Tri Edge Posted March 7, 2012 Posted March 7, 2012 I wonder if this has been asked before, but I'm a little confused over a certain reason in Blazblue. In the True Ending, Saya said that she destroyed Master Unit so "phenomenons is no longer random, but sequential." In my interpretation, the line implies that there will be no more distortions/loops, and events will be follow the rule of causality. If my interpretation were correct, then why do other characters in BB wanted to stop Terumi and the gang from destroying Amaterasu? Isn't it a good thing that there will be no distortions/loops?
STenSatsu Posted March 8, 2012 Posted March 8, 2012 I was going through Relius' Astral on everyone cause I just wanted to see them in better quality than Youtube, and I noticed against certain characters there was a "seal" around them on the ground and an aura coming off them. It only appears for Bang / Tsubaki / Hazama / Litchi / Makoto, which I find kinda odd. I could understand if it was meant to imply it was restraining certain character's powers, but then you have Makoto's which is kind of a joke inside the hamster ball and yet she has that effect. Yet a bunch of other character's don't. Is there something trying to be implied? Or is it just lack of continuity in design? I just find it kinda interesting, even if it is a bit random. Bang has Kushrenada's Lynchpin. Tsubaki has Izayoi which I think gives her the power of order essentially iirc. Haz is hax. Litchi has her jet li the one powers iirc. Makoto seems to have something in particular he's interested in. I think it is just a particularly strong soul or container. My only explanations for why circles would appear under those particular characters IF the seals matter at all.
Tong Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 I wonder if this has been asked before, but I'm a little confused over a certain reason in Blazblue. In the True Ending, Saya said that she destroyed Master Unit so "phenomenons is no longer random, but sequential." In my interpretation, the line implies that there will be no more distortions/loops, and events will be follow the rule of causality. If my interpretation were correct, then why do other characters in BB wanted to stop Terumi and the gang from destroying Amaterasu? Isn't it a good thing that there will be no distortions/loops? The problem is not destroying Amaterasu, and yes the means. In fact, if you think about it everyone is too "busy" worrying about their own stuff rather than trying to save the world.
retail_plus Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 Hi I was originally going to make a thread but I think I will ask it here and hopefully I can finally have my question answered. First off i want to say I am a huge fan of BB and GG and I platinumed Calamity Trigger and loved the story. I bought A used copy of continuum shift in the summer of 2011. I had to play a back log of games, I wanted to play all the critically acclaimed wii games and also some ps3 games aswell. All told I beat at least 26 games in the year 2011. BBCS wasn't one of them becasue I planned on buying the dlc then going through the game, this was in early Jan 2012 but then I got wind of bbcse, so I held off and bought the last collector's edition in my EB last week in Toronto. I am aware that in bbcse their is a retelling of Calamity triggers true ending and story's for the dlc characters aswell as for Relius. Does it also have the continuum shift storyline or will i have to play that first then get on Extend? I would hope that it will keep everything and add more but I figured It would be better ask you guys first. And if this post is not suppose to be in this thread I apologize.
Tong Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 It has CS1 storyline PLUS PSP CS2 Extras and Extend Extras. You can even transfer your story progress from CS1.
