BBCS LokeTest 3: Oct. 16th, 2010 Discussion

[smooshman]

snip

but we got 5D.....

with no damage return without meter.

[ansem]

I like the way this loketest turned out, i'm very satisfied with it.

[psycofang2]

anyone who complains about the last 68 pages of this thread know this : even though somewhere you knew that you were going to see stupidity, you read it anyway.

omfg zoner hakuuuuuu. >_< i cant get over this...backwardness...

[BladeOfJustice7]

anyone who complains about the last 68 pages of this thread know this : even though somewhere you knew that you were going to see stupidity, you read it anyway.

omfg zoner hakuuuuuu. >_< i cant get over this...backwardness...

Lol I see me switching mains for the first time in a fighting game, if I wanted a zoning reliant main I would go back to GG with ky and his shit damage output. Who knows I may just switch to jin or valk. Unless he's s tier or top a tier of course.

Can't believe they haven't reverted ANY of his changes since he last loketest, faggots. I'm more salty than the read see right now.

[psycofang2]

we can still piss of lambda

if they get close THEY get zoned out.

EDIT: ky didnt have shit damage. not from what ive seen. but well i dont use Ky, but he "seems" to hold well under most or all situations. but eh...correct me if im wrong about that.

[BladeOfJustice7]

we can still piss of lambda

if they get close THEY get zoned out.

Hmm valid point, who knows hakumen may become more of a troll then hazama is gameplay wise. Never the less, samurais don't zone, their patient >_>, zoning isn't my idea of a patience.

[firesoul1]

Hmm valid point, who knows hakumen may become more of a troll then hazama is gameplay wise. Never the less, samurais don't zone, their patient >_>, zoning isn't my idea of a patience.

Turtleling is not productive either.

[psycofang2]

Turtleling is not productive either.

turtling is watching, undestanding your opponent, his/her habits, how they act under haku pressure, Ibing, blocking, breaking them second by second, learning what they know and using it against them, making them desperate, making them work more than they should, then countering their next attack into big damage. haku is turtling, turtling is patience and understanding. not mashing out block strings like the rest of the cast, n ppl who get mad because "his D is broken" or "he scared to attack" >_>

its called "thinking"

[Antihippy]

we can still piss of lambda

if they get close THEY get zoned out.

Why the fuck would we want to do that?

[psycofang2]

it would be fun to piss them off

get in real close and zone so they cant do much. though im joking around, but it was stated his C is much faster now. 6C block strings.

[zdravkelja]

we can still piss of lambda

if they get close THEY get zoned out.

EDIT: ky didnt have shit damage. not from what ive seen. but well i dont use Ky, but he "seems" to hold well under most or all situations. but eh...correct me if im wrong about that.

Ky had shit damage. One of the worst in the game. Jack of all trades, master of none.

I'm won't say anything for Haku until I see him. I don't like the idea of zoning, but we'll see... I hope they will bring back 6D counter combos.

Like someone sad in Haku's threads, Haku should be fortress, not zoning char.

[BladeOfJustice7]

turtling is watching, undestanding your opponent, his/her habits, how they act under haku pressure, Ibing, blocking, breaking them second by second, learning what they know and using it against them, making them desperate, making them work more than they should, then countering their next attack into big damage. haku is turtling, turtling is patience and understanding. not mashing out block strings like the rest of the cast, n ppl who get mad because "his D is broken" or "he scared to attack" >_>

its called "thinking"

What he said, I like the patience behind his fighting style.

[Antihippy]

it would be fun to piss them off

As in why the fuck do we want to get close to haku.

When we can zone him out with our better zoning.

And piss them off better.

[psycofang2]

Ky had shit damage. One of the worst in the game. Jack of all trades, master of none

hmmm. i figured he was that type of character but, the damage thing hmmmm. guess i was wrong my apologies.

As in why the fuck do we want to get close to haku.

When we can zone him out with our better zoning.

