[CSE] Hakumen Video Thread

[ryokoalways]

Yukikaze spam is a bit rampant right now because

1. It catches low now.

2. It's more ambiguous.

3. It's an substitute for jD

Remember, you had two types of Hakumen player in CS1, the real ones, and the jD spammers. What you are seeing is probably jD spammers.

Out of curiosity, has anyone optimized low magatama carry pieces yet? As good as hotaru>AD is, it takes too many magatamas to be reliable for most situations (unless the distance limitation isn't as severe as I'm making it out to be). The only variation I know of is 5A>6A>5A push, which isn't bad but doesn't really give you a good position after both of the players recover.

Edited May 8, 2011 by ryokoalways

[Sophisticat]

Awesome, material to add to the CS2 combo thread. I'll get to work on it once I have time. :D

Best low mag carry, as far as I've seen, seems to be: [stuff] -> 5a -> 6a -> 5a -> j.2a -> AD j.2a -> j.C

Hotaru has great carry potential all on its own, but I can't say if it's efficient. FC can lead to some great damage + corner if your position on-screen is right for it.

[ryokoalways]

looking for a hotaru opening is unreliable. Any variation of X>renka>kishuu>2C>hotaru>AD cost too many magatama (not to mention the spacing between renka and hotaru cause a prolonged meter gain stoppage, causing even more problems).

Besides the one already listed, the only other thing is the old anything into enma, but losing jC>jC takes that back to CT level carry.

Has anyone tried enma>j2C>5C>kishuu>2C>j2A? WIth the better proration, it may be possible to score a legit knockdown through that and get a reliable mix-up game at the middle of the screen.

[Kurushii]

BBCS2 Hakumen 6-10 Challenges: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwJqM3b2AY4

[zreb]

whoops been busy/lazy here's catchup from the cs2 vid post thread:

4/30 Amegura 3 on 3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izsb9801W90#t=0m42s nata kishi vs. Ragna

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izsb9801W90#t=4m50s vs. Makoto

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyuQVCtOc0A#t=10m12s chibaken vs. Jin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb-e8A118SY#t9m14s sodomu vs. Hazama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=752KSLkvBhg#t=0m10s sodomu vs. Ragna

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc2pPqDDgKs#t=0m05s vs. Mu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc2pPqDDgKs#t=3m13s vs. Valk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc2pPqDDgKs#t=6m50s vs. Litchi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc2pPqDDgKs#t=9m10s vs. Valk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz9tJV4gE8A#t=9m15s vs. Valk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz9tJV4gE8A#t=11m45s sodomu vs. previous haku

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AUA-Iw-Z6g#t=0m15s sodomu vs. Hazama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AUA-Iw-Z6g#t=2m30s vs. Jin

4/30 Chariot ranbat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wGqta5gi-c#t=11m vs Plat, dunno the name

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQgSAQJcM80#t=0m15s vs. Arakune

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Znc1tL-E3A#t=7m01s vs. Noel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Znc1tL-E3A#t=9m34s vs. Hazama

Edited May 11, 2011 by zreb

[MAdBater]

BBCS2 - Hakumen Gameplay Changes Overview

by MrMiddleKick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGOMF9SGI_g&feature=feedu

I personal like this guys commentary because he tries to educate even when he shows matches.

[zreb]

a-cho 3on3 ranbat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtrN1cq4hvM#t=61m20s vs. Jin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u2nie0TGoM#t=7m48s V E L? vs. Rachel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u2nie0TGoM#t=25m30s vs. Arakune

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u2nie0TGoM#t=41m35s vs. Mu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u2nie0TGoM#t=101m49s vs. Tager

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u2nie0TGoM#t=110m55s vs. Arakune

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2IFj3iILqo#t=8m30s Kakyuu vs. Rachel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2IFj3iILqo#t=12m55s vs. Makoto

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8Q15QMTmyQ#t=2m47s Kakyuu vs. Arakune

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8Q15QMTmyQ#t=5m54s vs. Makoto

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8Q15QMTmyQ#t=11m39s vs. Ragna

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8Q15QMTmyQ#t=26m26s Kakyuu vs. Makoto

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8Q15QMTmyQ#t=30m02s vs. Litchi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8Q15QMTmyQ#t=33m19s Haku mirror

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8Q15QMTmyQ#t=37m43s vs. Tsubaki

Edited May 13, 2011 by zreb

[BladeOfJustice7]

After my summer school midterms thursday I'll get around to adding the videos in this thread.

