Sophisticat Posted December 18, 2011 Author Posted December 18, 2011 Awesome. Let's stir the pot some more. I agree with this guy. There are certain situations where you have to block no matter what or else you get hit, but there are also plenty of situations where risk averse players can poke and CH, but won't because they're not willing to take the risk. It's all about risk tolerance. It can work if you can execute. [...] An it all depends on who im fighting an with that i calculate the risk vs reward factor. [...] Then sure if you get hit you look kinda free but hell, it was a 66% chance of you hitting. [...] getting hit and hitting is over 2k im taking the risk. Do you play poker or similar games, btw? I want to hit on the "risk v. reward", and "competitive edge" aspect of things once this mini-riot will have blown over. I think this will be a more tangible discussion than going on about creativity since no one seems to get it.
Akira-Shiro Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 Please explain how im being dumb,, cause id like to know. Im tried of people alway saying "oh akira, he free as hell, this nig is so free" yet them same people NEVER bodied me like they calm they can. Its very annoying, i thinks is cause i record alot of my video and put them on the tube.. So nigs be scared as hell knowing full well if they play me they will get bodied. I hate when people fake, thats sum bullshit.
CakeWasBannedd Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 let's play right now akira i'm waiting for you
Akira-Shiro Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 Awesome. Let's stir the pot some more. I agree with this guy. There are certain situations where you have to block no matter what or else you get hit, but there are also plenty of situations where risk averse players can poke and CH, but won't because they're not willing to take the risk. It's all about risk tolerance. It can work if you can execute. Do you play poker or similar games, btw? I want to hit on the "risk v. reward", and "competitive edge" aspect of things once this mini-riot will have blown over. I think this will be a more tangible discussion than going on about creativity since no one seems to get it. Lol no i do not play poker,, but logic & psychological thinghave always sparked an interest in me. Probability tho is sumthing i never truly understood
Lord Knight Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 Good LK your here,, can i asked why you lost to that random ragna.. also i have been to a tornament the first one i ever went to i got second,, this was back in CS1. Then is was ECT an i got 4th,, i already kno im not better then you, skd, & Zidane. But these 3 nigs, i dont believe would beat me.. i dont think they can beat all my characters.. only a good 5ppl can do that,, You, SKD, Lostsoul, Isu... and i think thats it to be honest.. well thats all the people i know of anyway. An by beat i mean consistently not it went to the final round (Best 3out of 5) im talking bout i just got bodied That wasn't a random Ragna, that was the 2nd best Ragna at alpha station - plus it is only one game, so anything could happen. If you lose 5-0, or 10-0 to one person, but it goes to the last round everytime, you wouldn't consider that getting bodied? Matches vary, anything can happen, but if you're losing consistently (as in, YOU LOSE comes up over and over) then you are losing consistently - you can't just add your own contingencies to what "winning" or "losing" is. As well, since anything can happen in tournaments, if you really want to prove to others and yourself about your skill, you'd have to go to multiple ones. Sure I'll get trolled for occasionally getting 2nd at events, but I've only gotten 1st and 2nd at multiple CS2 events across the country (besides Rev, the first one). Consistency is what matters the most. Anyway, creativity to me is changing the standard. If your play is textbook, it can still be solid, but if you have your own tactics or use tactics that aren't well known, it'll be much more effective, especially in tournaments.
skd Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 only a good 5ppl can do that,, You, SKD, Lostsoul, Isu... and i think thats it to be honest 5!!! Lord Knight 1
CakeWasBannedd Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 akira you don't even know how to count nigga how are we supposed to believe you know how to play this game
Guymam Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 BLOCKING? BUT BUT HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO WIN IF I'M NOT HITTING BUTTONS?!
Akira-Shiro Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 If you lose 5-0, or 10-0 to one person, but it goes to the last round everytime, you wouldn't consider that getting bodied? Matches vary, anything can happen, This right here is a lie,, iv played Isu, TD, Lost.. when i go to the last round (Everytime) it dont matter beacuse of the score 23-4 they always say i got bodied.. But if what you said is tru them my bad,, i was under a different impression. An i can care less how people see me,, when they get to talking shit then we have a problem. An on a different i do not see your room cake... just inv me when you are ready.
