Kyle Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 Welcome to the May forums Miz_Erable. I'll try to further explain, but everyone else did a great job. JI every time...What is the use of this? This is for Habit, all it does is increase consistency of combo's because of the extra input practice. Is the increased pushback of any help? You only have increased pushback when you run for the loops, as it negates horizontal sliding, because the game thinks you've jumped. It HURTS you to JI when you run for it. it doesn't hurt you when you just stand there, as you do for most May combos. Someone could explain to me why it is "pro"? JI everytime is pro because anytime you FRC and fall aimlessly, "without an airdash", you look horriably noob. After a lame l00p, if I FRC the last HSVD>AD>j.H>land>j.H... this last j.H (just after landing) never touch my opponent. He always recover in time... This combo is best for light weights, and not after the second loop. Additionally, it is very difficult and requires strict timing on the FRC, AD, J.HS portion.
Kyle Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 @FrankDaTank- Great point about ABA, it's just hard to get her blood bar down that far.. or OHK her for that matter. lol How about you come over here and make GGPO work,we can Finally do this. huh huh. Hsien-Jo- My Favorite May color is her Slash Green outfit. I <3 it. But, Zombie May was just sooo different I decided to use it. Everybody else- Favorite May colorz?
Miz_Erable Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 Welcome to the May forums Miz_Erable. Thank you, I'm reading them for a long time so I wasn't remembering that I never posted. Thanks everyone for the responses. I guess I just forgot the FRC>AD>H>etc after the HSVD, wich I always do in the last rep of the loop, of course. Didn't know about JI cancelling horizontal sliding. This is interresting to know since the JI must not be made when OHK is done when the opponent is in the corner. My favorite color is the white May, slash button in ex mode.
Kyle Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 Your exactly right about the corner OHK not JI the first rep. There are however, other times when you shouldn't JI the first loop because you ran in. Examples would include. OHK... CH 2HS... CH J.HS... 2D/2HS, FBHSHD... I will compile a list in a little while and update the primer. Some people just need to be told this. =). Edit- LIST of when NOT to JI the first Rep. OHK- running lame loop. 2H, FB_HD- running lame loop. 2D, FB _HD- running lame loop. 214D,-running lame loop. CH-2D- running 2P, lame loop. CH-2HS- running lame loop. CH-J.H- running lame loop. CH 236236S- (WHALE)- running lame loop. The only other example of when NOT to JI a rep is when you Combo RoboKy and you FRC a SVD and have to run in for the next loop. I'll updated the combo thread later today with the cool stuff I've found out about combo'n Robots.
Hsien_Jo Posted January 20, 2008 Posted January 20, 2008 This is the only area in the May thread I thought I could ask this. For all you stick users that are May players, what advice can you give me for selecting a stick. I read the thread on it but it doesn't help since Ive never used an arcade stick a day in my life (I still call sticks "bricks' "cinder blocks"), so I wouldn't know what from what. What stick do you guys use and what would you recommend for a first timer?
Hsien_Jo Posted January 20, 2008 Posted January 20, 2008 @FrankDaTank- Great point about ABA, it's just hard to get her blood bar down that far.. or OHK her for that matter. lol How about you come over here and make GGPO work,we can Finally do this. huh huh. Hsien-Jo- My Favorite May color is her Slash Green outfit. I <3 it. But, Zombie May was just sooo different I decided to use it. Everybody else- Favorite May colorz? An ol school May color that never seemed to make it back was Mays color in GGX where she was All in black Tanned skin, aqua blueish hair, It was a color me and my best friend like that we dubbed "Dark May" In terms of colors I have a few others but because Im very Indecisive I chose the EX: square cause blue is my fav color and brown is my favorite color of hair to see on a girl so I stuck with it and it seemed so simple I had to like it. I also like the colors: Normal Dust: where shes in Black out fit, tanned skin, red hair and Golden Anchor. (If the anchor was black, read, or white id pick this as main, cause as muchas I like the gold color anchor it seems to stand out too much and does match with the out fit) EX S: White rain coat, black wet suit, brown hair (nice solid color, brown hair nuff said) EX HS: Nice red color coat, black wet suit, blonde hair (red with black is always a nice color combo, but with black hair that color would be rockin) Ex Dust: (Johnnyish color), Black rain coat wit red trim, blonde hair, red anchor (if this color was the ressurrection of the Dark May color id be a happeh man) Off AC topic but I loved Isuka forr the color edit Two favorites for May were St Aug May, aka Purple and Gold May (High school colors of my high school) I thiiiiink it was Purple Rain Coat, gold trim, black wet suit, tanned skin, i want to say black hair, and purple anchor Ocean Blue May: Black rain coat, blue trim and wet suit, tanned skin, blue anchor and blue hair. Wish i had screenies but my isuka died long long ago.