[zreb]

more a-cho 3on3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYFIABUaNvk#t=8m26s vs. Rachel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYFIABUaNvk#t=12m49s vs. Tsubaki

[zreb]

a-cho 3on3 no. 12

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh5XhjhCIXo#t=40m58s vs. Jin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh5XhjhCIXo#t=42m30s vs. Jin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh5XhjhCIXo#t=46m05s vs. Arakune

Edited May 16, 2011 by zreb

[Sophisticat]

Zreb, you've been pretty constant with the video uploads of late. Much appreciated.

[zreb]

i live to serve

5/4 Chariot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfX1LakZMfc#t=7m37s vs. Lambda (is... that a phone number?!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSNb5GDfQfM#t=3m42s hakuphone vs. Tager

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-Ruqsx4oEE haku mirror (furukutoosu.. fructose?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-Ruqsx4oEE#t=2m44s vs. Rachel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xug2v9pXdSc vs. Ragna

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xug2v9pXdSc#t=3m38s vs. Litchi

4/30 Rinrin Singles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIVmjMrpVL4 FT vs. Mu

Edited May 17, 2011 by zreb

[itsme]

Yeah that's Fructose.

edit: I just google'd the phone number too. I laughed heartily when I saw it was from Hanasaku Iroha.

Edited May 18, 2011 by itsme

[rtl42]

i googled the phone number, it's apparently some anime reference. no big surprise there.

[ryokoalways]

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm14475841

Apologies if someone has posted this already, but there is a small section in the latter part of the vid that has Fuzzy guard. It's only one variation (ignore the starter>j2A btw, that's just junk), and you can also fuzzy with 5B. I still want to know if 5A qualifies.

Everything else in the vid has been done already I believe.

[zreb]

Checked 5a and it doesn't seem to work for fuzzy.

[Sophisticat]

Power of Order uploaded to YT.

I've seen 5a used to set up j.b -> Tsubaki in the corner, but I'm not sure if it's a fuzzy.

[zreb]

5/15 Hyougo Koube ranbat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mweYV7QuCo#t=8m15s aki vs. Rachel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOUSe5Y_oQo#t=2m39s vs. Rachel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOUSe5Y_oQo#t=7m19s vs. Bang

[zreb]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMp2i3xukSY#t=7m15s takosu vs. Noel

[zreb]

5/21 Tougeki qualifiers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pSVgklAJwc#t=3m45s vs. Noel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dN8Yaq7va4 vs. Tsubaki

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gttmUDxoAE vs. Lambda

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gttmUDxoAE#t=5m36s vs. Jin

Edited May 23, 2011 by zreb

[itsme]

Solid Hakumen but this guy is a good example on how your opponent's can bait your catches.

[Arcknight]

Unfortunately both of those last two videos you linked Zreb have been removed.

[zreb]

Should be fixed now!

Edited May 23, 2011 by zreb

[Arcknight]

Thanks for the fix. Definitely some awesome videos of a strong Haku player.

[Sophisticat]

5/21 Tougeki qualifiers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gttmUDxoAE#t=5m36s vs. Jin

@7:00: Nice example that shows how a reversal combo can work in-match. Very practical and turns the table.

Too bad he didn't go for Renka(1) -> Kishuu -> 6c off that 3c CH, or even Gurren -> 5b off the 2b after. He'd have won.