Blackgenma Posted November 8, 2009 Posted November 8, 2009 TRIPLE POST! I fought an interesting paradigm that destroyed me in combat the other day. he completely relied on rapid fire AND the slow foot item. I was pretty much a sitting duck. that slow Item was very potent, and I almost never see it used, so we should be sure to take advantage of it. the slowing effect is the most drastic I have ever seen (you can barely move, much stronger than Izuna's minion or valentine's magic units). to counter it, I got mouth zipper and dispel, when he got hit with mouth zipper, he tried to run away like there was no tomorrow. slow foot item would be a godsend against sin who is always running way from you. he won't be getting very far with that on him.
Aedesyr Posted November 8, 2009 Posted November 8, 2009 I have to try that. I never even thought of using the slow foot item. Btw, ggs last day, i stillhave to do a lot of training; i suck at 2vs2 matches. Ugh. But i improved on 1vs1. I'll show ya next time. Btw, i need some tips to izuna combos. I mean, i still haven't found any other way to improve the damage of a normal x, x, x combo than the "get out" skill. Is really paradigm incapable of dong better combos?
Blackgenma Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 don't worry. you just need to practice on 2 vs 2 matches, and you'll get used to them. if the maps confuse you, try facing the computer on exhibition in team matches, so you can take your time to know the map and preform basic strategies. you'll eventually get the hang of them that way. I posted a the inputs for paradigm's situational combos in the GG video thread. those are pretty much all he can do, combo wise, so yeah, you have to deal with it. mix it up and don't rely on combos. Edit: there's only one way I know how the extend the damage on the combo, and it's (L) x, x, x, MC, 2x. if they get knocked down follow up with an apple or a get out of here skill. that's the most dangerous combo he has without the assistant bonnie bomb.
Xithmos Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 The reason why I sprint away as Sin is because I don't aim to go after another master while trying to capture essential ghosts. You've never seen me use rapid fire + slow feet (or whatever the hell it's called)? There are plenty of combos that Sin has that lead into a rapid fire + slow feet. I believe Sol and Izuna can also combo into this. Aedesyr, look at my montage video that Panda doesn't enjoy on youtube. I include a few combos with Izuna, as well as for other characters. I might remake it with more smexier combos and such. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfUD-DEiR0c
Blackgenma Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 The reason why I sprint away as Sin is because I don't aim to go after another master while trying to capture essential ghosts. You've never seen me use rapid fire + slow feet (or whatever the hell it's called)? There are plenty of combos that Sin has that lead into a rapid fire + slow feet. I believe Sol and Izuna can also combo into this. Aedesyr, look at my montage video that Panda doesn't enjoy on youtube. I include a few combos with Izuna, as well as for other characters. I might remake it with more smexier combos and such. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfUD-DEiR0c no, thats not what I meant, it wasn't directed at you. you have an annoyingly defensive sin, and that has nothing to do with slow feet (or heavy feet, I forgot what it's called.) or the fact that you obviously didn't want to engage in master combat. Sin in general LOVES to keep his distance, and the bastard can't keep his distance if he's slow as hell (actually, no one can, but I dislike Sin especially, so I use him as an example.) Slow foot Item is very powerful and dangerous. I don't use rapid fire because.... well there isn't a good reason why I don't use it, I just don't. I prefer bombs anyway. rapid fire is very deadly, and quite a few characters can hit you with a guard breaker if they catch you blocking it. I should use the skill more often. bombs rock, nuff said. stun bombs... significantly less so. need some quick master ghost defense? use capture soldier. it's not bad. Edit: the reason I went after you that match continually was because my focus was primarily to stop you from dominating the map. that's really one of the best ways to stop players who are better at taking over the map than you are. players who normally crush me suddenly see it's harder to carry out their plans when some jack ass tries to beat them up. I didn't stock on items because I wanted a constant flow of servants to prevent yours from taking over.
Xithmos Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 That may be, but a rapid fire + roman cancel + unblock-able = This works mainly with Sol, Ky (iirc), Raven, Izuna, and Valentine. Bombs can be fairly obvious, and stun grenades are... meh. Landmines near the enemy masterghost AND have them spawn on it = win. I have to play defensive with Sin because a whiffed 4X, unlock forward X, or 2X will leave me completely open to a 200+ point combo.
Blackgenma Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 That may be, but a rapid fire + roman cancel + unblock-able = This works mainly with Sol, Ky (iirc), Raven, Izuna, and Valentine. Bombs can be fairly obvious, and stun grenades are... meh. Landmines near the enemy masterghost AND have them spawn on it = win. I have to play defensive with Sin because a whiffed 4X, unlock forward X, or 2X will leave me completely open to a 200+ point combo. oh I don't blame you for being defensive. I just don't like it. ky's (F) 8x is not a guard breaker. but it has high guard break properties, like Sin's. whether it works with him or not, I have no Idea. With paradigm, it's a free apple, so he can do it too (a player did this to me a lot, very effective.) lets do more 1 on 1 the upcoming weekend. and put up those matches you recorded if they are any fun to watch. EDIT:oh, and are you going to work on a Izuna video tutorial like I requested before? more than just a combo video please, theres so much more to fighting than just combos. if you make one I'll link it over at the GG2 video thread.
Xithmos Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 I will work on it next weekend. It takes about 2-3 hours per video to upload, so they might take a while.
