[AC] May Tactical Discussion/Questions/Help

[Kyle]

With Guity Gear being as DEEP as it is, I can't possiably admit to playing a second character. Yes I will do some matches with Testy or Anji, but I don't KNOW them well enough. 23 matche up is hard enough to learn, now try 23 match up's with 2 or 3 characters....geez. 6HS, SVD- It's LATE, try watching for the Anchor to hit the ground and press 8HS AS SOON as you see it land. I think the cancel is a few frames before it actually grounds though. Practice.

[aluna]

man, if that's the case, then I'm still trying to do it wayyyyy too early. Thanks though, I'll try that out.

[PhaethonH]

Yeah...................

it's probably just me. thanks for stealing my hope of an excuse.

j/k

I get that the timing is somewhat late on the canceling of the 6HS into svd, but I've gotten like once. Is there any frame data you might be able to provide on the timing maybe????

I'm not really one for frames, but I can't really think of another way to find it. thanks in advance.

Well, I did decide on specializing May some years ago (like... when I started GG... :grin:), and then when I do play as other chars, I still find myself JIing and JCing (VD) "randomly"

6H: 15 frames startup, 16F hitstun = 31 F window for charging. VD requires 30 F charge. Furthermore, you have ~5 frames after the hitstun to cancel, giving something like a 6F window to cancel after full-charge.

So, if you have the beginning correct ( -- brutally short if you don't know how to do it) you should be hitting 8 S/H within like 5 frames of May moving again after the hitstun (swing, pause, move again for a split second, dolphin). I personally cannot react this fast, so I've actually learned to time the move from the start of hitstun (i.e. I try to predict when the hitstun will end).

pulsr had a neat trick for getting down the cancel timing in training mode: 6H->RR. Do the RR as late as possible after the hitstun expires. This exercise helps give you the feel for how long after the hit spark you can cancel into dolphin (heck, I still do it).

EDIT: more advice: the [2] (or 1 or 3) needs to be charged for 30F -- the has to be the one being delayed. The S/H can be spazzed during up if it helps, but only after a "down" was held for 30F.

[aluna]

Thanks alot Phae, that helped wonders. Still can't do it super consistantly, but at least now I can do it. So now I can work towards doing it consistantly. I felt like slapping myself after I used the RR to find the timing. Super appreciate it.

[pulsr]

btw who told you that fred ;p

[PhaethonH]

btw who told you that fred ;p

Told me what? About learn May = only May? He goes by "Yumi Saotome", but he hasn't played GG since shortly after #R was released (real life and stuff getting in the way).

[Hsien_Jo]

Im getting use to the 6HS, V.Dolphin now. Its hard to explain how to charge it. Its kinda I try to press down forward but I press HS as soon as my finger presses forward before i hit the down all together. That works for me. Also I like practicing with Venom to help me with learning how to charge better, its helped me a bit it might help others. I try to do his 6p, 6HS, carcass raid (charge d, up slash), since its a bit harder to do that mays 6HS, V.Dolphin in my opinion. Food for thought.

[PhaethonH]

Also I like practicing with Venom to help me with learning how to charge better, its helped me a bit it might help others. I try to do his

6p, 6HS, carcass raid (charge d, up slash), since its a bit harder to do that mays 6HS, V.Dolphin in my opinion. Food for thought.

To add to that, practicing w/ Potemkin is also a nice way to practice May's 6P/6H -> H.Dolphin/FB cancel: PO's 6H -> Hammerfall ([4]6H). PO 6H is 18-frame startup, compared to (uncharged) MA 6H/6P (same startup both). If you can get PO 6H->Hammerfall easily, you just need to do it 3 frames faster for MA 6P->H.Dolphin.

P.S. anyone else read Venom's "Carcass Raid" as "necrophilia"? Maybe it's just me.

[Kyle]

Orca has a Scar and a skull/crossbones eye patch. Pointless but sweet.

[PhaethonH]

Orca has a Scar and a skull/crossbones eye patch.

Pointless but sweet.

I remember one time coming across a page in a language I didn't know talking about that orca; and after letting the babelfish digest it, the impression I got from the page was something along the lines of May was an abusive mistress and an animal abuser.

Although, in my opinion (or imagination...), the orca already had those injuries when it was adopted/recruited. Except that if you look at the scars in just the right way, they almost spell "MAY", as if it were deliberate...

