mAc Chaos Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 I wonder how much longer before I make a combo thread. I feel like there haven't been enough yet.
itsme Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 Man, I was wondering how the Hotaru > ad OD > falling j2C/jB combos were going to look. That is the funniest Hakumen combo I have ever seen.
BladeOfJustice7 Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 I wonder how much longer before I make a combo thread. I feel like there haven't been enough yet. 3 Options: 1. Make thread NAO. But you'll need to capture and time stamp all combos, which will be tedious. Coupled with the fact, that no one will have any use for them, none of us are in japan. And those who live in Japan already know the combos we'd be posting. 2. Give the game a full month from its release date, so approx the end of December. by then people usually have figured out the basic bnbs, intermediate bnbs, and advanced bnbs. And it would make it easier to compile them as opposed to constantly changing combos because someone discovered something new. 3. Just wait till the game is announced or released in NA. I think dioxide said she'd record the combos you take note of no? To be honest with you, I mostly skim matches or keep Hakumen matches to a minimum so I don't suck in CSEX, which I'll be playing for a good while. Man, I was wondering how the Hotaru > ad OD > falling j2C/jB combos were going to look. That is the funniest Hakumen combo I have ever seen. It's interesting how hotaru is easier to follow up now due to how high you are after doing it, and you maintain your momentum during your airdash when you activate OD. Also yes, if you want big damage zantetsu (after a confirmed hit) or, less so, renka(1)>kishuu>stuff. But If I understand properly zantetsu doesn't prorate so it can be done at any point in a combo for raw damage. The second hit also has vacuum effect making I easy to combo off of, from anywhere on the screen regardless of spacing. Though I don't understand why combos have a lot of zanetetsu(1)>CT>stuff, why not allow the second hit to continue, is Hakumen's CT too slow to combo off of zantetsu's second hit?
itsme Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 Zantetsu does get prorated. It just doesn't get affected by Hakumen's 60% combo rate during damage calculation along with his Crush Trigger, Tsubaki and Shippu, though it loses it during Mugen while the others minus CT doesn't. Also, I don't think there are any reasons to make a combo thread yet when a good majority of us don't even have our hands on the game.
Skeletal Minion Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 Zantetsu ignoring the 60% char combo prorate only occurs on the first hit IIRC, plus the second hit has meh proration. Makes sense to do Zan(1) > CT or Kishuu.
Ctrlaltwtf Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 Zantetsu ignoring the 60% char combo prorate only occurs on the first hit IIRC, plus the second hit has meh proration. Makes sense to do Zan(1) > CT or Kishuu. Yeah I'm not sure how I feel about Zantetsu ever since they changed it. The second hit feels completely worthless now. We already have a move that's beneficial to cancel the first hit, it's called Renka. Although truth be told it did make Zantetsu a hell of a lot scarier as a surprise overhead. I remember how it used to be like "oh no he hit me with Zantetsu quick A+B+C+D before the second hit kills me!" Now it's just like "splat you're dead." Nothing like killing people instantly from 15% HP with Zantetsu/Tsubaki :D
itsme Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 Yeah I'm not sure how I feel about Zantetsu ever since they changed it. The second hit feels completely worthless now. We already have a move that's beneficial to cancel the first hit, it's called Renka. Pretty much considering Zan(1) airbornes the opponent now too. I guess we can still use it for Zan(1) whiff > Zan(2) hit gimmicks but I suppose they left it in there so Hakumen won't just get free 4k+ combos with just 3 stars. I like that we can actually use it as a combo part now and not just a surprise overhead.
mAc Chaos Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 > Now it's just like "splat you're dead." More like "time to zan-" COUNTER
Isuna Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 Zantetsu does get prorated. It just doesn't get affected by Hakumen's 60% combo rate during damage calculation along with his Crush Trigger, Tsubaki and Shippu, though it loses it during Mugen while the others minus CT doesn't. You can't CT during Mugen anyway. Yeah I'm not sure how I feel about Zantetsu ever since they changed it. The second hit feels completely worthless now. We already have a move that's beneficial to cancel the first hit, it's called Renka. Second hit has vacuum effect, so it easier to combo of if you are doing Zantetsu at max range. Also, Renka lost its bonus proration so Renka is not as beneficial to cancel anymore.