Blackgenma Posted November 12, 2009 Posted November 12, 2009 xithmos, Iv'e seen some of the videos you put it. great to see how much I suck at fighting. anyway, I'm thinking of putting together a combo list for every character. I think this game sorely lacks a proper combo list. however, this will actually be rather difficult for me to do, since I have limited access to the game, and the characters in this game have a ton of combos they can do, all with varying degrees of usefulness. if you guys have any interest to see such a thing, let me know, and share what combos you know yourself. since this is a rather big project, I'd like as much help as I can get with this, and due to it's format, it's not hard at all to contribute. I think it would just feel wrong not to have a combo list for this game. I probably won't get working on it right away, thanks to school, but since you guys should already know I make good on my word, you should expect me to work on it as soon as I can. until than, just let me know if theres any interest.
danceljoy Posted November 12, 2009 Posted November 12, 2009 Can somebody answer this mvergrimzone? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wrk7MZCDVpw&feature=related His post being unanswered bothers me.
Blackgenma Posted November 12, 2009 Posted November 12, 2009 Can somebody answer this mvergrimzone? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wrk7MZCDVpw&feature=related His post being unanswered bothers me. you shouldn't let something like that bother you. I answered it for you though, and I did it in a relatively respectable manner. hope that makes you feel better. because people have a habit of overlooking posts, I'm posting this again. anyway, I'm thinking of putting together a combo list for every character. I think this game sorely lacks a proper combo list. however, this will actually be rather difficult for me to do, since I have limited access to the game, and the characters in this game have a ton of combos they can do, all with varying degrees of usefulness. if you guys have any interest to see such a thing, let me know, and share what combos you know yourself. since this is a rather big project, I'd like as much help as I can get with this, and due to it's format, it's not hard at all to contribute. I think it would just feel wrong not to have a combo list for this game. I probably won't get working on it right away, thanks to school, but since you guys should already know I make good on my word, you should expect me to work on it as soon as I can. until than, just let me know if theres any interest.
Blackgenma Posted November 15, 2009 Posted November 15, 2009 DOUBLE POST! I have just came upon a revelation on dealing with masters who carry elites as body guards. SCARECROW! now I haven't tested it out myself, but, it's better than just getting your ass shot at by a Quadra Baliff, something you just can't counter easily. also, It takes 2 dispels to take out a scarecrow. same as a kokopelli summon. random tidbit. for extra protection,. I've seen the Japanese carry 2 dispels. not a bad Idea to counter some tricks. on the topic of dispel, did you know that the slow attack that Izuna's minion does cannot be rid of via dispel? I found that out the hard way. if your lucky, you can try to summon your own minion after Izuna, and it might target the minion instead of you. this has happened to me once when I tossed out a hunchback. Englfer has super armor on when it walks. over kill. Edit: I mean Firewheel! Firewheel has super armor on when it walks!
Helter Skelter Posted November 15, 2009 Posted November 15, 2009 I'm going to give this game a proper go. Can anyone tell me about the pros and cons of Valentine against the rest of the cast?
Blackgenma Posted November 15, 2009 Posted November 15, 2009 http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?p=485058#post485058 there you'll find basic guides for every character, and a general guide for getting into the game. I hope you don't mind reading, because the guides are pretty huge. scroll down and you'll find valentine's guide. any additional question I'll answer for you.
PandaKingEX Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 Well guys, I got some good news, and some bad news. Good news is that my 360 is back in action. Bad news is that I still don't have a copy of GG2 yet.
Blackgenma Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 Well guys, I got some good news, and some bad news. Good news is that my 360 is back in action. Bad news is that I still don't have a copy of GG2 yet. good news is that the game is dirt cheap, all you need is monies! it will be fun to fight someone who is Japanese level, without all the lag normally associated with it. panda, any thoughts about my Idea about using scarecrow to distract the likes of Quadra Baliff? opinion? because I REALLY HATE THAT UNIT.
Xithmos Posted November 17, 2009 Posted November 17, 2009 Well guys, I got some good news, and some bad news. Good news is that my 360 is back in action. Bad news is that I still don't have a copy of GG2 yet. Amazon(dot)com would like to have a word with you.
PandaKingEX Posted November 17, 2009 Posted November 17, 2009 Well my gamestop has like 3 copies used for only $20 bucks. Problem is that I spent too much money on my 360, and I also had to do other crap like renew my gold subscription. I'm either going to have to wait until after this weekend for when I get paid, or come up with some other quick way to make $20.
Blackgenma Posted November 17, 2009 Posted November 17, 2009 just wait till you can afford it. that's the best option. you've been out for months, a few more days wont kill us.
Aedesyr Posted November 17, 2009 Posted November 17, 2009 Uncle aede needs you! For playing gg2. This game really needs some new players. btw panda, when ya get the game, add me. I really need someone to play the game with. Except for blackgenma. 'cause his sol is annoying.
Ayumu Gardevoir Posted November 17, 2009 Posted November 17, 2009 What about me? D: Just send me an invite and I'll join right away :D
Sol.Badguy Posted November 17, 2009 Posted November 17, 2009 Yes! panda can FINALLY accept my Friend request!
Blackgenma Posted November 17, 2009 Posted November 17, 2009 Uncle aede needs you! For playing gg2. This game really needs some new players. btw panda, when ya get the game, add me. I really need someone to play the game with. Except for blackgenma. 'cause his sol is annoying. what are you talking about? you beat me the last 1 on 1 we had. despite all I know about this game, I'm really nothing special. if you think my sol is annoying, OH BOY, you haven't seen anything until you played Panda's Sol. he used to take down my masterghost in 1 round.
Xithmos Posted November 17, 2009 Posted November 17, 2009 Panda's sol is EZ to play against. Ayumu, you're always on Blazblue or The Orange Box anyway. >_>
Aedesyr Posted November 17, 2009 Posted November 17, 2009 if you think my sol is annoying, OH BOY, you haven't seen anything until you played Panda's Sol. he used to take down my masterghost in 1 round. D: guess i need to train. I still can't use izuna's tribe to 100% efficency. EDIT: i'm always in for a gg2 match. Just ask or invite even if i'm playing something else.
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