Jazzy Posted August 14, 2011 Posted August 14, 2011 I just got into blazblue and i find it really hard to find practice partners, ranked games make it really hard for me to learn, and seem really inefficient with all the downtime. also, it can take forever if i open up my own room, i play someone way better, and they wreck me, but i want to keep playing so i can learn from them. Its just overall really hard for me to get practice. So i did a search for practice partners threads and i was surprised when i didn't see any. I find practicing against the same opponent(or character) is really really helpful, especially if they are better than you. I have no problem losing horribly over and over again, Ive played competitively in other games, so I know to get better you have to get your ass beat regularly, and you have to relearn things. So im Jazzyluvsquake on xbox live, send me a message, and ill be happy to practice with you, and any critique you could give my play, would be greatly appreciated. : ) If anyone else wants to put pleas for practice partners, that would be good too ID: Jazzyluvsquake character: Makoto location: east coast player
LuminAbyss Posted August 14, 2011 Posted August 14, 2011 (edited) This probably belongs in the Beginner Mode forums, but anywho, Cake aside; In all seriousness, try seeing if anyone is playing online by checking the Netplay General thread. This'll help with finding practice online. Also be sure to look at the Match Finder forums near the top to see if your area already has a scene going for you to join for offline play, which is a lot better and more consistent for practice than online. Match Finder: http://www.dustloop.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?36-Match-Finder Current Netplay General: http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?12229-NETPLAYER-GENERAL-JOKETEST-EDITION There are also online tournaments run that you can join in the online section as well. Hope this all helps. EDIT: Also, a lot of character forums have sparring threads or directories for their players. Try stopping by the Makoto forums and checking that out. Edited August 14, 2011 by LuminAbyss
CakeWasBannedd Posted August 14, 2011 Posted August 14, 2011 (edited) you could also try playing offline just saying Edited August 14, 2011 by CakeWasBannedd
KayEff Posted August 14, 2011 Posted August 14, 2011 you could also try playing offline just saying this guy needs to be sponsored
YukiBlue Posted August 14, 2011 Posted August 14, 2011 (edited) Sure, add me and we can hop into party chat and play some. I'm British but the connection is usually alright if it's not at peak times <--- Gamertag Edited August 14, 2011 by YukiBlue
Airk Posted August 14, 2011 Posted August 14, 2011 you could also try playing offline just saying Not everyone has a car and the willingness/ability to drive multiple hours to reach the nearest "scene".
Jazzy Posted August 14, 2011 Author Posted August 14, 2011 not everyone has the time in my case, wish i could go to local scene, too bad the closest local scene isn't even in my state. Also, some people have you know, jobs, and bills to pay :P But i went to the online play forum, seems like a place for random stuff rather than looking for practice partners.
CakeWasBannedd Posted August 14, 2011 Posted August 14, 2011 not everyone has the time in my case, people make time, you could too wish i could go to local scene, too bad the closest local scene isn't even in my state. lots of people are in this situation, plan to go to a tournament when it's happening/organize with other people and ask if they'll give you a ride for gas money/take the bus/etc etc Also, some people have you know, jobs, and bills to pay :P majority of fighting game players are poor college students with loans to repay, jobs to go to, and classes to attend. no fucking excuses, don't give me that shit and act like you're the only person with responsibilities.
YukiBlue Posted August 14, 2011 Posted August 14, 2011 majority of fighting game players are poor college students with loans to repay, jobs to go to, and classes to attend. no fucking excuses, don't give me that shit and act like you're the only person with responsibilities.Overly harsh, but QFT.
Jazzy Posted August 14, 2011 Author Posted August 14, 2011 people make time, you could too lots of people are in this situation, plan to go to a tournament when it's happening/organize with other people and ask if they'll give you a ride for gas money/take the bus/etc etc majority of fighting game players are poor college students with loans to repay, jobs to go to, and classes to attend. no fucking excuses, don't give me that shit and act like you're the only person with responsibilities. Im sorry, I attend college, have a full time job, and am in IT so basically "on call" if a server fucks up or someone cant do their job due to a technical issue. So yeah, 45+ hour weeks plus college classes. I get paid days off, and money isn't the issue, I make a good living. The issue, is why travel for a tournament when I'm gonna get my ass smashed in. I need practice, not some bullshit "truth" that i should play offline with people that are not readily in my area. More practice time= more improvement. A rare weekend tournament every couple of months cause i happened to take Friday or Monday off is not gonna improve my skill. More time practicing = more skill
KayEff Posted August 14, 2011 Posted August 14, 2011 Because you learn the most out of getting your ass smashed in. Tournaments ARE going to improve your skill no matter how rare they are. Skill doesn't deteriorate over time either, so there's no reason not to go to one. It's one thing that you're too poor to participate in a tournament; it's another if you honestly think you won't get anything out of it.
Jazzy Posted August 14, 2011 Author Posted August 14, 2011 yes, you will improve, but not that much, tournaments are proving what you have been practicing at home. Not the other way around. Its like some dude that has played blazblue and can only do some basic BnB will improve drastically on a weekend tournament, no he won't. There not enough play there to actually grasp and start utilizing the information. And frankly, i don't give a shit about tournaments, i play to improve, that's the only reason i play any game. Quake Live, Starcraft 2, etc. etc. I play them to improve, and you improve by consistently playing better players.
