Lord Knight Posted February 14, 2011 Author Posted February 14, 2011 Responding to both posts at once. First, everyone's mistake is saying things like "Well, arakune doesnt have much going for him outside of curse anyways." The thing is, he does have a lot going for him outside of curse. He doesn't need pressure that actually hits you - that's just a bonus. As far as pressure, he just needs to get you to block a D move. His neutral game is strong - he's mobile and has strong zoning tools - normal characters have problems dealing with this. If Litchi is a touch of death character, Arakune is a block of death character. Not only that, a bunch of random stuff can lead to you losing the round. This is a great equalizer for matches that should be bad (same as Makoto, some matchups should be way worse, but her damage output compensates). CS2 Litchi, the main big change that weakens her is loss of special cancel into itsuu. This is obvious no matter what level of play you're at. The main thing is that she can't confirm random (and I really mean random) hits into 4k+daisharin. However, she does still have it off a lot of hits, but not (almost) all random hits (for now). However she does have some stuff to compensate - 5D/2D set are both faster, so this helps with Hazama's faster chains, and 3C > 5D back makes the Rachel match easy and obvious again, rather than awkward (tools in CS1 are sort of hidden, most people relied on her damage). You don't want to judge based just on random players in vids, since their play is still incomplete (you can argue that the best players play are also incomplete, but they will use all the tools they have). Already she's got strong damage off most hits, but they tend to be solid hits. 6B is the new 2C.
Nini Heart Posted February 14, 2011 Posted February 14, 2011 Still though, Arakune has to make you block a bunch of times, he has a bunch of bad match-ups, people with good air to air moves make life hell for him(makoto J.b), etc. Not saying it's easy or anything, just saying I feel like there's a bunch of stuff much worse than kune. I might be biased since I haven't played any gdlk Kune's so far though. And yeah, Daisharin is significantly more balanced in CS2. Like I said, what made me feel it was really strong was the fact it was on CS1 litchi. It would be much less stronger if it was on Noel/Tsubaki/Insert random character with bad high/low/throw mixup and average damage/meter gain
Lord Knight Posted February 14, 2011 Author Posted February 14, 2011 between zoning and pressure, its not much add in random gold burst/airthrow/FC/Beam super and its not a lot at all also again, the only "bad" matchups arakune has would be like litchi/bang/tao - other chars like lambda/hazama/rachel win by design, but damage output makes it even
LunaKage Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 Still though, Arakune has to make you block a bunch of times, he has a bunch of bad match-ups, people with good air to air moves make life hell for him(makoto J.b), etc. Not saying it's easy or anything, just saying I feel like there's a bunch of stuff much worse than kune. I might be biased since I haven't played any gdlk Kune's so far though. And yeah, Daisharin is significantly more balanced in CS2. Like I said, what made me feel it was really strong was the fact it was on CS1 litchi. It would be much less stronger if it was on Noel/Tsubaki/Insert random character with bad high/low/throw mixup and average damage/meter gain If Noel had Daisharin it would be gdlk, 214A/6B mixups that can't be punished because of blockstun.
Nini Heart Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 If Noel had Daisharin it would be gdlk, 214A/6B mixups that can't be punished because of blockstun. I really wouldn't mind that at all. On Noel it would be pretty damn balanced. She actually needs something like this ._.
LunaKage Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 I really wouldn't mind that at all. On Noel it would be pretty damn balanced. She actually needs something like this ._. Hell if her 2A was Makoto tier I would win matches just by using that.
Lord Knight Posted February 28, 2011 Author Posted February 28, 2011 no one cares about flat empty tables in this thread
LunaKage Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 no one cares about flat empty tables in this thread But I like Noel... :<
Nini Heart Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 Hell if her 2A was Makoto tier I would win matches just by using that. Wasn't it good in CT? I remember scrubbing out in CT with Noel and mashing 2A and beating my friends with only that and lol 2D overhead. And why is LK hating on Noelie:(
Lord Knight Posted February 28, 2011 Author Posted February 28, 2011 this thread is for discussion about women
Lord Knight Posted February 28, 2011 Author Posted February 28, 2011 Noel is the only flat table. agreed
Lord Knight Posted February 28, 2011 Author Posted February 28, 2011 i on the other hand enjoy large portions
LunaKage Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 i on the other hand enjoy large portions I prefer better grip. Litchi has had too much Pole EXP for my tastes.
Lord Knight Posted February 28, 2011 Author Posted February 28, 2011 how do you grip something thats not there
Nakkiel Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 your hands are too small and girly for litchi-sama
Nini Heart Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 In the grander perspective, Noel>Litchi overall.
Nini Heart Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 Ladies>Stripper doctors. In the long run, Noel>>>>>>Litchi. Litchi probably has all sorts of STD's too! You don't want that. Neither do I.
Nakkiel Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 Noel lacks common sense and is as dumb as a doornail. She's also blonde. and as flat as a table
Nini Heart Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 Noel is NAIVE. She's only 3 years old dood, what are you expecting from a 3 year old >.>? And flat is not bad. It's just different. Also, she has dem thighs hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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