Guilty Gear II Overture ( GAMEPLAY DISCUSSION AND TACTICS PLZ )

[Jubeh]

Well, I mean, are there a lot of people playing? I haven't even managed to find one match online.

[4649]

all the good players are in japan ;_; i've been downloading japanese replays, some notes coming soon

[Jubeh]

Does Ky have a launcher that you can actually combo? It seems like the one he has is way too slow. I'm doing Right X X, Left X or variations of that, and the launcher always gets blocked because he hesitates. I also heard that he has some sort of loop, if anybody can confirm that. Charged Stun Edge is like the greatest fucking thing in this game. When fighting elites, you can just CSE, hit neutral x otg, and then do it again. Unless there's something easier I'm missing. I've mostly been doing Left X X, Right X, X all the way to launcher (which normally gets blocked by masters, but not servants), IAD air combo. But I almost don't need to when CSE kills some of the weaker minions in one hit.

[Adelheid]

Yeah, Ky has pretty sweet lots of things. As Paradigm, against Ky, I always make sure I have Aegis Field purchased relatively early just to combat that crap, when against every other character I don't even bother with that move.

[Blade]

Okay so...I was at my friend's the other day tinkering around with Servants and there's a few things I learned. --Having a fast unit doesn't necessarily mean its safe. I summoned at least 10 consecutive Queens (as Sol) that got eaten alive by a group of Ky's Elites in less than 10 seconds. This is even more complicated when slow units like Gigant are the last to show up to a brawl, you're better off summoning them to protect your Master Ghost then sending them off anywhere. Faster units run ahead, even when grouped and get killed the fastest. --Just having a group of servants out that are highly effective against those your opponent summons puts you at a dire advantage. Remember: Melee "Circle" --Beats Mobile --Loses to Armored --Loses to Ranged Mobile "Triangle" --Beats Armored --Beats Magic --Loses to Melee Armored "Square" --Loses to Mobile --Loses to Magic --Beats Melee --Beats Ranged Magic "Star" --Loses to Mobile --Loses to Ranged --Beats Armored Ranged "Arrow" --Beats Melee --Beats Magic --Loses to Armored 1 Elite Melee 1 Elite Mobile 1 Elite Armored 1 Elite Magic 1 Elite Ranged Only one elite servant of each type can be summoned at a time (no doubles).

[Silmerion]

All of these things you posted can be found in the manual. Just sayin'.

[CrimsonDisaster]

Might pick up this game and start mashing online in the near future.

[Blade]

All of these things you posted can be found in the manual. Just sayin'.

I'm aware of that, but some people don't bother sometimes.

That, and I had to remind myself. Sol's actually better off pocketing a bunch of his servants and dropping them off at various points while dealing with most things himself, since most of his servants don't exactly strike me as troublesome. Just tripping them up or causing knockdown is enough. Also, it's something to point out, but once the ghost gauge starts flashing your color (after you fill and capture it) there's no need to wait for it to light up, which can save you some time.

About the only ones that I would say are hard to deal with are projectile and rushing types that like to dash at you or fire at you, those are hard to dodge in large numbers. Gigant isn't too hard to deal with either, as long as you keep at his backside and know when to pull back when he shoots.

I haven't fought other servant tribes much yet, though it seems Magic types go down really quickly, including Magic Elites (so much for Queen... -_-).

Also learned that the L-Trigger doesn't just act like a strafe button, but gives you access to your Lock-On moves without really needing to be locked on to anything...useful for Ky's Holy Brand that is more a sidestep move than anything.

[Adelheid]

I haven't fought other servant tribes much yet

Hey Blade want a fight over XBL after I get back to Washington

[Blade]

Sorry, like I said, I was over at a friend's house when playing it...I don't own 360 or Live for that matter.

[Adelheid]

I just wish Paradigm weren't so the worst character by such a wide margin, he's so cool and I love playing as him but he just can't win a fight against another player character, I mean he can't even run away given his lack of an air dash, he really just has to never run in to the opponent without backup

[Silmerion]

I just wish Paradigm weren't so the worst character by such a wide margin, he's so cool and I love playing as him but he just can't win a fight against another player character, I mean he can't even run away given his lack of an air dash, he really just has to never run in to the opponent without backup

Stop whining. At least you don't play as the character with the worst army in the game, eh?

My thoughts on the tiers for this game. The game's pretty balanced, and the game is more or less all about skill, but tiers are clearly there.

Combat

S: Sol

A: Izuna, Ky

B: Sin

C: Valentine, Raven

D: Paradigm

Army

S: Paradigm

A: Valentine/Raven

B: Ky/Sin

C: Sol

D: Izuna

Overall

S: Sol

A: Izuna

B: Raven

C: Ky, Paradigm, Sin

D: Valentine

Revisified.

[Adelheid]

No way, guy.

Overall

S: Sol

A: Izuna, Raven

B: Ky, Valentine

C: Sin

D--: Paradigm

[Blade]

Seriously, Raven sucks? Please do tell.

[Silmerion]

No way, guy.

Overall

S: Sol

A: Izuna, Raven

B: Ky, Valentine

C: Sin

D--: Paradigm

Oh, for Pete's sake. You're just sore because you're bad at combat. You have the best army in the game. There's no way Paradigm is bottom-tier.

[Blade]

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm4372977

Ky combo vid. Still looking for Raven combos...

[JinSaotome]

Mind if I CUT IN!? So since I'm home for the weekend and have access to the internets, who still plays this? Even though I suck still, I absolutely love this game Also, pretty crappy Sol combo I've been using X X -> Gunflame -> VV [MC] VV [MC] *land* Bandit Revolver

[Silmerion]

Mind if I CUT IN!?

So since I'm home for the weekend and have access to the internets, who still plays this? Even though I suck still, I absolutely love this game

Also, pretty crappy Sol combo I've been using

X X -> Gunflame -> VV [MC] VV [MC] *land* Bandit Revolver

I haven't played in forever and a day, so I'm probably a little rusty, but hit me up tomorrow night. My Gamertag is I Darago I.

Here's a better Sol combo:

AD, j.FX (MC), land, X X X, delay, Bandit Revolver

271 damage, takes a pittance of Tension.

[JinSaotome]

Ok! I'll be using my friend XBawx, so I'll be "AxlGundam" Also, how do I hurt That Man D:

[Silmerion]

Ok! I'll be using my friend XBawx, so I'll be "AxlGundam"

Also, how do I hurt That Man D:

You kill his little minion things and wait for the screen to pan to your back, then run up and beat the crap out of him in the short span the game gives you.

[koun]

I wish there was more life in this game

[Blackgenma]

go to the guilty room's GG2 topic. that's where all the current gameplay discussion takes place. you can set up some potential matches there. also, there are basic game play guides in the guilty room (on a separate thread). I'm working on bringing back the GG2 video thread back in action, which was wiped when the site had troubles, but it will take a while. I can't believe you went so deep into this board and pulled out this thread from the abyss just to say this. this game became old news once blazblue came out. such a shame.

[ZexImmortal]

Not Sure If People Still Play this game? but i know i do. If anyone is looking for someone to play, i'm ready. Just add me and we'll start (If you live outside of Canada or USA we have a high chance of lag)

[Linear04]

woww someone in sauga has this game

fuck i wish i still had my copy cus im in toronto