LegendaryRath Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 (edited) Zan is pretty easy to combo off of now, I saw something where someone got 3.7k without extra stars. As for why people like to cancel it with something like CT is because the second hit kills proration to a good extent. I might be wrong about that, but I'm fairly certain. Mac, I wouldn't worry about making a combo thread right now unless you really want to. People are still figuring stuff out. It would be a shame for anyone to spend so much time on something like a combo thread just to change everything later on. I would say to wait until the japanese console release so some people on DL will be playing it. At the very least, I would wait a little while longer. Oh ya, and I plan on importing the japanese console release as soon as it comes out (whenever that is, and also assuming it isn't going to be region locked). I have good recording equipment so if you need any video to accompany the thread, I can help out. I feel pretty confident that I should be able to do any combo or tech you want to show off. I did something similar for Mitsuru if you want to take a look. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsAwXzoAigA Intended to do one for Kanji as well, but I got lazy and people stopped being active on that forum. Edited December 2, 2012 by LegendaryRath
LegendaryRath Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 (edited) 4.5k off 2D with 4 stars. Skip to 13:28 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ1hUNyuzeQ&feature=youtu.be Also found this. He does two strong corner combos in a row for 5k+ and 4k+. Doesn't use j.5C > 5C > 2C for the loop, instead uses j.2C > 5A > j.2A > j.2C. I'm sure it would probably be much better to use j.5C for the wallstick. It seems that the combo he does would work midscreen, which would be pretty great. Skip to 24:00 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6ButUC01E4&feature=g-user-u Edited December 2, 2012 by LegendaryRath
BladeOfJustice7 Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 I just hope it comes out for 360. It will. 4.5k off 2D with 4 stars. Skip to 13:28 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ1hUNyuzeQ&feature=youtu.be I'm loving the combo potential for thsi version of Hakumen. I just wish he had more deterring counters. Also found this. He does two strong corner combos in a row for 5k+ and 4k+. Doesn't use j.5C > 5C > 2C for the loop, instead uses j.2C > 5A > j.2A > j.2C. I'm sure it would probably be much better to use j.5C for the wallstick. It seems that the combo he does would work midscreen, which would be pretty great. Skip to 24:00 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6ButUC01E4&feature=g-user-u Yes j2a loops that loop hard and lead to immense damage in the corner. I'm so excited. So anyone thinks hakumen has the most badass CT in the game? I do, I'm also glad he grabs and takes his scabbard off, because I was also wondering how he would sit down
C0R Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 4.5k off 2D with 4 stars. Skip to 13:28 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ1hUNyuzeQ&feature=youtu.be Also found this. He does two strong corner combos in a row for 5k+ and 4k+. Doesn't use j.5C > 5C > 2C for the loop, instead uses j.2C > 5A > j.2A > j.2C. I'm sure it would probably be much better to use j.5C for the wallstick. It seems that the combo he does would work midscreen, which would be pretty great. Skip to 24:00 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6ButUC01E4&feature=g-user-u Stop saying "skip to"! http://youtubetime.com/
dioxideUniversa Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 (edited) because I was also wondering how he would sit down by hunkering forward with his elbows on his knees like a manly man? "skip to"! http://youtubetime.com/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ1hUNyuzeQ&feature=youtu.be http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ1hUNyuzeQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ1hUNyuzeQ#t=13m28s #t=13m28s! science! :I Edited December 2, 2012 by dioxideUniversa
Skeletal Minion Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 ^Timestamp links are a good idea, but I'd like to humbly request that people still include the actual time to skip to in their posts. Timestamp links don't work on Tapatalk (phone app I and others use to browse DL), so we must still manually skip. 4.5k from 2D? NIIIIIIIIIIIICE. On CT, I think Hakumen will be a guard crushing machine considering he gets 2 stars WAY faster than other chars get 25%, meaning we can CT much more often. I'll be able to run my GC 6C shenanigans, but with a much better attack :D
mAc Chaos Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 Well, he uses CT in a lot of combos though, so it's not like we're going to be having that many stars to spare... going to be needing to save those CTs for when we actually land a hit. Still will be useful though.
LegendaryRath Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 Stop saying "skip to"! http://youtubetime.com/ I was wondering how people did that, thanks. "The more you know"
BladeOfJustice7 Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 (edited) by hunkering forward with his elbows on his knees like a manly man? Genius :o Well, he uses CT in a lot of combos though, so it's not like we're going to be having that many stars to spare... going to be needing to save those CTs for when we actually land a hit. Still will be useful though. >Uses his Agito to get past people's defenses >Uses CT to combo from Agito after he's gotten through their defense lolirony. EDIT: Isuna, what does Hakumen say when he does his CT, both in Japanese and directly translated English. It's so badass xD Edited December 2, 2012 by BladeOfJustice7
Spark Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 I was wondering how people did that, thanks. "The more you know" You can right click on the youtube video and pick get url at current time also.
BladeOfJustice7 Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 You can right click on the youtube video and pick get url at current time also. This reminds me, mAc do you have any specific scumbag tools against rachel? I could use some.
LegendaryRath Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 You can right click on the youtube video and pick get url at current time also. That's even better
Isuna Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 Isuna, what does Hakumen say when he does his CT, both in Japanese and directly translated English. It's so badass xD Never thought of... *goes checking* *the combo movie before last has been removed* "How do I find CT!?" School now
BladeOfJustice7 Posted December 3, 2012 Posted December 3, 2012 @Isuna: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKa4f84q6lc and for voice set two when he does it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=4XzmS1WMpgg#t=189s
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