Stan McJeeves Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 As Riku said, I really don't care if Tao was bottom tier (heck, if she was, I could brag to my friends when I win as her!), but what I do care about is the fact that Tao has lost the things I chose her for. I picked Tao out of the bunch because she was lightning fast, for having an awesome mix up, and for those crazy air combos that make my friends say "lolwut, when's the combo over?". Arc basically took all of that away, and it kinda makes me sad at the fact that Tao has lost her charm. But as Soujiro said, we always need to have some sort of hope. It would be a dark day if Arc left us with nothing, but I really don't think they're that cruel. I'm pretty confident we'll get at least a few nice gifts on the final release (if we don't, I'd lose a lot of hope and trust in Arc, bleh). And as I said about five times before, and pretty much everyone else in here has said, all we can really do now is pray that we are given some mercy, and that we get buffed/remove a lot of these nerfs.
Lord Knight Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 As Riku said, I really don't care if Tao was bottom tier (heck, if she was, I could brag to my friends when I win as her!), but what I do care about is the fact that Tao has lost the things I chose her for. I picked Tao out of the bunch because she was lightning fast, for having an awesome mix up, and for those crazy air combos that make my friends say "lolwut, when's the combo over?". Arc basically took all of that away, and it kinda makes me sad at the fact that Tao has lost her charm. But as Soujiro said, we always need to have some sort of hope. It would be a dark day if Arc left us with nothing, but I really don't think they're that cruel. I'm pretty confident we'll get at least a few nice gifts on the final release (if we don't, I'd lose a lot of hope and trust in Arc, bleh). And as I said about five times before, and pretty much everyone else in here has said, all we can really do now is pray that we are given some mercy, and that we get buffed/remove a lot of these nerfs. Isn't that what people said last time? Then she ended up being S tier. . .
kairless Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 The new IB nerf sounds like it will hurt tao more than helping her :/
Ronove Posted November 19, 2010 Author Posted November 19, 2010 Isn't that what people said last time? Then she ended up being S tier. . . Hehe, yep we can't really tell until them japanese get their hands on Tao Mk.III and begin dissecting her and finding out new setups. But still some of these nerfs look a tad bit too much. One thing people here are forgetting is that she's getting back her old CT cat2. If ArcSys gave it back then it can only mean that there'll be ways for her to end her combos with it and get her precious knockdown back (which means a lot for Tao, especially since they're toning down her overall damage). And despite all this drama I still can't wait to try new Tao and see how she plays, too bad the damn Nesica system rules out non-japanese arcades (else I would have been able to play this in January :[ )
Itzwiitard Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 I would like to say i kno we are relyin on the japs to find new stuff, but jus lookin from the changes now i dont think there will be new things what the jap could figure out, she had 4 main starts, 6a not much damage, or combo that well, 6c due to slidedown on wall unless a drive can hit its gonna be corner only, 3c well we got nothin off that unless they reduce the recovery time to make dash 5b possible on every chara, then 236c which is slow as hell, easy to see coming n due to same drive damage wont work that well, i think she will be more noel in ct, she could only drive combo for damage, or a risky 3c for haida, unless they were crouching, all im sayin is we need our opps in the air to combo only 6a and 3c could do that, unless we get some cool ground ccombos which is doubtful cos its not her game style, p's its early sorry if i didnt make much sense
lurch_E_bean Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 One thing people here are forgetting is that she's getting back her old CT cat2. If ArcSys gave it back then it can only mean that there'll be ways for her to end her combos with it and get her precious knockdown back (which means a lot for Tao, especially since they're toning down her overall damage). Not really, she's getting a j.b that looks like the old Cat2. We have no idea if it can end combos like the old Cat2. We have no idea if we have combos period. I don't understand why they keep nerfing Tao. They want her to be less runaway and more offensive, so they take away all her offensive abilities... GOOD WORK!
Stan McJeeves Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 (edited) Not really, she's getting a j.b that looks like the old Cat2. We have no idea if it can end combos like the old Cat2. We have no idea if we have combos period. I believe I recall seeing in Loketest 2/3 (not too sure) that some of the players commented that the new j.b was good for ending combos like this: 9D~9 > 3D~3 > new j.B xN > Cat2 x5. I'm not entirely sure if it still works now, due to Loketest 4/5 probably screwed that up too. EDIT: I'm guessing you guys have already seen it, but the CSII opening is now out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9c19-lXO1A&feature=recentu Seeing that new opening made me feel a bit better about these changes. At least we know that Gonzo isn't making a lousy opening for CSII. Edited November 19, 2010 by Stan McJeeves
soujiro seta Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 LMAO in the new opening tao couldn't handle arakune because of her nerfs hahahaha. I'm just joking guys, please don't crucify me.
Stomoman Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 It's making me really curious as to what they're going to do for her challenge combos. Maybe when Arc starts working on that, they will realize they goof'd and get it together.
