RaveDX Posted December 10, 2010 Posted December 10, 2010 Talking about tiers without a comparison to another character is like pointing a gun directly at your own critical thinking ability And of course, we don't know almost anything about any character. So again, tiers is pretty moot for discussion. yeah I know, I was just trying to be stupid :P. But with great mixup, good mid screen damage and corner rape, Ide say Bang is pretty high up there, no?
Dacidbro Posted December 10, 2010 Posted December 10, 2010 As long as there's no one like CS1 Tao or Litchi, he is looking rather amazing, currently more so than most other's I have seen. But that could be temporary, til other combos are discovered.
huey253 Posted December 10, 2010 Posted December 10, 2010 hopefully bang doesn't still have random jA into 3k dmg. that shit is silly
RaveDX Posted December 11, 2010 Posted December 11, 2010 hopefully bang doesn't still have random jA into 3k dmg. that shit is silly Thats pretty much impossible without 623b wall bounce.
Nakkiel Posted December 11, 2010 Posted December 11, 2010 we don't know almost anything about any character. what did you just say to me
zeth07 Posted December 11, 2010 Posted December 11, 2010 Bang will EASILY go S tier again :D ... Talking about tiers without a comparison to another character is like pointing a gun directly at your own critical thinking ability And of course, we don't know almost anything about any character. So again, tiers is pretty moot for discussion. Then Ide say Bang is pretty high up there, no? As long as there's no one like CS1 Tao or Litchi, he is looking rather amazing, currently more so than most other's I have seen. But that could be temporary, til other combos are discovered. Aren't you basically saying the same thing he said that you just got on him for but with different words? Or am I the only one seeing it? RaveDX: Bang's looking high tier Dacid: That's stupid you can't judge tiers this early Dacid: Bang's looking pretty amazing compared to everyone else. ?????
Kyosuke Kagami Posted December 11, 2010 Posted December 11, 2010 >>5k >>4k Oh well, at least dat shit got less damage. Dealing with Bang will be easier
huey253 Posted December 11, 2010 Posted December 11, 2010 Then Aren't you basically saying the same thing he said that you just got on him for but with different words? Or am I the only one seeing it? RaveDX: Bang's looking high tier Dacid: That's stupid you can't judge tiers this early Dacid: Bang's looking pretty amazing compared to everyone else. ????? I SEE IT TOO!!!!
RaveDX Posted December 11, 2010 Posted December 11, 2010 (edited) Then Aren't you basically saying the same thing he said that you just got on him for but with different words? Or am I the only one seeing it? RaveDX: Bang's looking high tier Dacid: That's stupid you can't judge tiers this early Dacid: Bang's looking pretty amazing compared to everyone else. ????? WHO CARES! All that matters is that Bang's looking so god damn sexy!!! So has anyone found how 5d can combo into daifunk yet? Im really curious in how that works out... I remember someone said 5d had wall bounce attributes now, is that why? Edited December 11, 2010 by RaveDX
zeth07 Posted December 11, 2010 Posted December 11, 2010 So has anyone found how 5d can combo into daifunk yet? Im really curious in how that works out... I remember someone said 5d had wall bounce attributes now, is that why? Probably works like how it works off 6D, but either the wall bounce or just the speed of it.
SlyStrife Posted December 11, 2010 Posted December 11, 2010 5D has wall bounce properties on CH only, that's why I was asking about those crouching combos. It lists 5D>Daifunka in mid combo but not the specifics, I'm guessing you would have to jump cancel the 5D like you would when doing 6D>Daifunka.
Justice7541 Posted December 11, 2010 Posted December 11, 2010 What I'd rather like to know is how a slow move like Daifunka could possibly hit them after a 5D launch, unless the untech time is so long that they fall back into it, which seems rather unlikely.
crystalwind Posted December 11, 2010 Posted December 11, 2010 Well, I guess there are some kind of changes on 5D's normal ground hit. And it seems 5D into daifunka does not require j.c.c. technique.
Dacidbro Posted December 11, 2010 Posted December 11, 2010 I said that, right now, with no idea what is happening with other characters, Bang looks quite good. But my experienced history with tiers tells me to wait until we know damn near anything about other characters.
huey253 Posted December 11, 2010 Posted December 11, 2010 (edited) i called taokaka beating up bang a hella long time ago EDIT: I guess nobody else in america has taokaka experience though... Edited December 11, 2010 by huey253
Justice7541 Posted December 11, 2010 Posted December 11, 2010 i called taokaka beating up bang a hella long time ago EDIT: I guess nobody else in america has taokaka experience though... Tao vs. Bang has always been a bad matchup. We'll see how it turns out this time.
Dacidbro Posted December 11, 2010 Posted December 11, 2010 With how bad she seems to have been nerfed, hopefully not ^_^
huey253 Posted December 11, 2010 Posted December 11, 2010 stunedge and JBBS both report bang being C tier i guess bang's normals have hella pushback now lolol
Dacidbro Posted December 11, 2010 Posted December 11, 2010 Ahh, then he will require immense creativity on offense. I don't think that's entirely a bad thing.
huey253 Posted December 11, 2010 Posted December 11, 2010 i'm not whining. Bang might be bad enough that bumpers will be more worth it
NumeroGaijin Posted December 12, 2010 Posted December 12, 2010 Ahh, then he will require immense creativity on offense. I don't think that's entirely a bad thing. I agree with this. Because the essence of Bang's gameplay revolves around the players creativity. Seeing how no true Bang pressure tactic should be the same I see lots of potential in the new mixups and mind games that will ensue once ppl get used to playing him. All I think they did was give you even better reasons to use everything he has. In short, no matter the changes we Bang's will adjust accordingly.
Justice7541 Posted December 12, 2010 Posted December 12, 2010 If it's just the pressure I can't see it hurting him that much especially with IB nerf and his normals at least being way better than in CT (lol at how unsafe all his shit was in CT). The damage is a bigger problem, especially if he can't 6C j.D off 5A. Then again I haven't heard anything about him not being able to. Seals > damage any day of the week. The one video I saw the guy was only doing 5A 5B 2B 6C 623B, dunno if that means j.D doesn't work now. Also lol 18/19-frame 5D looks hilarious.
iw2ma Posted December 12, 2010 Posted December 12, 2010 I'm not gonna lie, i cannot wait to see a CS2 Bang combo video. The way he's looking now some seriously crazy stuff will go down.
zeth07 Posted December 12, 2010 Posted December 12, 2010 I gotta say the no wall bounce mid-screen Fire Punch looks stupid. Can't really comment on anything else since we only have 1 video so far. Just going by the info doesn't really do much for me since not a lot has been figured out yet.
BangisMyHomeboy Posted December 12, 2010 Posted December 12, 2010 I'm not going to fully judge on how I feel about this until a) we get more videos or b) I play with Bang myself but I ain't too thrilled about what I've heard or seen.
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