[CS2] Litchi Changelog

[ATGMantenbo]

I remember Loketest 1 Rachel was much worse than the current CS Rachel. In other words, don't panic just yet. I don't think they want anyone to suffer the whole Rachel tier again. Even if that does happen, those that stick with Litchi certainly have my respect. It takes true dedication to play a character and knowing every match-up will be uphill. Here's to hoping Litchi does not become the new Rachel, because nobody deserves that.

calming words ~

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[MrViceTaicho]

one word:FACK!

[Spud]

I could give a damn about tiers, if she's fun and FEELS RIGHT I'm fine. And I thought the whole point of Litchi was great abare and corner oki and spam j.C

[GreyFox86]

Wow, way to seriously tone down Litchi. I really don't like the fact that CH 6B/j.C can't wall bounce anymore. I guess if those can't wall bounce, then nothing will.

[Urichinan]

I'm fine with all the changes except for Ittsu, j.C, j.C[m] and 3C[m].

Those are her main tools, both in CT and CS, I don't mind if they are gobe. But I would certainly hope they keep them in a more balanced manner. =^-^=

[SoliDeoGloria]

My concern at this point is, I'm not even sure where they want Litchi to go. Obviously she's not supposed to be a big damage character with itsuu and j.C nerfs. She's not supposed to do mix-up with 6A and 4D nerfs. She's not supposed to be zoning since 6B[m] and j.C[m] were nerfed... Are they trying to just turn Litchi into Jam who can also use a stick sometimes just 'cause? The staffless gatling changes are the only things that seem to say "We want Litchi to be doing this."

Just kinda wondering what direction she's headed, that's the only thing early testing is good for, getting an impression of the direction for future changes, but I'm not seeing anything here.

[Kenny tuty]

where she goes is simple. With big hit, she gets corner oki with stuffless. with small hit, she get mid screen oki.

So what they did is taking off the carrying combo and advanced corner mix up. She became simple.

What she does is, especially in CT,

"poking around and something counter hits, or 5B hits, you carry them into corner with 3K damage, do the mix up. If you have meter, the mix up will be amazing."

they took the middle off and made simple. I think this is what they want us to do with the first loketest litchi.

Obviously this will be boring for Litchi players who has always been using litchi tho.

[Kenny tuty]

oh, and the new gatling is 2B-5B. you can't do 5B-2B-5B, but still this is a good change.

and you can lunch stick without motion if you are running. She could do that all the time, but now the running doesn't have to be long, it's like instant.

[Lord Knight]

2b > 5b, i like this

however, im fucked!!!!

i cnat win w/o overhead

[kenn305]

Yeah the new litchi will be very interesting. But she still need mixups or she will become cs Noel... But I will still play with her and I should really change my sig....

[GenoWhirl]

ライチ使いの自虐で飯がうまい

So what does this mean

[Lord Knight]

Some of these changes suck, but the tier drop does put me at ease; no more accusations of tierwhoring, it's back to my loctest CT days... but it looks so bad for her right now ^^;;

Welp, time to make up damage in Resets!

You don't know her tier yet :/

[McArthur]

i really feel sorry for litchi, i just hope the changes for now won't be final

"don't break what's 'broken', you should 'fix' it"

=)

[MiraclePizza]

As long as they don't make her mechanically boring as a character.

[lunaris]

ライチ使いの自虐で飯がうまい

So what does this mean

it's just shit talk/trolling(if i understand it correctly) not unlike some of the posts in this thread. using equivalent internet slang, "litchi main tears are delicious" is not far from its meaning(although far from literal). i'd go further in depth but it would be a waste of space.

[kenn305]

Any new updates?

[ATGMantenbo]

My comments on Day 2 changes:

Can combo off CH Ryuuisou:

80% of the time, it's gonna be a CH

6B[m] CH - wallbounce removed:

TK itsuuB looking good for a follow up

2C-4D-hakuchunhatsu-riichiA-B-6B-D-JC-6C-ittsuC-JB-JB-JC-hatsuchun - 3700 damage

4D causing slide in general is good in the corner but not in midscreen

3C - air tech possible (no follow up):

4D > 2D - works. Can continue with 6C if close enough:

ok looks like a nice follow up midscreen; it seems they nerfed 4D that it is not safe on block(or less safe) unless u rapid but you can combo off it

DP faster. Can't combo after 2nd hit:

DP has become even more useless now; if ur gonna nerf it like that, make it at least FRC'able

J.C CH - Wallbounce removed

basically Jin's j.C now; on CH, land> dash 5B imo

6C[m] - stagger added (think of Rachel 5CC):

this move is useless in general; TK itssuB seems to be a good follow up.

2B > 5B - New gatling (can't do 2b > 5b > 2b):

good

Launch staff while running - less start up than in previous versions:

might prove useful against maybe Arakune.

So the comboability after 6B CH and j.C CH is not entirely gone but rather restricted.

Also 4D is still a good overhead but not too good like in CS.

3C is just garbage at the moment as well as 6A and j.C staffless.

Again, this is only the first loketest and Litchi might drastically change in the next one.

Only thing that I think is very unfair is that j.C staffless is tech-able

[CrazyApe]

Our oki game got pwned:psyduck:

[Poizonous Flour]

Well, at least Litchi is going to be down in the bottom tiers again. What a relief... no more tier whore messages and bad stares...

j.C was an excellent move and a sad nerf, but the rest of the nerfs I can kinda tolerate. I know this is the first loketest, but I'm kinda happy she'll not be OP like she was in CS.

I am probably hoping for too much if I wish for Manten Return to come back, so at least... we can do some kind of pick up off the ground combo for wall carry, but I doubt it. Damage is still looking high for combos, though... so maybe the changes aren't as bad as we thought. Let's just wait and see.

I'll stick Litchi regardless if she becomes worse than CS Rachel. (Though I pray that'll never happen.)

[unsanctifier]

Lol at the complaints, you want a sequel? You want to actually have a reason to play a new game and do new things? You got it. If everyone did the same shit through and through crap would be boring.

I played Rachel in CT and CS, I just saw the changes for what it was, a new game. Jeez.

HeartNana is probably my new found fetish after reading this thread, lol.

Also, Litchi changes are interesting, I didn't mind her brokeness too much, this isn't SF after all, the tier lists aren't THAT all-controlling. The only thing I truly found annoying about CS Litchi was her amazing abare, I couldn't close in at all haha

[Nakkiel]

Well, at least Litchi is going to be down in the bottom tiers again. What a relief... no more tier whore messages and bad stares...

You don't know her tier yet :/

:|

[unsanctifier]

LOL FRC

Your Avatar fits this post rather well!

[HeartNana]

Our oki game got pwned:psyduck:

You do realize that your character's oki game is a big reason you're winning, not your own skill, right? If my character could just toss out a super at the end of a combo and get 4-5 chances to do either low or overheads while the opponent is sitting there forced to block, I would be winning a lot more, too. And no, it wouldn't be attributed to my own skill, either, except the skill involved with picking the right character at the select screen.

Thank god your characters oki game got "owned" (as in, back to the level, and probably still better than most current character's oki game) because it was some of the most retarded shit to pop up in any of the fighting games I've ever played.

[Nakkiel]

don't pull a ct jin there

[Chun]

You don't know her tier yet :/

You know as well as I do she'll theoretically fall some, that's about it if CS2 changes stay in comparison to all other character changes.