Akira-Shiro Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 5!!! I did not feel like listing all the names but it is five people,, i was just being accurate about haw many without listing the people
Akira-Shiro Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 SKD, LK, Gio, Isu, Lostsoul, Nineball happy NeoGio fyi
InfiniteChaos Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 SKD, LK, Gio, Isu, Lostsoul, Nineball happy NeoGio fyi I would like to ask you how many of these people you claim to body do you play in real life. Beating people online, especially PSN, just about has no credentials what so ever due to how much lag PSN usually has. Also I am pretty sure you have lost to more than 5 people in your lifetime of playing BB.
Sophisticat Posted December 18, 2011 Author Posted December 18, 2011 As well, since anything can happen in tournaments, if you really want to prove to others and yourself about your skill, you'd have to go to multiple ones. Sure I'll get trolled for occasionally getting 2nd at events, but I've only gotten 1st and 2nd at multiple CS2 events across the country (besides Rev, the first one). Consistency is what matters the most. Anyway, creativity to me is changing the standard. If your play is textbook, it can still be solid, but if you have your own tactics or use tactics that aren't well known, it'll be much more effective, especially in tournaments. This is very, very true. I'll talk more about the bolded bits later on and hopefully some proper discussion will emerge from that. BLOCKING? BUT BUT HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO WIN IF I'M NOT HITTING BUTTONS?! There is one character with whom this could theoretically work. If you guessed Hakumen, you guessed right. Because of counters, Hakumen technically doesn't have to block. This could also be true of characters with very fast pokes. Of course, risk/reward is extremely skewed, but hey, anything works. You just have to execute.
CakeWasBannedd Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 akira you stupid fucking scrub don't challenge people to prove you wrong by fighting you on netplay and then complain about lag when someone does it
Akira-Shiro Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 that is tru,, but i said people who BODIED ME. An unfortunatley i dont get bodied to often,, sorry but it is the truth.. dont believe me look at my videos. I have no reason to lie,, i only lose to a few people... and i only get bodied by less then a handful. http://www.youtube.com/user/hinatagoddess3 Its alot of me vs alot of the people i justed named,, and if you look on SRZ page he has a few of me & him too http://www.youtube.com/user/Kenshin6321/search?query=akira-shiro
Akira-Shiro Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 (edited) akira you stupid fucking scrub don't challenge people to prove you wrong by fighting you on netplay and then complain about lag when someone does it cake im not sure where you live at in canada,, but i play another Canadian and he has a 3 with me.. im going to need to you to get what he has and get off that mcdonalds wifi also you have a 1 connection,,, imma need you to step your game up. I got 20MBs download speed, and 17mbs upload speed so i know its not me responsible for the lag. Edited December 18, 2011 by Akira-Shiro
CakeWasBannedd Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 that is tru,, but i said people who BODIED ME. An unfortunatley i dont get bodied to often,, sorry but it is the truth.. dont believe me look at my videos. I have no reason to lie,, i only lose to a few people... and i only get bodied by less then a handful. http://www.youtube.com/user/hinatagoddess3 Its alot of me vs alot of the people i justed named,, and if you look on SRZ page he has a few of me & him too http://www.youtube.com/user/Kenshin6321/search?query=akira-shiro you mean videos like this
Akira-Shiro Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 I mean thats lk,, i have no problem admitting to getting bodied by him.. that was also the beginning of cs1 lol its tru.. Back then i had looked at the fram data and saw that the startup to a grab was 10 + the 3active so i though it was 13fs total.. But then i looked like 3-4months later and saw it was 7fs.. [Edit] what i was looking at was probably the attack right above the grab,, but that was just a commen mistake.
InfiniteChaos Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 I mean thats lk,, i have no problem admitting to getting bodied by him.. that was also the beginning of cs1 lol its tru.. Back then i had looked at the fram data and saw that the startup to a grab was 10 + the 3active so i though it was 13fs total.. But then i looked like 3-4months later and saw it was 7fs.. [Edit] what i was looking at was probably the attack right above the grab,, but that was just a commen mistake. That is most definitely CS2 you were playing
Zeron_X25 Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 (edited) akira you don't even know how to count nigga how are we supposed to believe you know how to play this game Can't stop laughing. oh god I mean thats lk,, i have no problem admitting to getting bodied by him.. that was also the beginning of cs1 lol its tru.. I don't understand? Do you mean the video is from the beginning of CS2? Hazama's 6C doesn't work mid combo in CS1... Edited December 18, 2011 by Zeron_X25
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