[Nhur]

some questiones for make the tread little more active. Why do you like may? What is your favourite thing about her? Most abusable attack? and THE MOST IMPORTANT XD!!!, what is his most cute sprite in the game?!!!! -Why do you like may? She is the most cute character of the game *__*, her moves are funny, (the first time that i seen her destroy in mising link *___* was very funny). 6P, and i lke the charges. -What is your favourite thing about her? I love when i see in the video from ggx plus, comanding the ship, i like her history too, but my favourite thing is the faces that she makes fighting !!!!, and Biru Biru Bah!!!! taunt -Most abusable attack? j.HS, *___* - what is his most cute sprite in the game?!!!! i dont know X.x I love when she misses her comand grab, or 6P *___*

[ArcLord_KisekiU]

I gots trouble doing 6HS-> SVD after OHK, o.o. i got the 5P->SVD thing down, but i don't get 6HS->SVD often unless I charge the 6HS a little bit. Not sure of anyone mentioned, but the FB dolphin is projectile, and seems to eat them as well, while still going thru. FB Dolphin ate ky's SE, and then hit him in the face,

[pulsr]

its timing. you pretty much press 6hs immediately go to 1_3 and wait a bit after hit stun and tada dolphin rape

[Kyle]

Animal abuser!?!?

Black Kitty looks healthy. It even has a yellow scarf... Pink Pirate hat...

Maybe the scars are a pun of Killer Whale. :blue:

[Kyle]

Why do you like may?

-I was attracted to her Difficult Input and charge moves in Reload.

What is your favorite thing about her?

-The very few people who actually played her.

Most abusable attack?

-OHK. lol

what is the most cute sprite in the game?

CUTE!?!?!?.... hmmmm. When she air throws and says "Bye-Bye". It's not the so much the sprite as it is the voice acting but cute is subjective.

About 6HS, SVD Cancel-

PhaethonH describes a very technical breakdown of it here. Check it out.

http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1697&page=17

[PhaethonH]

Alright, I'll bite :blue: Why like May: She is with dolphins. Favorite thing about May: Dolphins. Most abusable attack: Dolphins. Cutest sprite: Dolphins in flight (see my avatar at left). Although her mid-6P (active frame) sprite comes close (clenched eyelids). If it weren't for the dolphins, I'd be pissed annoyed at her overbearing cutesy factor.

[Kyle]

-EDIT- Post deleted. Questionably disrespectful. Kyle-

[pulsr]

shes loli shes loli hs her jackhound sprite

[cerb0z]

she has j2hs she has j2hs 5k pwned dolphin

[ArcLord_KisekiU]

Ah, thanks for the reference Kyle, =D Why I like May: Sea Life= awesome, May throwing dolphin. Favorite Thing about May: Er... " Blue Water, Blue Sky" <3. Most Abusive attack?... err... 3K, or dolphin (unless you play against turtles, o.o) Cutest sprite?: Whenever she goes XD!!!! (namely 2D)

[Kyle]

Well Guys, I figured I would give everyone an Update about my plans and expectations for the forum in the next few weeks. I am currently very involved in getting an Art exhibit submission, and finishing/matting/Framing 4 Art pieces. So, I am Taking a small Combo- Break. I will catch back up and probably do a Combo Video in a month. SER is in two weeks and I am planning lots Around that. So the week Prier to SER I will complete and Post up the AC May Advanced Guide. (15th - 18th). After SER I will Dive into Character Match-ups, Everyone except Testy, I- no and Sol will be Represented at SER. I plan on learning A LOT , The Regional Testies are under VERY UNFORTUNATE Circumstances & can not attend, Kugler Plays I-no some so maybe... and sol, hell, we have already discussed Sol anyways. =P. I plan on doing very in-depth Analysis so I will Copy the Layout Jais Made for Bridget Match-up FAQ and start a new thread.

(Located Here - http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3266 )

I feel His Layout should be the PAR of Match-Up Faq's and ours shouldn't disappoint anyone. =)That way we can use the old match-up thread for discussion.

A little over a week - AC May Advanced Guide.

2 - 3 weeks - Ac May Match-ups, Analyzed.

1 - 2 Months - Combo Video. with the sweet shit PhaethonH and I discussed.

About that, by the way, I might just include ALL suggestion and make a MAY Combo Video, Edited/played by myself, but be able to include input/reference from all of the May players and Represent Dustloop May Forums. How does everyone feel about that? Does anyone else want to help?

[qwan]

hey i'm asking myself, in the movie "run the sky" the guy do the RR hs realy closed to the ground and he iad after.Does he do a 6 frc6 like for Ino? (the first RR in the movie is doable without, but the second is realy down i think)

[Nhur]

have you seen the old may ship background in AC? the girls are diferent from the other games like slash or reload, *___*

[shinquickman]

@qwan: Yeah 6 FRC 6. Really annoying to do.

[Kyle]

Yep Yep you buffer the dash out of the frc. This was STAPLE for GG Slash May combo. =P 6, 6+FRC,