JETROCKETSKATES Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 (edited) So what's the deal with people using 5dd after 6c for midscreen combos now? Does 5d > dead spike > dash 5c not work anymore? On the plus side, 5b > 5c > 2d rapid ect does like, 5k in the corner, damn. Edited October 9, 2011 by JETROCKETSKATES
MashThat5A Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 I've been reading that it became character specific, meaning that DS launches further horizontally.
Tong Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 so, not even 6B -down- 214D dash 5C works midscreen?
MashThat5A Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 I doubt it. If anything, you need to use 5D(1) DS because it allows you to be slightly closer.
-Seo Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 (edited) Well 6B -down- > 214D > Dash 5C is essentially the same as the current 2D> rapid > 5C > > 5D(1) > 214D > Dash 5C, but that's hard enough to connect mid screen as is. I don't think 6B -down- > 214D > Dash 5C would've been very practical midscreen. Near the corner though, it should be fine. Edited October 9, 2011 by -Seo
Tong Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 I heard Dashing is easier. So, 6B dash 5C 2C 5D(1) 214D dash 5C *MIGHT* work..
MashThat5A Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 You could always try to see how difficult it is by setting the dummy to not emergency tech so you can try 6B stuff.
GrandF'inStyle Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 Any1 else notice that rags running speed looks a bit faster. maybe its just me, but he's looking noel speed.
MashThat5A Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 Ragna is already as fast as Noel. Maybe they made him as fast as Mu?
MashThat5A Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 (edited) Did anyone else notice GH hitting crouchers when close to the corner? EDIT: Also, why are people not doing 6B>5C(JC)>stuff midscreen? Edited October 9, 2011 by MashThat5A
-Seo Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 (edited) j.D buff: ・JDch時、相手が高めに浮くようになった Not really sure how to translate this. Longer untech time on counter hit j.D? Also, Tsuika (along with Keri Age) no longer break guard primers. Edited October 10, 2011 by -Seo
hakimiru Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 j.D buff: ・JDch時、相手が高めに浮くようになった Not really sure how to translate this. Longer untech time on counter hit j.D? Also, Tsuika (along with Keri Age) no longer break guard primers. Opponent floats high on jD counterhit. Since they're floating higher I guess longer untech time is implied too? Would be bad otherwise >w>
MashThat5A Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 The longer untech time makes sense, since I've been seeing j.D>BE work in new places.
Gramas Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxFHv-_MF-M @ 7:15 2D definetly looks faster, at least start-up wise but this could just be me. wow@ the new barrier pushback...2d didnt connect twice LOL
LuminAbyss Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv_reEXdn7s&t=10m1s Footage of knocking down with 6B after 6C. It does work, but it MIGHT be character specific if people were missing it before (it's done on Makoto in this match). Don't know if anyone else has already seen this. On the primer breaking note, I'm sad we lost Tsuika and Keri Age, but we still have D Divider for surprise guard breaks, so all is well~ Whenever you get a chance KayEff, be sure to add the loss of primer breaking to the first post. Edited October 10, 2011 by LuminAbyss
advancedNoob Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 I'm watching all the vids jourdal and pktzan upload and the only time I saw 6b wiff after 6c was in the corner, which is normal and happens in cs2 as well. You need to take a small step back for it to connect.
KayEff Posted October 10, 2011 Author Posted October 10, 2011 or you can do 6C dash cancel 6D jc j.D j.214C, and THEN do 6B i'm kinda sure 6B works off of belial edge untechable (without any hitstun reduction) at least
LuminAbyss Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 or you can do 6C dash cancel 6D jc j.D j.214C, and THEN do 6B i'm kinda sure 6B works off of belial edge untechable (without any hitstun reduction) at least It does, I've also seen that in a video. Might work of Deadspike too, though I'm not sure. But that would really help with adding damage to our corner combos. For midscreen combos, using the 6B air hit after 6C (say, in a crouching combo like in the video) would help increase the damage. Either way, I love this change so much.
WolfCrimson Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 How come I don't see 5D(1)>DS or 6C > DS midscreen anymore?
ADS627 Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 they changed the way opponents float when they're hit by it.
KayEff Posted October 10, 2011 Author Posted October 10, 2011 i wonder if 6B has enough hitstun in where you can wait after 6B's recovery and then use 5C it'd be great for burst bait setups
WolfCrimson Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 they changed the way opponents float when they're hit by it. That sucks.
Tong Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 There are better/reliable stuff around.. The timing was weird anyway, we're better of with 6C 6B
WolfCrimson Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 There are better/reliable stuff around.. The timing was weird anyway, we're better of with 6C 6B Hell no, imo DS combos look so cool. When BBCSEX releases, I'm gonna fund a research team to try and discover a way DS to work midscreen again (i.e. just me)
Jourdal Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 Never bothered with them till a month ago, found out i like them and they're stylish...only for them to be taken out. 6B midscreen combos are a stylish alternative though.
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