CakeWasBannedd Posted August 14, 2011 Posted August 14, 2011 yes, you will improve, but not that much, yes you will. tournaments are proving what you have been practicing at home. not really. practicing at home is a small part of BB. once you've mastered combos, setups, etc you have to actually learn how to play people, which is done by playing people at tournaments irl. Its like some dude that has played blazblue and can only do some basic BnB will improve drastically on a weekend tournament, no he won't. YES HE WILL. playing real people and figuring out what moves to avoid, how to move around, which moves your character has that are good, asking for advice from better players than you, etc etc will help you improve IMMENSELY in a short amount of time. There not enough play there to actually grasp and start utilizing the information. yes there is, a weekend playing nearly nonstop is tons of time to learn the game. And frankly, i don't give a shit about tournaments, so you don't want to improve? i play to improve, wat. I play them to improve, and you improve by consistently playing better players. by going to tournaments, yes. what it comes down to is, are you willing to put time and effort into improving at blazblue? if you're not, by all means, play netplay and never go to tournaments. if you DO want to play competitively and become good, then you need to play offline. bottom line.
superscience890 Posted August 14, 2011 Posted August 14, 2011 Think about tournaments this way. They're an oppurtunity to play with other people that you wouldn't be able to play with online or offline. You could get valuable match up experience with a character that you normally never see. And not only that but you get to meet other people that also play online and you can exchange contact info and then play online. A tournament isn't just about the tournament itself but the casuals that you play there are really important TL;DR - going to tournament gives you valuable experience and helps you make connections. Going to tournaments aren't just for the tournament.
hakimiru Posted August 14, 2011 Posted August 14, 2011 >Cake The thing is he's not at that level yet. If you read his first post, he does mention that he just got into Blazblue after all. At his stage, he probably just needs to plan randoms a lot to get a better feel for his character and the matchups, which was the whole point of the OP. Don't really see where all this bashing comes in...
Mindgam3 Posted August 14, 2011 Posted August 14, 2011 (edited) you improve by consistently playing better players. Well, unfortunately, the better fighting game players typically play offline whenever they can, wherever they can. They also seem to traditionally go to tournaments. However, even if that wasn't the case, playing offline is the difference between playing someone one or two matches before they quit, or playing them for an extended set of maybe 20 matches or more with constructive feedback as to what they're doing, why they're doing it, what you're doing right, and what you could do better. You can solely netplay and become good, but your rate of improvement will be markedly slower than the people who play with their friends (who also want to improve) or those who travel to play the game with others. Just food for thought. Edited August 14, 2011 by Mindgam3
CakeWasBannedd Posted August 14, 2011 Posted August 14, 2011 Well, unfortunately, the better fighting game players typically play offline whenever they can, wherever they can. They also seem to traditionally go to tournaments. However, even if that wasn't the case, playing offline is the difference between playing someone one or two matches before they quit, or playing them for an extended set of maybe 20 matches or more with constructive feedback as to what they're doing, why they're doing it, what you're doing right, and what you could do better. You can solely netplay and become good, but your rate of improvement will be markedly slower than the people who play with their friends (who also want to improve) or those who travel to play the game with others. Just food for thought. hi my name is cake and i approve this message
YukiBlue Posted August 14, 2011 Posted August 14, 2011 The only excuse not to play offline is if you live in the UK. Everyone here plays CoD and FIFA. Net play still helps, and it's fun, you get better the more you play, the only advantage offline has is the fact you have real people to converse with, I would kill to have real friends who played blazblue competitively. Americans take that shit for granted.
Circuitous Posted August 14, 2011 Posted August 14, 2011 If you want to be a better player, play offline. If you want to be a better netplayer, play online.
Airk Posted August 15, 2011 Posted August 15, 2011 (edited) Actually, if you want to be a better player, you play both, because you're not going to be able to play in person all the time. Anyway, I don't see why you people are giving this guy such a hard time. He wants to not be completely terribad when he takes the time to do a lot of travelling to go to a tournament. Also, for what it's worth, the times when you are an impoverished college student are, in fact, the times when you will have the MOST Ability to just randomly drop everything and call a 5 hour road trip to go to a fighting game tournament. Enjoy it while you can. Edited August 15, 2011 by Airk
Rhiya Posted August 15, 2011 Posted August 15, 2011 Netplay gives you the wrong idea about some stuff. Like, if I only played netplay, I'd swear to god overheads were secretly unblockables 90% of the time.
Airk Posted August 15, 2011 Posted August 15, 2011 Netplay gives you the wrong idea about some stuff. Like, if I only played netplay, I'd swear to god overheads were secretly unblockables 90% of the time. Does it give you the wrong idea about any stuff that you might actually suppose was really the case? :P I hear a lot of blahblahblah overheads and purple throws netplay, but actual evidence suggests that A) These claims are overrated, since both I and the people of similar skill level (read: Not high) do block/tech these at the expected rates (Not high, but present) and B) No one would actually seriously think that, so... :P
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