TagerTime Posted May 31, 2011 Posted May 31, 2011 I wish CH state would carry from the sledge to the followup. you mean sledge to the hammer
Osuna Posted May 31, 2011 Posted May 31, 2011 Hey guys, I don't have time to test this today, so I thought I'd ask. If someone is falling into an active throw can they reversal (grounded)dp out of it?
FlyingVe Posted May 31, 2011 Posted May 31, 2011 (edited) Nope. This is why you can punish a blocked burst (in the air) with a 360/720. Edit: Also, I believe this game has a 3f landing recovery. Edited May 31, 2011 by FlyingVe
Manta Posted May 31, 2011 Posted May 31, 2011 Hey guys, I don't have time to test this today, so I thought I'd ask. If someone is falling into an active throw can they reversal (grounded)dp out of it? Depends on what you mean by falling. If you mean an empty jump then lol, they got thrown. if you mean falling from a hit and bounce teching, then yes, they can DP or just hold up as they tech.
A.X.I.S. Posted May 31, 2011 Author Posted May 31, 2011 If they tech they would fall into the throws active frames before they can act right? Holy crap that's worth testing. I got a question. Why is it that the match up that is the most discussed is Tager vs Tager? Seriously what is up with that? Its a mirror? play your design and you will be fine.
FlyingVe Posted May 31, 2011 Posted May 31, 2011 Most Tager players have no fundamentals and have trouble dealing with their own gimmicks...? Yeah, that sounds about right.
Manta Posted May 31, 2011 Posted May 31, 2011 (edited) If they tech they would fall into the throws active frames before they can act right? Holy crap that's worth testing. I got a question. Why is it that the match up that is the most discussed is Tager vs Tager? Seriously what is up with that? Its a mirror? play your design and you will be fine. Hell yes, 5B in the corner followed up with a throw is great. Timing's strict though, you have to match the active frames of the throw with those 3f of landing recovery. And they don't have to air tech. Edited May 31, 2011 by Manta
FlyingVe Posted May 31, 2011 Posted May 31, 2011 Yeah, thanks to that Air UB 5B Tagers corner pressure is really good now. Like, really good.
A.X.I.S. Posted May 31, 2011 Author Posted May 31, 2011 I use meaty 5C because I like living dangerously. More risk more reward.
FlyingVe Posted May 31, 2011 Posted May 31, 2011 I use 5B because you can go 5B>5C if you catch them jumping, and 5B>2B if they're blocking. Or I'll just do meaty 2B, that's as pro as ever.
A.X.I.S. Posted May 31, 2011 Author Posted May 31, 2011 I do 5C because if they block lol I can walk up and do it again because they are afraid of whatever I can do to them. If they Jump after the first 5C I can AA them. 5C has been my favorite normal in CS2, it eats backdashes and jumps. It loses to mash but most people don't mash when I play Tager so its cool.
FlyingVe Posted May 31, 2011 Posted May 31, 2011 I just wish 5C had a slightly taller hitbox. People get over it when it really doesn't look like they should. That and 5C AA does really juicy damage now. For me, 5C is super pro in some matchup, less so in others. The new 5B hitbox is really nice though, I'm actually using it in footsies now.
A.X.I.S. Posted May 31, 2011 Author Posted May 31, 2011 I haven't messed with 5B too much but I did use it to bait DP's.
Mucky Posted May 31, 2011 Posted May 31, 2011 How has 5B's hitbox changed? It's such a goofy looking little kick that I have a hard time believing it can be used for footsies.
Darlos9D Posted May 31, 2011 Posted May 31, 2011 I just wish 5C had a slightly taller hitbox. People get over it when it really doesn't look like they should. A-fucking-men. One time I had a Hazama airdash THROUGH Tager's arms during 5C. It was a real wtf moment.
WolfCrimson Posted May 31, 2011 Posted May 31, 2011 A-fucking-men. One time I had a Hazama airdash THROUGH Tager's arms during 5C. It was a real wtf moment. Well... Hazama is skinny enough...
A.X.I.S. Posted May 31, 2011 Author Posted May 31, 2011 How has 5B's hitbox changed? It's such a goofy looking little kick that I have a hard time believing it can be used for footsies. 2B and 5B got a hit box buff. I could show it to you guys but then that require time and effort...I used all of that.
A.X.I.S. Posted May 31, 2011 Author Posted May 31, 2011 Oh I got Skye's cam. I am gonna record some online matches and show you guys how silly I am.
CrazyI-nomitsu Posted May 31, 2011 Posted May 31, 2011 (edited) Most Tager players have no fundamentals and have trouble dealing with their own gimmicks...? Yeah, that sounds about right. Why do you have to be right? I kind have the same problem. Not as bad though. Oh I got Skye's cam. I am gonna record some online matches and show you guys how silly I am. Oh noes! The math point is going to teach us some Tager. I'm so tuning in to watch the epicness. Edited May 31, 2011 by CrazyI-nomitsu
A.X.I.S. Posted May 31, 2011 Author Posted May 31, 2011 Don't get too hype, I don't even use all my skills online because I can't. I do have to replays of me herping the hell out of LK. I don't think I wanna upload them since I forgot to save the one that showcased why you shouldn't get hit by Litchi stuff.
CrazyI-nomitsu Posted June 1, 2011 Posted June 1, 2011 But math problem BB online doesn't suck anymore. I can block BS now. So I'm happy....Well the game online still thinks a spark blot/3C is 6C. But it's still good. Wouldn't you agree?
Osuna Posted June 1, 2011 Posted June 1, 2011 2B and 5B got a hit box buff. I could show it to you guys but then that require time and effort...I used all of that.While this doesn't exactly show all there is, but I first noticed it when I was doing 5B 2B repeat at different ranges and was getting more hits before a whiff than I was used to.
FlyingVe Posted June 1, 2011 Posted June 1, 2011 How has 5B's hitbox changed? It's such a goofy looking little kick that I have a hard time believing it can be used for footsies. It's bigger all around. It seems to be stuffing pokes alot. It's bigger than 5A.
A.X.I.S. Posted June 1, 2011 Author Posted June 1, 2011 (edited) Ok guys I have skye's camera. This means you can ask questions and I can answer them...don't post stupid ones. >_> I got 2 replays of me derping LK. I don't think I should post em. Edited June 1, 2011 by A.X.I.S.
Osuna Posted June 1, 2011 Posted June 1, 2011 Guys guys, we should put together that letter I talked about for the Q&A thread, something like "What the logic behind Tagers balance changes? By giving him so many limited use move changes like with the new 6A losing jump cancel, 6B proration/guard primer nerf, 5D/j.D magnet pull changes, forward throw change, and 2C gatling changes make the character very impractical in tournaments. Other changes like 6A having very late armor, make Tager more annoying for new players than before. What is the point of that?" Or something, I dunno, it's hard to complain in the form of a non rhetorical question, really I shouldn't be counted on for this.
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