BladeOfJustice7 Posted March 23, 2012 Posted March 23, 2012 After playing the ct revamped-self-explanatory story mode, I can assume it's safe to say hakumen would be near if not at max power now that Rachel is observing him instead of Kokonoe since, she is a much stronger observer than Kokonoe, thereby allowing hakumen to spend less of his energy trying to simply keep himself around and just have access to more of his power. He's also been shown to beat people he had lost to like tager, since he could not get enough power to fight back and tager had devices in him that affected his power even further. He also was able to take out Hazama on several occasions (though there are occasions where hakumen has lost to him as well). So I would assume he has significantly more power at his disposal. I haven't done the rest of the games story mode though, just wanted to get that in the air.[/hakumenfanboy]
kylehyde Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 After playing the ct revamped-self-explanatory story mode, I can assume it's safe to say hakumen would be near if not at max power now that Rachel is observing him instead of Kokonoe since, she is a much stronger observer than Kokonoe, thereby allowing hakumen to spend less of his energy trying to simply keep himself around and just have access to more of his power. He's also been shown to beat people he had lost to like tager, since he could not get enough power to fight back and tager had devices in him that affected his power even further. He also was able to take out Hazama on several occasions (though there are occasions where hakumen has lost to him as well). So I would assume he has significantly more power at his disposal. I haven't done the rest of the games story mode though, just wanted to get that in the air.[/hakumenfanboy] Pretty much everyone in the game agrees that Hakumen not even at half power is extremely powerful. However no matter how strong he gets, which I imagine is going to be like almost unbeatable in the story line. You know he's going to lose to Ragna at some point. At least that's what I think, Jin is going to become even more powerful than Hakumen towards the end I figure.
BladeOfJustice7 Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 Agreed, I figured as much. But at the same time I can't see how Jin could surpass another Jin that's also using the Susano'o unit as well. Unless Jin is going to gain something even greater than that. And with Ragna being Bloodedge it would make sense for him to be stronger than Hakumen. Since he was able to keep the black beast at bay by himself and Hakumen face the black beast by himself and lost.
kylehyde Posted March 29, 2012 Posted March 29, 2012 Agreed, I figured as much. But at the same time I can't see how Jin could surpass another Jin that's also using the Susano'o unit as well. Unless Jin is going to gain something even greater than that. And with Ragna being Bloodedge it would make sense for him to be stronger than Hakumen. Since he was able to keep the black beast at bay by himself and Hakumen face the black beast by himself and lost. I think that's why Jubei is training Jin, because he wants him to become stronger than Hakumen. So strong that he wont need the Susanoo Unit. But I don't know, my own opinion. I figure that's where the story is headed.
Remius Posted March 29, 2012 Posted March 29, 2012 Pretty much everyone in the game agrees that Hakumen not even at half power is extremely powerful. However no matter how strong he gets, which I imagine is going to be like almost unbeatable in the story line. You know he's going to lose to Ragna at some point. At least that's what I think, Jin is going to become even more powerful than Hakumen towards the end I figure. People seem to keep forgetting, Hakumen is operating with only 20% of his power during all storymode events.
BladeOfJustice7 Posted March 29, 2012 Posted March 29, 2012 People seem to keep forgetting, Hakumen is operating with only 20% of his power during all storymode events. Calamity Trigger yes, Continuum Shift no. He's significantly stronger in in the story since people who would normally beat him (Terumi/Tager) he's able to take them out or keep up with them. Kokonoe was observing him in Calamity Trigger, but Rachel (a powerful observer) is observing him.
Kanashimi Posted March 29, 2012 Posted March 29, 2012 Calamity Trigger yes, Continuum Shift no. He's significantly stronger in in the story since people who would normally beat him (Terumi/Tager) he's able to take them out or keep up with them. Kokonoe was observing him in Calamity Trigger, but Rachel (a powerful observer) is observing him. Ture but saying that that seems to a be 40% if that really, but saying that look at Jubei while he didn't go to the Boundery he's at least over 100 (as all the Six Heros are) while Valkenhayn aged alot he is still quite strong but Trinity has yet to fight as herself not as Luna and Sena and Terumi is just poerful as ever, maybe when they kill Haku-men off (which may happen, I doubt it but still there is a chance) that's when he get's his full power back?
