AC: Ky Kiske Discussion

[Shinobi!]

2HS is one hit jump cancellable.

[低姿勢]

apperently you can get as many as 5 f+hs loops on potemkin and then combo...

[Sytha]

Think the 6H loop would work on anyone else? or Potemkin only?

[低姿勢]

no it works on other characters, but apperently you can get up to five loops on potemkin with it combo in and out of it.

[H-F Blade]

Is CSE on the ground still frcable? I don't remember seeing it in any of the matches. =\ And does the new 6H really force crouch position on the opponent if you hit them during the stun? I saw it in match #84.

[Darkhonor90]

Is CSE on the ground still frcable? I don't remember seeing it in any of the matches. =\ And does the new 6H really force crouch position on the opponent if you hit them during the stun? I saw it in match #84.

Yes CSE is still FRCable

[H-F Blade]

I wanna see vids of this 6H loop if there are any. HS VT needs to have a followup after lightning javelin. There has to be something.

[Sytha]

In the Testament Vs. Ky match on Gamechariot. The Ky almost got it. He did Throw>FRC>5S>6P>2H>HSVT>LJ>Land>2P(Hit cleanly)>5S (far) I think you'll need to move slighty before the Relaunch tho. 2P works for sure. so 5K will work too.

[Mr. Mamation]

yah, i saw that i think he thought he could close slash it but got far instead, anyway there is a certified loop...brooken???

[H-F Blade]

Yeah, he absolutely needs a followup off that LJ. The wallbounce and trajectory just scream "RELAUNCH!" I'll be disappointed if there isn't one but by the looks of things, it may be possible. Also in match #20 of filebank, it also looks like there is a possible followup to the LJ. It occurs around 1:07. Since Ky lands crouching quickly before the opponent does I'm thinking 2P would definitely work here. Still waiting to see if there's any matches that show off this 6H loop.

[低姿勢]

ah he can combo after it theres videos of him comboing after it for real... Guess jsut gotta look harder... on a random note order sol vs ky song isnt that great... Sounds kinda wierd acctualy... Not rock and rollish... Hrmm maybe its just the video quality I hope.

[Shinobi!]

If a loop IS possible and it is, I would do 2p-2hs-vt-lj off the relaunch. There was a formula like study they did on how to effectively do it. 6H Loop?? It was bound to happen....stagger on normal hit?? I mean if that aint loop material, that would've been fucked up. But yeah, still waiting on those matches....

[低姿勢]

acctualy its a air loop. for 6hs that is.

[Shinobi!]

acctualy its a air loop. for 6hs that is.

Ok so let me at least try to elaborate. 6HS has an ability to wall bounce when hit in the air. Guess you go back and forth until you can finish it with a VT combo or something like that. So how does it start? 6HS isnt a noticable anti-air. (as of now) Could GS combo into 6HS? Would 2HS CH work to start this loop? This is getting very mysterious. Has anyone seen videos of this even tried to be accomplished?

Dammit....

[H-F Blade]

It's done while they're in the air? Dang. What are the setups for it? If there is no practical way to set it up then it may not be all that useful. =\ The only setup I can see at this point is after an impossible dust.

[低姿勢]

off FRC throw, f+p air counter hit, and impossible dust

[PozerWolf]

Ok so let me at least try to elaborate. 6HS has an ability to wall bounce when hit in the air. Guess you go back and forth until you can finish it with a VT combo or something like that.

If thats the case, then thats some HnK shit right there.

Any chance this loop was cought on video? If so, post it up.

[Shinobi!]

I bring news about HS SE FRC. It seems you can combo from c.D for 6hs loop. Also, this little FRC opens the door to offensive rape. It can be comboable into anything your feeble little mind can think of with Ky. Example: K-S-f.K-c.K-c.D-HS SE(frc)-run in-S-c.HS-HSVT-LJ-land-K-S-c.HS-HSVT-LJ Also the 6HS loop applies with this as well.

[H-F Blade]

That's some very good news. After watching all the match vids vs Baiken from filebank, I can't help but shake my head in disgust. Her new counter move utterly destroys CSE pressure. It's so fast and it's positioning is so good it's like in instant "get out of pressure free" card. Seriously, the CSE is one of the things that greatly helped Ky in that matchup and now it looks useless against her. What is he supposed to do now?

[Alphakami]

I'm thinking FRC that CSE and then there should be some viable way to punish her. It may eventually turn into a guessing game if a Baiken wants to try that counter attack for fear of being read and punished vs Ky. Who knows.

[Shinobi!]

I may have to agree with AlphaKami here. I've seen out of all of the Baiken/Ky vids that the player did not use FRC CSE one time. Gotta see a better Ky play against Baiken. Only then will we see true outcomes on what to do vs. Baiken's counter. The only one I see by far is a well placed VT after you FRC it. I hated Baiken anyways....damn counters....

[Sytha]

Stun Raising prehaps? Ky recoverys instantly from that move.

[Incendia]

Stun Raising? Sorry i'm not sure with the English translations for his new moves. Yeah it's abit of a pain fighting Baiken 'cause you gotta adjust your Okis IMO.

[低姿勢]

Hrmm seems 6hs loop doesnt do very much damage.. Pretty puny damage acctualy. Then again its just one move over and over again... Also looks like there is quite a few unlisted seekrit moves in the game. Apperently ky has his isuka attack in it. But in the videos its more like the opposite, instead of raiseing his hand and shooting up lighting, he shoots down lighting. Still kinda neat I guess, wonder just how many unlisted moves there are.

[The DMK]

Quite a few? There is others :O? I don't remember that attack. Was it a line change attack or something?