LunaKage Posted October 14, 2011 Posted October 14, 2011 BBL A cannon 1D BBL = 8k. Best combo. Polka why aren't you Rachel mod anymore?
Chaoschao222 Posted October 14, 2011 Posted October 14, 2011 Because taking TSK's spot of Mod of Empty Space is coo'er.
Kuuhaku Posted October 14, 2011 Author Posted October 14, 2011 Polka why aren't you Rachel mod anymore? I play visual novels more these days than BB. Plus gli and Tari make a good combo, so I feel like things are better this way. I still mostly hang out here though.
Rishtopher Posted October 14, 2011 Posted October 14, 2011 I DO want to play that. It's the first VN I've ever wanted to play. Is it available in English though? I thought it wasn't. =\
Tari Posted October 14, 2011 Posted October 14, 2011 BBL A cannon 1D BBL = 8k. Best combo. 2A 3C 7D BBL 236A 236A 6A BBL SJ 8D j.2DC ~ 9K damage? I don't remember the exact combo anymore, but it was stupid and did stupid damage from 2A starter. I DO want to play that. It's the first VN I've ever wanted to play. Is it available in English though? I thought it wasn't. =\ If you can, er, acquire the game, there's an English patch for everything except the true ending. It's fairly well translated, too, which is nice. Not sure when they'll (or he'll, since it seems to be one person doing all the translation work) finish off the true ending, but yeah. The rest is there.
Rishtopher Posted October 14, 2011 Posted October 14, 2011 >play >visual novel :3 lol, ok, you got me :P And thanks Tari, I'll have to think about it now since part of me is thinking that there's not much point if I can't read teh true ending Also, what does "cannon" mean with keyboard notation? I've seen it somewhere before where someone writes "____ cannon" but I never got what it meant.
Tari Posted October 14, 2011 Posted October 14, 2011 A/B/C cannon refers to 236A/B/C, respectively. Air cannon refers to j.236A/B/C.
TD Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 didnt know you guys felt that way :o now l kinda feel like l was whiny and for no reason. at any rate, thanks again. l probably just need a periodic refresher to keep my game solid and whatnot. i'm going to take you guys' advice as well as look at kro's guide and some matchup threads. something l could have did in the beginning. :> in other news, new 6b ch combo. i'll post it in the combo thread tomorrow. sadly it will not work in cse; but w/e
Rishtopher Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 A/B/C cannon refers to 236A/B/C, respectively. Air cannon refers to j.236A/B/C. Thanks! I'd seen cannon written in some Valk combos too, so I wasn't sure if it was some kind of term for a move or just some kind of method of input.
Chaoschao222 Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 With Valk, I'm all but certain it refers to his WORUFF tackle moves, like 236A
Rishtopher Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 Where in ONtario are you, Rishtopher? Ottawa, aka, Land of NO Arcades. I heard the BB scene is pretty good in Toronto and in Montreal, but no one's ever heard of it here. I don't even think they know anything but MvC and Street Fighter. I've never even had the chance to play anything but SF in an arcade once, but I don't even remember which one it was. With Valk, I'm all but certain it refers to his WORUFF tackle moves, like 236A OH, ok, that would make sense! I'd thought it was like [w]#C for those dashes, but I didn't ask last time. Also, I'm trying to learn how to do those instant overheads with Rachel, like when you 2D>jb for example, but it's the hardest thing ever. Everyone always says Carl's the hardest character to learn, but I find Rachel's inputs really hard for some reason. Like for example in one of her challenges where you have to jC>2D>djC. I think it's the timing combined with inputs going in opposite directions =\
kirbster Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 There's a small BB scene in Ottawa, I've been to one of their tourneys back in the CS1 days and a few of their players recently came to participate in T12. They're not very active but they're always happy to welcome new players. Check out their site. For the instant overhead, try to start off by making them block a jump cancellable move like 5a or 5b, buffer 2d during the blockstun, and do a rising j.a. The wind should keep you from jumping too high and it'll connect.
tofurr Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 With Valk, I'm all but certain it refers to his WORUFF tackle moves, like 236ASpeaking of butler, he's become quite the pain in my ass match-up wise. Also, lol, Sindelain trollin' Tager with 6B.
