Guilty Gear 2: Overture released

[Aedesyr]

i was ill, drunk, and sleepy(4 a.m.. lol). i swear next time i'll win. ok, maybe not, but at least i'll put a decent fight. remember: a battle harden warrior can't stand against a perfectly crafted STRATEGY. i just love paradigm. I thing i'm gonna main him. he's so fucking badass. Edit: i'm quitting 'bout writing the location guide of gg2. Training on 2vs2 maps requires time in order to write a guide 'bout them(and the other locations as well). I'm simply not good enough to write a guide 'bout them right now; i tried to but they sucked. Sorry.

[Blackgenma]

I'm pretty sure I kicked your paradigm's and Izuna's ass before you went to that party. pretty silly that your paradigm fell to a lone engulfer. your Izuna simply sucks at fighting. but no worries, always remember that when I'm not playing against you, I'm losing. I don't even pick paradigm anymore, since I'm so focused on getting better with Sol. next time we train on 2 vs 2 map, I'll put the computer on level 3 instead of 5. that way, we can actually focus on map strategy. let's hope our games don't fucking freeze. Ayumu, you missed nothing, but a few good matches against the jp. I would write guides for these maps, but I need to see the maps in front of me. if anyone would be kind enough to provide me screen shots of every map's organ, I would type up some basic map strategies. I need the numbers of the ghosts, and I'll be able to work from there. I can't write guides on the maps due to the location I play the game. not very well suited to sitting down and writing a guide.

[Aedesyr]

...yeah, you did kicked my ass. i'm just too lazy to get some decent training on 1vs1. And i don't really know how to counter sol's vv(and other things).

[Blackgenma]

this game is hard. very hard. you counter Sol's VV by predicting it and dodging, or blocking it. pressing foward and the select is a respect. pressing select is a taunt. your opponent can hear the taunt and respect regardless of where they are on the map. paradigm has some pretty funny taunts. Paradigm: that's not a very smart move you know, -YOU- being in charge. this game requires practice, and it's hard to practice due to the lack of competition that's around your own level. got nothing but the jp, and there aren't even a lot of them around.

[Aedesyr]

And i really can't play against jps, i really have a HORRIBLE latency with them. But i don't really care. this game's fun as hell, and that's what matters the most. (That won't stop me from slowly train and getting overpowered, obviously)

[Blackgenma]

it's funny, your actually the first person I constantly have matches with and can actually talk shit with, even considering I play only one day a week (maybe two if I'm lucky and I'm up for it). maybe I'll have one more if crabbas gets the game. and don't tell cantido this but the game actually does not suffer from cheap ass tactics, imbalance and ragequitters. anyway, you really should get more into 2 vs 2, it's TONS of fun. 1 vs 1 is really strict and competitive, and it's great for improving your skills, but 2 on 2 is SO much more....I don't know. it's fucking fun. that's why I wanted to practice some 2 on 2 with you. practice with the computer in exhibition mode, just so you understand the flow of the battles. when you get used to it, it's really fun. both 1 vs 1 and 2 vs 2 have they're good points. neither should replace the other. for bullshit purposes, you have points match (four player free for all). that's more about maintaining your territory and other silly stuff. if you play with good players, you can have tons of fun, and removes the competitive tension. just beat the shit out of the closest person.

[Ayumu Gardevoir]

Teams have always been better then singles.

[Blackgenma]

no, not always. when you want to prove just how good you are, you don't have a partner to lean on if you fuck up. teams is more fun than singles, but due to it's format, it loses something that singles has: the feeling of simply owning someone all by yourself. singles is a better testament of an individual's skill, and I wouldn't trade that away.

EDIT: OH YEAH! did you know that the dual horn unit can heal allies? I had NO IDEA. I've got to test this out! I wanna compare the healing abilities of the dual horn and the the block head. when block head heals, it loses health, but the dual horn doesn't. from what I've seen, the block head heals a good amount, and if it heals Sol, the amount it loses is seemingly disproportionate to the amount it restores for the ally. but testing for th exact numbers will be kind of hard.

also, I tested out the damage the Gigan't upgrades do to masters, and my analysis was correct. Axe is good for defense, while spear is good for offense. when the axe hits an enemy master, it does 240 damage. when the spear hits a master...from what I saw (remember the the spear hits servants multiple times) it did about 420 damage to the master I was using (I can't remember the total amount, and the spear hit only once, knocking down the master right away. lets say that it does over 400 damage for now.) and note that the hitbox for the gigant's spear charge is NOT limited to the spear itself, but to whatever the Gingant's front side hits. this is intriguing. I need to test out more things about the Gigan't armor upgrade, it's more reliable than the ranged upgrade and does an obscene amount of damage.

expect more test results for the Gigant in the future.