Stan McJeeves Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 It's making me really curious as to what they're going to do for her challenge combos. Maybe when Arc starts working on that, they will realize they goof'd and get it together. I was thinking about that too. Even though it looks like Tao has no combos, there has to be some sort of combo for the challenge mode. I seriously doubt the challenge 10 would be a low damage combo too.
CakeWasBannedd Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 you guys seriously think they're going to let a character in the game that doesn't have 10 combos? plz reconsider your lives
KM Riku Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 Half of her challenge combos are the same combos with different starter. Tao was always like this, we just need a useful starter. They are saying they found a new 3C combo, but nobody posted about it yet. BTW Ronove, there's not any other impressions about Tao in those japanese forums? Even though the last impressions were very heavy, they were all made by a Carl player...it would be good to see the opnion from the Tao japanese players.
Hurricane Rev Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 I was LOOL @ how Taokaka got pushed back so easily. But I was slightly sad when I saw that part. Hopefully, she will be better in the finish version
Stan McJeeves Posted November 20, 2010 Posted November 20, 2010 I was just recently lurking around on Youtube, and I noticed there's quite a few videos from the Loketests. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any that had Tao in them (there was one where I could hear Tao in the background). Does anyone have some links to Tao Loketest vids?
KM Riku Posted November 21, 2010 Posted November 21, 2010 According to ukyo_rulz, we still have our AB2 combo in coner after all...but Tao received another nerf that's not translated yet.
Itzwiitard Posted November 21, 2010 Posted November 21, 2010 Well thats good to hear bout ab2 combos, but damn another nerf, whats it this time, cant use drive, or throw dont work, or if u combo the game jus screws u over and kills off tao, cant be far off
KM Riku Posted November 21, 2010 Posted November 21, 2010 Tao: - 挑発の補正40％くらいまで減少。ネタ技化 - Her taunt proration decreased to 40%. (my translation may be wrong) Okay, so we don't even have 1 taunt combos anymore...it's kinda ironic to see that Bang and Litchi are still pretty good when Tao got nerfed this bad.
Stomoman Posted November 21, 2010 Posted November 21, 2010 (edited) Tao: - 挑発の補正40％くらいまで減少。ネタ技化 - Her taunt proration decreased to 40%. (my translation may be wrong) STOP DOING THINGS They should just replace Almost Becoming 2 with an install that makes her cs1 Tao. Like Bang's FRKZ, it should last the rest of the round and have it's own theme music. Edited November 21, 2010 by Stomoman
GKHiryu Posted November 21, 2010 Posted November 21, 2010 honestly, If 40% proration to taunt was the only thing they changed for Tao I'd be very glad.
Stan McJeeves Posted November 21, 2010 Posted November 21, 2010 STOP DOING THINGS They should just replace Almost Becoming 2 with an install that makes her cs1 Tao. Like Bang's FRKZ, it should last the rest of the round and have it's own theme music. That's actually a pretty cool idea, but how would it work? It would be a bit overpowered if it didn't have something like Bang's seals. Perhaps if you hit the opponent with a certain attack, or a taunt, it would add to a counter, and it would work the same way as FRKZ.
Stomoman Posted November 22, 2010 Posted November 22, 2010 That's actually a pretty cool idea, but how would it work? It would be a bit overpowered if it didn't have something like Bang's seals. Perhaps if you hit the opponent with a certain attack, or a taunt, it would add to a counter, and it would work the same way as FRKZ. Maybe like Arakune's curse, where if she lands enough taunts, she goes into CS1 mode. I call it "Almost Becoming Good"
Cryingvoid Posted November 22, 2010 Posted November 22, 2010 Hey guys, it's been some time! Are the changes of fifth loketest considered to be the last? Taunt 40% prorate is what? And what does it mean 'all D's get same move proration'? It is a pain to browse all unread pages, please, what is overall comment on Tao's latest changes?
Stomoman Posted November 22, 2010 Posted November 22, 2010 What is overall comment on Tao's latest changes? Profound sadness
lurch_E_bean Posted November 22, 2010 Posted November 22, 2010 what is overall comment on Tao's latest changes? From here Taokaka ENDANGERED SPECIES Where I was, there was pretty much despair in the eyes of Taokaka players... Things are going SWIMMINGLY.
Stan McJeeves Posted November 22, 2010 Posted November 22, 2010 Taokaka ENDANGERED SPECIES Where I was, there was pretty much despair in the eyes of Taokaka players... ....And just when I was starting to feel better, Lurch had to post this again, bleh. Anyway, I still have some sliver of hope left due to Challenge mode needing at least 10 combos. Sure, we got nerfed like hell, but I think there's going to be some combos that are at least half decent. As it's been said countless times before, maybe Arc will take the time between now and Dec 9th to notice how bad Tao is and buff her or something.
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