People would claim they will unbalance the game, but I've a solution. Ban any better than Eddie. There. done. Or, you can have some other standard, and ban if the character would otherwise be banned, IE, more dominant than #R Eddie. Of course, Kliff and Justice should be included in this research.

[Digital Watches]

Seconded, in fact I am willing to donate $2 to the cause.

Woo!

[iora]

shit would be fun if EX mode was allowed in console tourneys i got a feeling the ALWAYS MOROHA MODE ABA would be at least A tier lol but ya, thats the same argument behind the shadow-only tournament everyone gets full tension, so its all fair game.... sounds fun but people dont like the non-arcade stuffs but just so you know shadow is the fun, RC spams and reckless overdrives, RC'd for safety, into DAA's ALL DAY LONG it turns this game on its head, and its amazingly fun ^_^

[Hellmonkey]

EX characters aren't made to be balanced in any way. Why would anyone play them seriously.

[Spirit Juice]

EX characters aren't made to be balanced in any way. Why would anyone play them seriously.

Please. You're just scared to fight my EX Sol with your EX Baiken.

[Hellmonkey]

[sweetvids]

No way. EX Baiken with auto Ouran and Razr Pinwheel > EX Sol :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck:

[axel]

While you're at it, make a tier list for Shadow and Gold characters as well. It'll be best to include a 100-word essay for each character explaining his or her position in the tier list.

[YanisDLooper]

While you're at it, make a tier list for Shadow and Gold characters as well. It'll be best to include a 100-word essay for each character explaining his or her position in the tier list.

Shadow would be hard to accurately tier because of the craziness of being able to roman cancel anything.

Let me repeat that: able to roman cancel ANYTHING!!!!!

The characters that have loops that depend upon frcs would be able keep loops going longer (Baiken comes to mind for me here, I don't know who else) and if the player is good enough they would be able to rc and frc anything into infinite combos and, again if their good enough, be able to avoid burst with their cancels.

Adding infinite tension into the mix just makes it crazy.

EDIT:

Crazy fun, but still crazy.

[Spirit Juice]

Gold character tiers: SSS: Sol SS: Johnny and then everyone else