Zidane Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 yo zizi why is Jin haz 4-6? that would make sense if it weren't for the fact that Ragna is only advantaged 5.5-4.5. Cause HAzama stops Jin everywhere. Can't come in from the air, can't come in from the ground. Jin has to guess his way in and then stay in with average mixup and damage. I actually quoted the Hakumen question but DL is gay so i'll just say 1) Hazama can escape almost anything all the time even without Hotenjin. It's called IB chain away 2) Hazmaa has to play smarter against Hakumen cause D and slicing chains but so what? Why does actually having to think in a match mean it's somewhat bad for one side? They both have superior zoning, damage and life. When they both get in it's scary. It's not worse for either side.
huey253 Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 wut, Ragna and Bang not having an advantage on Hakumen? also Bang vs lambda/jin is probably worse than 6/4, wow carl totally mid tier, below ragna and taokaka and lambda.
bbq sauce Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 actually everyone hated the old matchup chart.... and we hate this one... we're kinda unpleaseable that way. Here is a matchu up chart that will please most people here. Character your little brother plays 7-3 Characters your less skilled friends play 6-4 Characters you are semi experienced with at your respective level of play 5-5 Characters your more skilled friends play 4-6 Characters you have little experience with/don't understand at higher levels of play - 3-7 Being as that's all 70% of people here base their opinions for match ups on anymore, anyway, we should just leave at that.
Jourdal Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 It isn't already? Smoosh entering the discussion ups the level from funny to hilarious.
smooshman Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 Smoosh entering the discussion ups the level from funny to hilarious. I do it all for you jourdal baby
Lord Knight Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 Hey, Zidane, question. Why is Hazama V Hakumen even? I always thought the matchup was slightly in Hakumen's favour. What with Hazama bad at escaping corners without Jayaku, Hakumen's counters making Hazama unable to be aggressive and his ability to cut through chains, which can seriously reduce Hazama's zoning capabilities. Also, who did the Arakune matchups? Some are a bit strange. Litchi - 4.5, I'd say 4.0. Litchi can destory Arakune with her staff. And Arakune's lack of DP makes getting out the corners difficult. But I could live with 4.5. Lambda - 4.5, No way. Not even 4. This matchup is easily 6.5 in her favour. Ragna - 5.5, meh, I would think evens. Belial Edge makes it hard to zone and his corner pressure, especially with gauntlet hades is hard to deal with. Jin - 4, I seriously cannot believe that someone actually thinks that Arakune has a hard time with Jins than Lambda. This is 4.5 or 5. Makoto - 5.5, I'd argue 6. But 5.5 is livible. Rachel - 6, ugh...Rachel's zoning can really mess Ara up and wind is super effective against him. 5.5. Most Rachel's I know refer Ara as one of her easier matchups. It's just that Lambda. If it wasn't for that, I'd pretty much agree with that chart with a .5 margin of error. Arakune vs Litchi, Arakune always has the curse factor. This match would be even, but she has good tools to deal with his precurse game. Also Bang/Litchi is def 5.5 for Bang.
huey253 Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 Arakune vs Litchi, Arakune always has the curse factor. This match would be even, but she has good tools to deal with his precurse game. Also Bang/Litchi is def 5.5 for Bang. yay for dnails and above average hp.
Dacidbro Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 You're better than that, Lord Knight. Litchi has no bad matchups, period.
huey253 Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 it does feel like bang has a small advantage though. but, if i were to call bang v litchi 5.5 in bang's favor, then tao vs bang is totally even.
Lord Knight Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 Bang players going in! I talked with Ken a bit, he sort of convinced me. I thought it was even, but thinking about what they can do against each other, I'd have to give the slight advantage to Bang. Also, having a 4.5 is definitely not what I'd call a "bad matchup".
bbq sauce Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 Yo, this is easily the most trollable thread in America, get at it.
A.X.I.S. Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 LOL tager vs haku on chart. I'm gonna laugh this all the way home.
huey253 Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 to be fair, litchi's dmg output is much higher than bang's, and bang doesn't have a meterless invincible reversal to help get him out of litchi bullshit. but bang's 5B, omg
Dacidbro Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 5B doesn't even work against Litchi's jB, regardless of timing. You will never even trade. This matchup is not at all Bang's favor. It's even. If it were anything, it's Litchi's favor. The only thing she doesn't have in this matchup is a command grab, which is big, but not big enough.
huey253 Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 wut, why the hell would i try anti air 5B againist litchi, i don't even anti air 5B againist anybody, blocking is better.
Lord Knight Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 Dacid, he's talking about Litchi's 5B[m] losing to Bang's 5B. That really really hurts already. I'm not really in the mood to make a long post about the matchup, but this is my opinion on it right now.
seyu Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 god its depressing reading through this thread. not because people jsut talk shit but cause noone would ever think of admitting he/shes wrong. dont think this is funny anymore
Mr.Biscuits Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 Who did the Arakune matchup part? Copperdabbit? LMAO.
huey253 Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 isn't Arakune vs lambda pretty bad for arakune?
severin Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 It's awful. Matchup in a nutshell: Lambda sits at 3/4 screen distance from Arakune. Arakune can't really do anything thanks to 6D. Every other aspect of this matchup is an extension of this.
Kristoph Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 matchup charts are funny like how lambda is significantly worse than jin against the top 6 characters in the game but gets to be 5 spots "higher" as a character
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