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>implying I was ever mad.

I seriously can't believe I have to post this.

So Washington is pretty far from socal I'm aware.

How far is NY again? LK, you should know this it's kind of around you. I can't believe IM getting criticized for supporting someone else now. What the fuck is wrong with you people.

Of course you are! Do you know where you are?

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DaiAndOh, after ReveLAtions, I will post a detailed analysis of all the matchups i feel i can i've played enough (offline) of match up specifics and strategies.

the matchup thread doesn't seem to great other than a couple specific characters...

i would recommend everybody hold of for atleast 2 weeks on match-ups... although nobody can actually enforce (other than Dai/10stars)

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ill help out with rachel strats if bang players still exist in NY after im fucking done with him.

(not you dai :cool: )

in return, a little bang v rach advice would be good (if people even play rachel :( )

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hopefully i might run into a rachel player at ReveLAtions(and get some casuals), other than that i probably won't have any rachel to play againist so my input would be very limited.

It seems like dacidbro just made threads for every character, even though he didn't have experience in those matchups. I think we should avoid doing that. (bad info is worse than no info imo)

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true, unless you play a character that is well known by someone/people.

like, say, litchi. you get shit wrong, lk will probably test it and tell you. idk what the deal is here, l THOUGHT since l hear people say dacidbro was gdlk he'd know (or share, im not hating :cool: ) the matchup bits. but idk who the really gdlk bangs are and how deep they will analyze these sorts of things.

we have that sorta in the rachel thread (its the mu matchup shits im heated about)

regardless, im prooobably the only rach in NY... or anywhere... so if NY even plays bb again ill have a few bangs to fight maybeeeeee

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i think kensou is currently the best bang in america.

i don't think WUT plays bang anymore (contender) but i can't think of anybody else that is on his level.

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hopefully i might run into a rachel player at ReveLAtions(and get some casuals), other than that i probably won't have any rachel to play againist so my input would be very limited.

It seems like dacidbro just made threads for every character, even though he didn't have experience in those matchups. I think we should avoid doing that. (bad info is worse than no info imo)

Then we should close the matchup boards, because no one ever offered any constructive criticism or updates. At least I gave us a place to start when CS was brand new :psyduck:

The reality is, when it seemed like no one gave a fuck, I stopped trying to update it and just updated my own personal matchup knowledge instead.

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Could anyone enlighten me on the timing of the j.d in the regular throw 4 seal combo, i can do the dash 2d nearly 100% of the time now, but the j.d seems to have a mind of its own and whiffs an awful lot.

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Then we should close the matchup boards, because no one ever offered any constructive criticism or updates. At least I gave us a place to start when CS was brand new :psyduck:

The reality is, when it seemed like no one gave a fuck, I stopped trying to update it and just updated my own personal matchup knowledge instead.

hey dacidbro...

chill the fuck out.

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It seems like dacidbro just made threads for every character, even though he didn't have experience in those matchups. I think we should avoid doing that. (bad info is worse than no info imo)

At least bad info sparks discussion, and people who know it's wrong can fix it. No info does nothing whatsoever.

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i feel that he did a good job on the matchups he knew, and that the ones you didn't (Jin for example) seemed to be placeholder. I think we should try getting together and discussing matchups that nobody knows here rather than posting "almost nothing". I know the other thread is for matchups, but i think the first post should have meaningful content about the matchup, which would promote discussion better...

I am not hating on you, and i totally think you should make the threads, if you personally have played that matchup. :3

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Aside from the litchi boards, most match up threads are pretty useless. As long as people don't contribute, the match up sections will remain ass

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our matchup threads aren't too bad, other than the characters dacid didn't know.

i just assumed there was info there, but i was wrong.

thats why i think its a better idea to discuss the matchup together and then post something rather than filler being there.

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Well, I only check the Makoto match ups, and I can tell from the stuff I see posted there that most of you guys are free in that match up. Dunno about how well fleshed out the other ones are.

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I might be a little mad if I thought I was better than OmniScythe. Im not delusional.

I'd have been happy if LK won too cause I dickride like that. He wins everywhere anyway though OmniScythe needs to get his name out there more. That's the real reason I made that comment.

Also fuck west coast fuck texas fuck PNW and fuck new york I'm better than all of you ft10 bank account match lets go. also im married to green jeans and have sexier hair than dacidbro

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Could anyone enlighten me on the timing of the j.d in the regular throw 4 seal combo, i can do the dash 2d nearly 100% of the time now, but the j.d seems to have a mind of its own and whiffs an awful lot.

It isn't completely universal. In fact a lot of his combos aren't, even if they seem like it, but no character specific notes have really been listed about that kinda stuff.

I started testing combos and making notes about that stuff a long time ago as you can see from the air ender section, but people didn't seem to really care at the time about the rest of it so I stopped posting it.

2 examples:

The 2 seal combo that Nezu and I think Den were doing in CS1,

That 2 seal combo even though it wasn't the optimal 2 seal combo, it provided different oki setups. One may think it is universal, but it most definitely isn't. You record that combo on Jin and it will work and then play it back against the rest of the cast and you'll see all the differences.

Now that combo is one of Bang's BnBs in CS2, because of the changes it may be more universal but at this point I haven't spent that much time on it, so we'll see. In CS1 it definitely isn't.

The combo you're talking about is kinda the same way,

You read it and there's no character specific notes. You try and do a regular forward throw and do that combo and you'll find out it doesn't work against Bang / Carl for whatever reason. You'll realize that you actually have to do a back throw against them for it to work. And I'm not even sure it works on Tager / Rachel but I can't remember. And I'm pretty sure there's other adjustments that need to be made for other characters or it might not even work out right against them.

Stuff like that is important but lacking here. One could say that's stuff you just learn with experience or training mode, but for the site that's supposed to be for people who are competitive and "serious" about learning you would think those details would be important enough to be posted.

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Thanks Zeth, i've been trying to do this combo for a while now even though i'm pretty much limited to shitty netplay (sucks because i have no way to play offline as all my mates are boring and like call of duty), and because i like to go FRKZ more than I should do, i've always wondered why it seems to whiff on some of the cast. Cheers again.

PS:Are you looking forward to CS2 Bang, personally i think he seems incredibly fun.

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Thanks Zeth, i've been trying to do this combo for a while now even though i'm pretty much limited to shitty netplay (sucks because i have no way to play offline as all my mates are boring and like call of duty), and because i like to go FRKZ more than I should do, i've always wondered why it seems to whiff on some of the cast. Cheers again.

PS:Are you looking forward to CS2 Bang, personally i think he seems incredibly fun.

I'm looking forward to CS2 because it'll be a nice change of pace.

Because of the way/s I play Bang and how I treat the matches, it's almost always fun, even still in CS1. So in that regard CS2 will be nothing new since I've always had fun playing the game the way I play it.

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ft10 bank account match lets go.

i gladly accept, this is heavily skewed in my favor

also dacid cut his hair and it wouldn't have competed with mine anyways :kitty:

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