Kuuhaku Posted October 15, 2011 Author Posted October 15, 2011 Like for example in one of her challenges where you have to jC>2D>djC. I think it's the timing combined with inputs going in opposite directions =\ Uh... no. That's actually the correct notation for it. There are tutorials about this in the combo thread since it's a key point in Rachel's BnBs. If you're doing it correctly, you shouldn't turn around at all. Basically, after you hit them with 5B, you want to delay hitting them with j.C. The longer you delay the j.C the easier it is to do the level two j.2C (though when you can you should learn the best height since to do the level 2 j.2C frog 5B combos, you actually have to be pretty precise on this), then as soon as you see j.C start up... do 2D (you should see the wind when j.C hits) and then jump forward and do j.2C. If it's correct, they should ground bounce. The only point where Rachel probably would turn around (and it is a little confusing because I didn't get why this was coming out wrong when I first learned the combo) is after B cannon hits, you want to make sure you don't overly delay the j.C jc j.C. If you do, Rachel will turn around on landing and BBL won't come out (you'll get sword iris instead or C cannon). But definitely check out the combo thread and the tutorials. They're very helpful.
Rishtopher Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 There's a small BB scene in Ottawa, I've been to one of their tourneys back in the CS1 days and a few of their players recently came to participate in T12. They're not very active but they're always happy to welcome new players. Check out their site. For the instant overhead, try to start off by making them block a jump cancellable move like 5a or 5b, buffer 2d during the blockstun, and do a rising j.a. The wind should keep you from jumping too high and it'll connect. Thanks! I was pressing 2D way too early then it seems. Also I'm familiar with Battle Royale, it's at my school like every year lol. I just don't have time since it's always during when my major assignments are due Uh... no. That's actually the correct notation for it. There are tutorials about this in the combo thread since it's a key point in Rachel's BnBs. If you're doing it correctly, you shouldn't turn around at all. Basically, after you hit them with 5B, you want to delay hitting them with j.C. The longer you delay the j.C the easier it is to do the level two j.2C (though when you can you should learn the best height since to do the level 2 j.2C frog 5B combos, you actually have to be pretty precise on this), then as soon as you see j.C start up... do 2D (you should see the wind when j.C hits) and then jump forward and do j.2C. If it's correct, they should ground bounce. The only point where Rachel probably would turn around (and it is a little confusing because I didn't get why this was coming out wrong when I first learned the combo) is after B cannon hits, you want to make sure you don't overly delay the j.C jc j.C. If you do, Rachel will turn around on landing and BBL won't come out (you'll get sword iris instead or C cannon). But definitely check out the combo thread and the tutorials. They're very helpful. Oh sorry I meant jC>2D>dj2C. Thanks for the help!! I looked at the video tutorial thread which was a great help :P I'll check out the combo thread too. I haven't had the turning around issue so far at least. My biggest problem is D timing, since I can do everything else no problem. I guess what I mean is that it's just hard to always get the timing right. I can do it offline when I practice but in an actual match, even vs the CPU, I can never do even my most simple combos :| I don't mean with just Rachel, I mean with pretty much every character, though with Carl it happens a bit less. Maybe since I'm used to him. I was just saying that I find Rachel to be a lot harder than Carl in general, I think it's because I'm used to pressing and holding D for specific timing but I have to press with Rachel. I have to remember that Wind=Ada lol
[SpA]Relentless Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 Am I the only one who hates the Carl matchup more than the Hazama matchup? -_____-
KoopaDoopa Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 Relentless;1167380']Am I the only one who hates the Carl matchup more than the Hazama matchup? -_____- Nope. For me, Litchi > Carl > Hazama in terms of matchup hatred. Litchi is just nigh impossible D: So is Carl... almost.
Kuuhaku Posted October 16, 2011 Author Posted October 16, 2011 Oh sorry I meant jC>2D>dj2C. Thanks for the help!! I looked at the video tutorial thread which was a great help :P I'll check out the combo thread too. I haven't had the turning around issue so far at least. My biggest problem is D timing, since I can do everything else no problem. I guess what I mean is that it's just hard to always get the timing right. I can do it offline when I practice but in an actual match, even vs the CPU, I can never do even my most simple combos :| I don't mean with just Rachel, I mean with pretty much every character, though with Carl it happens a bit less. Maybe since I'm used to him. I was just saying that I find Rachel to be a lot harder than Carl in general, I think it's because I'm used to pressing and holding D for specific timing but I have to press with Rachel. I have to remember that Wind=Ada lol It's just a matter of getting it down to muscle memory. The more you play, the more you'll get used to it. :3
kirbster Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 The only time I've ever fought a Carl in my life was in a 3v3 team tournament and he OCV'd us And I concur with KoopaDoopa, Litchi matchup is way too hard, fucking dirty WHORE. She even has a portable stripper pole so she can be a skank anytime, anywhere and spread those legs and those STD's. ...well, that was cathartic.
Tari Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 Tager is my worst matchup. :D And you think I'm joking.
Kuuhaku Posted October 16, 2011 Author Posted October 16, 2011 I think fear fighting Spark's Tager more than Hakumen. At least I don't feel terrible when I lose to Hakumen... I just get hotarued in the face. But Tager... it's like- What happened? IDK.
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