[Ayumu Gardevoir]

Yeah, I agree with you there, but when you play for the pure sake of lulz then... oh w/e this thread isn't for the "Serious impaired"

[Blackgenma]

meh, I may be a little on the stiff side. OMFG Kimera's videos on Nico video STILL have messed up quality. how the hell can I make a video topic thread without his videos? they were so good! strange that they went to the shit right after my thread went under. I'm at a loss of what to do about it.

[Xithmos]

My apologies about the Night of Shenanigans. The software I use with my capture card stopped working Saturday afternoon, that's why I didn't get on Guilty Gear 2. Hopefully I'll have it fixed by next weekend. I am also going to buy Sony Vegas so I can crop the videos and make the videos look more fancier. I'll let you guys know when Night of Shenanigans will be up and running again.

[Mahouko]

just asking. What happen to badguys fire seal?

[danceljoy]

It seems to have been revamped.

[Blackgenma]

the game never really addresses the design change in Sol's sword. there are hints that it is the fireseal, such as its design when he goes level 50 dragon install. this game is dead. ugh.

[PandaKingEX]

They need to make a sequel, and not even call it guilty gear, so that the game doesn't get blasted to hell by the 2d fanboys, before it's even released.

[Aedesyr]

I am also going to buy Sony Vegas so I can crop the videos and make the videos look more fancier.

Buy?

BUY?

That's wrong, and you should feel bad about it.

anywyas.

i really have to get some training.

I'm training mostly with paradigm, and i have to say that his lack of combat abilities is worse than i expected.

Oh well.

Oh, and if you want to do a match or two, just invite me.

Even if i'm playing something different.

[Sol.Badguy]

Panda, add my new account, it's not xNecrofear666x anymore :p

[Blackgenma]

They need to make a sequel, and not even call it guilty gear, so that the game doesn't get blasted to hell by the 2d fanboys, before it's even released.

But..But..I like the name.

FUCK THEM FANBOYS.

and yeah, c'mon aedyser, I've been screaming paradigm sucks at fighting every time we mention him. guy couldn't get worse at it.

been really enjoying brutal legends recently. it's like GG2 lite.

but stay away if love masters only...or hate mindless games of MAKE BIG ARMY! SMASH! SMASH!

[Aedesyr]

the big differences between gg2 and brutal is that brutal has players.

[Blackgenma]

there are tons of differences. and actually, GG2 has a few players every night, they just lag, and are better than me. I really like how BL is much easier than GG2 (and doesn't have a primary player base composed of nothing but japanese), but thats also it's flaw as well. catching fan geysers is like a game of hungry hippos, it give you no tactical advantage, as crabbas put it. the fact that making no units in the beginning of the match is a legit strategy shows how silly that game can be. try to pull something like a teir rush in GG2 and you lose before you even begin match. no free ghosts for you here. BL is a fun alternative, but it can't replace GG2, its simply not good enough, even with no one playing this damn game.

[Aedesyr]

i already said that gg2 is way, way better than brutal(as for the mp, cause brutal's campaign is AWSOME); it's just that i can only find in gg2 japanese players(and that means LAG. I lag with them more than you do, cuz i'm even farther from them)and...well, you dustloop guys.

[danceljoy]

Just reminding you guys of the map screen-shots I'm requesting! (Personally I would like to see the Sacred Order fortress!) Bye!

[Blackgenma]

I can't provide any screen shots. in fact, I would like some screen shots, but not of the stage, just an empty organ page. aedeyser, I'm just spilling some hate. it's impossible for me to not be jealous of the the fact that BL has people who actually aren't Japanese playing it. see? even I can admit it when I'm being a bitch. ALSO! I'm made my guide in FAQ format. Yes, that's right, I'm submitting it to gamefaqs. I have a question regarding the copyright. if I release my guide, I automatically have copyright over it? or do I have to go somewhere and...apply for it or something? just wondering.

[Ayumu Gardevoir]

pretty sure it's auto copyrighted, just make sure to put what sites you gave permission to put it up on on it.

[Blackgenma]

ok, thanks a bunch. will submit it today. oh, and just asking, to make this clear. is there anyone able to take screen shots? I'd love to get my hands on clean organ images for every map (for 1 on1 and 2 on 2). I'd like to make strategy guide for them, if possible. so if anyone can make screen shots of those images, I'd be really grateful. GAME STUFF. did you know that units have item slots? heaven's libra cannot cast his staff if you place a mouth zipper on him. this works for many units, including twin triggers (who most likely lose their big shot) so if you are dealing with somehting like a convict hammer, and you don't want the bastard dispelling your stuff, silence him with a mouth zipper (or with Engulfer's "shut up" special move) the onlyu issue here is that most elites use there special abilities right away when they see you. so in the case of heaven's libra, you have to dispel the rod first (or wait till it's nearly faded), than place the mouth zipper on him shortly after to get the most out of it. this stuff needs a lot more testing, but it's an effective way to disarm many elites I'd imagine, meuille fuelle (valentine mobile elite) included most likely. wonder if it will have any effect on the likes of a dragon?