[CS2] Litchi Changelog

[Nakkiel]

It will probably look similar to the CT Ippatsu combo, assuming it even stays in.

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2C-4D-hakuchunhatsu-riichiA-B-6C(1)-4kote-j.BCB loop-corner ender

Im so confused by this, how could you do riichiA after a 4D?

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OH! Corner combo, gotcha..

[Nakkiel]

EDIT: nvm

[Diveman]

It will probably look similar to the CT Ippatsu combo, assuming it even stays in.

yeah, I also remembered that combo, so it might be a viable way of getting the loop. well time will tell, when is the update coming for Ps3?

[Nakkiel]

No date has been announced.

[Nakkiel]

She's hardly going to be low tier at all. Don't over-react so much, she had some things that were too strong and overall they've been taken care of while a couple of other nerfs have been thrown in. On paper she is still very much playable.

And the things you learned are hardly a waste of time. :/ It's very disappointing to see new players not being able to understand how to apply previously learned things to later revisions, different characters, etc.

[Nakkiel]

Quit crying over it. Everyone was bawling over CT -> CS changes. Look what happened.

[Nakkiel]

You haven't even played CS2 yet. :/

[Neo Cyrus]

I deleted my posts because I don't want to clutter a change discussion thread with unnecessary things. Delete your replies then I'll delete this post.

Edited December 7, 2010 by Neo Cyrus

[Fugu]

There is an almost total lack of videos and concrete information for Litchi as far as I can see; is there anywhere that this information is posted (if not here)?

[stinkymonz]

From Lord Knight's post:

5B > 2C > 6D > haku > hatsu > (riichiA > ippatsuA > ippatsuB > land > hatsu) x2 > 6c(1) > 4kote > jBCB > jBCD > jC > 6C > (daisharin?) = 4.1k near corner

So, can we assume staffless normals also don't cancel to Itsuu? Don't see a reason why the old Itsuu-A loop couldn't work once you get to the first hatsu. Also, theoretically (word of the day) speaking TK Itsuu combos should still work right? ie 6B[m] TK Itsuu or possibly off 5B[m] or 3C[m].

[Urichinan]

No, they fixed it so she can't TK into Itsuu as well.

But... Did I notice that Tsubame combos? Like... LEGIT combos after Tsubame?

[ATGMantenbo]

I really wish they brought back tsubame combos; the damage off starter > tsubame doesn't matter, what matters is you carry them to the corner then start the rape.

[Lord Knight]

Her BNB uses tsubame, lol.

A couple of more changes:

6C[m] is like Rachel's 5CC.

6D got buffed, it's now +3.

All throws can lead into itsuu.

Ippatsu = 120% prorate, but has same move proration.

Will post more later.

[Nakkiel]

"6C[m] is like Rachel's 5CC"

You mean it causes slide?

[Lord Knight]

Yeah.

They're saying 6C > iad JBC is possible.

Meaning 5B CH > 6C > iad jBC.

[Diveman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRnDCZwr9EI&feature=sub

daaamn forward throw is quite interesting now

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[Lord Knight]

comments:

holy SHIT dash D is ridiculous fast now.

ch jC seems to act like hakumen's hotaru - i heard he could still combo off it from pretty far, i wonder what litchi could do . . .

forward throw is interesting, goes into itsuuB - nice! im already familiar with that route

first corner bnb. . . is lacking elegance imo, hopefully they'll discover some cool shit later

6D still looks good

airthrow > itsuuC, nice

it seems that if you're far and you use tsubame to confirm, that's pretty much it for midscreen (at least as far as staff hitconfirm). its still early though.

gonna have to find new ways to confirm everything. . . surprised that fio didnt try 6D after kokushi. go with what you know, i guess.

5D/2D look significantly faster as well

holy shit 5D/2D sets are sooooooooo fast

6A looks safe at a distance still

6B looks like it has a bit more blockstun

6C. . .uh. .. woah

i think 6b and 6c being more useful will change up her neutral game quite a bit

whoa, 6b pushes back pretty far on ground hit

fio: "sweet, i know what to do after daisharin!"

yay 6B CH wallbounce!

overall, looking good! im liking some of the new tools she has. as far as confirming goes, we'll just have to wait and see how she develops.

EDIT: SHIT there was a 2nd vid!!!!!!

Chun looks like it has significantly more hitstun. I think its p2 is 74% right now, but it makes the dash 2A followup obsolete (which is nice cause that was hard)

6B on air hit. . .weird

Nice, 6A is retains its use as a poke - it looks like you can confirm a ch with a combo

6C hit! he only did iad jB, but im sure iad jBC will be the shiiiiit

Edited December 15, 2010 by Lord Knight

[KD]

So should we go ahead and post CSII Litchi vids in here, or is it time for CSII Litchi video thread now?

[ATGMantenbo]

OMG 6C pushback is HUGE .. great tool to space with

5b 5c 3c midscreen >> really boring, I wish they discover something better

[Nakkiel]

There should be a combo with 5B 5C 6D, but I don't think that works from max range.

And 6C[m]'s pushback is awesome, it's going to make the move really safe to throw out.

[Urichinan]

I wonder if the 4D slide is still there...

[Nakkiel]

Should be. It's quite possible that Fio just forgot about it, he seemed pretty flustered with what to do when he landed hits in general.

[Diveman]

yeah he should be, with all the changes litchi got. I say give the japanese time to figure her out again (which is why I think there arent many litchi videos yet)