And piss them off better.

but how do you know? O_O?? what if we now have infinite C pressure strings.

(if you are not getting this, im joking around)

[firesoul1]

turtling is watching, undestanding your opponent, his/her habits, how they act under haku pressure, Ibing, blocking, breaking them second by second, learning what they know and using it against them, making them desperate, making them work more than they should, then countering their next attack into big damage. haku is turtling, turtling is patience and understanding. not mashing out block strings like the rest of the cast, n ppl who get mad because "his D is broken" or "he scared to attack" >_>

its called "thinking"

So by that you mean I can totally be effective just by catching them off guard?

[Antihippy]

hmmm. i figured he was that type of character but, the damage thing hmmmm. guess i was wrong my apologies.

but how do you know? O_O?? what if we now have infinite C pressure strings.

(if you are not getting this, im joking around)

Same. :P

[psycofang2]

So by that you mean I can totally be effective just by catching them off guard?

its not really catching them off guard, i call that luck.

its more shutting down their options and establishing some good or extreme levels of control over the fight. he is a moving steel wall that can counter your offense if you are too predictable, being too slow, being stupid? he is ment to defend, think and counter attack.

holy crap almost 100 pages?

[firesoul1]

its not really catching them off guard, i call that luck.

its more shutting down their options and establishing some good or extreme levels of control over the fight. he is a moving stell wall that can counter your offense if you are too predictable, being too slow, being stupid? he is ment to defend, think and counter attack.

holy crap almost 100 pages?

I'm not one for much thinking. All my haku does is simple jabs and kicks with Hotaku or Renka when I can. If anything my luck with him comes when D countering or blocking things on reaction.

[psycofang2]

-_- i will not judge you...

but heres the thing, vs good players say...nineball for example (ive fought him a ton lately) that tactic will not work.

a solid strategy beats a simple tactic. even if he is your sub, learning the full capabilities of what a specific character requires is essential to mastering that character.

now what i do online is the exact opposite of what i do offlne though. unless i know im in control from the start.

[LordSpectreX]

I always thought turtling was being very defensive, punishing approaches by the opponent. Kinda like Hazama or Rachel.

[firesoul1]

-_- i will not judge you...

but heres the thing, vs good players say...nineball for example (ive fought him a ton lately) that tactic will not work.

a solid strategy beats a simple tactic. even if he is your sub, learning the full capabilities of what a specific character requires is essential to mastering that character.

now what i do online is the exact opposite of what i do offlne though. unless i know im in control from the start.

How come haku looks as though he needs very little experience to make him work? Sometimes I do good things without even realizing it.

I would look at the forum for his combos but I'm afraid that I'll end up being more confused than when I started

[Edge Reaper]

So they already have changese for Valkenhayn?

With Valkenhayn coming in so late for the 360, is there really a point to learning the character when there's already gonna be changes for him?

[psycofang2]

I always thought turtling was being very defensive, punishing approaches by the opponent. Kinda like Hazama or Rachel.

i said that already. in the page before this 1 the 3rd post. ;_;

How come haku looks as though he needs very little experience to make him work? Sometimes I do good things without even realizing it.

I would look at the forum for his combos but I'm afraid that I'll end up being more confused than when I started

hakumen is easy to learn but under higher level play it becomes apparent that he has glaring weaknesses, making defense and analyzation even more imperative than before. he can make stuff work sure, but when you are fighting good experienced players they can easily shut you down. and learning his combos are essential to understand what the highest damage you can get off in a tight situation, if you choose to do so.

[Synthesis]

I'm sick of the idiots that blazblue has brought in. =/ It might be SFIV though. Anyways, my thoughts:

Mu is dead.

Makoto is dead.

Jin is stupid.

Lambda sounds interesting...

Skye, FU and Blade are the worst people on here.

These threads should be closed to the public.

Thanks.

[LordSpectreX]

You call people idiots and yet you're calling Jin stupid. Unless you were trying to be ironic.

And sorry psyco, I read not good. :p