Remius Posted March 29, 2012 Posted March 29, 2012 Regardless of who's observing him, it still stands that Hakumen is still a fighter at less than half his full strength throughout the story events. At 20% power he was able to drop pretty much everyone, minus Rachel, Terumi or Blazblue Ragna. On CS, he's probably equaling Rachel in power, which is somewhere close to where Terumi stands, which is probably higher but nobody really knows (bottom line, they'd probably stalemate before a clear winner). Blazblue Ragna is obviously higher than everyone since he curbstomps Terumi. As for hakumen, even if he was at 50% of his strength, which i doubt he is, nobody is a match for the full-powered Hakumen. And the reason Jubei got his ass kicked in CS is because he got blindsided by Nine, or whoever that Phantom is. Apparently, that pure magic trumps pretty much everything in the storyline.
Kanashimi Posted March 29, 2012 Posted March 29, 2012 Regardless of who's observing him, it still stands that Hakumen is still a fighter at less than half his full strength throughout the story events. At 20% power he was able to drop pretty much everyone, minus Rachel, Terumi or Blazblue Ragna. On CS, he's probably equaling Rachel in power, which is somewhere close to where Terumi stands, which is probably higher but nobody really knows (bottom line, they'd probably stalemate before a clear winner). Blazblue Ragna is obviously higher than everyone since he curbstomps Terumi. As for hakumen, even if he was at 50% of his strength, which i doubt he is, nobody is a match for the full-powered Hakumen. And the reason Jubei got his ass kicked in CS is because he got blindsided by Nine, or whoever that Phantom is. Apparently, that pure magic trumps pretty much everything in the storyline. A full powered Haku-men would in theory be able to destory pretty much everyone at this point of the storyline but that's not taking into account that terumi is aware of of the Susano'o Unit and it's power as he once dewelled in that body, Nine/Phantom is pure magic user which a rare case to handle as magic is now used through an Ars Magus and don't forget his Nox Nyctores "Ookami" has yet to show it's true power in the story. And magic mostly forgotten as an art as the transfer to Ars Magus made magic easier to use. The only other to magic users currently alive i think are: Rachel, Kokonoe, Terumi? from Kazama ?, Trinity and Saya ?
kylehyde Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 I don't think a full power Hakumen is the strongest character in the game story wise. He admitted himself in his story mode before he was trapped in the boundary that he would probably lose to Jubei. So really, Jubei is stronger than full power Hakumen. If Hakumen really could kill everyone why does Rachel need Ragna? Becauase Ragna is the Destoryer but what does that really mean? What can Ragna do that a full power Hakumen can't? That's what I really want to know. Oh yea, since Rachel is now Hakumen's observer does that mean where going to be seeing them together now? I never really understood how that shit works.
glencocoe Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 Not to dig up an old thread, but I'm hella behind. Is there like a single DVD or video with a consolidated storyline? Of CT & CS?
BladeOfJustice7 Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 No just google CT CS story stuff or search them on youtube.
VermilionBird Posted June 22, 2013 Posted June 22, 2013 Im just gonna dig up this thread but what is the difference between Suzukaka and Totokaka? O.o Im uber confued :S
Chaoschao222 Posted June 22, 2013 Posted June 22, 2013 Not exactly CS-related, but the most obvious difference between those two Kaka are their hair color/style.
VermilionBird Posted June 22, 2013 Posted June 22, 2013 I know but Im confused, who is who? Is the tall red haired one Suzukaka and the small one with the skull on its hood Totokaka? :s Sorry its not CS related but this was practically the only Thread I could find that's remotely related to them
Chaoschao222 Posted June 22, 2013 Posted June 22, 2013 The BBCP story thread would be more appropriate, since the console version will cover at least portions of the PS novels. Anyways, last I checked, Totokaka was the small, blue-haired one and her older-looking red-headed sister was Suzukaka.
Kishido Posted October 29, 2013 Posted October 29, 2013 Something what bothers me... Why in CS Terumi is talking about "In the name of Susanoo" in the scene where he awakens Mu.
kibakirain Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 Something what bothers me... Why in CS Terumi is talking about "In the name of Susanoo" in the scene where he awakens Mu. Maybe it has something to do with Terumi being the first owner of the Susanoo unit...
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