Kryian Posted January 20, 2008 Posted January 20, 2008 At first I couldn't pull myself away from Reload HS, but now I've found myself sticking with Zombie May because that blood red anchor is just too good. Really most of May's colors are just too good.
Kyle Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 Hsien_jo- Is there any way for you to post pics of your Isuka colors, they sound very intriguing. =) Sticks- hmmmmmmm, If you just starting out here's what I have to say. Everything is equally difficult, so pick something universal. GGXX/Arcana/Melty arcades are hori square gates, Street fighter games are with American made 360 stick. Which type of game are you going to play the most?
Hsien_Jo Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 Hsien_jo- Is there any way for you to post pics of your Isuka colors, they sound very intriguing. =) Sticks- hmmmmmmm, If you just starting out here's what I have to say. Everything is equally difficult, so pick something universal. GGXX/Arcana/Melty arcades are hori square gates, Street fighter games are with American made 360 stick. Which type of game are you going to play the most? Id be Hori then cause im not competitive in street fighter as in the Doujins, Those three you named are my joint. Goin back to the workshop with Ciel in MB soon so Ill definetly keep hori in mind. If I remeber right I have Isuka on my laptop, but its in the shop, ill find a way to save a pic of the colors when I get it back
pulsr Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 I use the red color, i'll take a screen shot and you'll see why
qwan Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 Hi there! I just begin to have color habits..For free play I usually take the blue/red color ( ex D) or the light green (ex S). And for tournament, it's dark May or purple may ( reload P or Hs)
Most Unknown Posted January 25, 2008 Posted January 25, 2008 Sup yall...My question today is that I am having a problem with 6hs into VD...I can execute this wit no problem when I charge the 6H, but when I want to do Dolphin without the charge, I can never get it off..What is the button input to do 6H into VD without charge... ~1~
Kyle Posted January 25, 2008 Posted January 25, 2008 6HS. 6HS Special Cancels and Super Cancels. 6HS does not jump cancel. you can cancel 6HS into - OHK= Overhead kiss command grab 63214 K RR = Resestive Roll Dragon punch 6323 S or HS...grounded Hoop Set= 41236 + P/K/S/HS can be held forever by buffering button. SVD= Slash vertical dolphin 2,8 S HSVD= Heavy slash vertical dolphin 2, 8 HS SHD= Slash horizontal dolphin 4, 6 S HSHD= Heavy Slash Horizontal Dolphin 4, 6 HS FBSVD= force break Slash vertical dolphin 2,8 S, 8D FBHSVD= force break heavy slash vertical dolphin 2, 8 HS, 8D FBSHD= force break Slash horizontal dolphin 4, 6 S, 6D FBHSHD= force break Heavy Slash Horizontal Dolphin 4, 6 HS, 6Ds WHALE= OMG it's a whale! 236236 S Jackhound= OTG launch, scales bad, very un-usable 214 D You can NOT cancel 6HS into- Jump P K S HS 5D 5D[D] 6HS SVD, pro tip, it's LATE. Input should be 6HS, [3]. . . . 9S or 9HS. -No charge buffering tricks -MAN IT UP! 6HS can be charged fully to make an Overhead, it's pretty good on wake-up. set-ups discussed in next Guide. Quote: Originally Posted by PhaethonH View Post 6H: 15 frames startup, 16F hitstun = 31 F window for charging. VD requires 30 F charge. Furthermore, you have ~5 frames after the hitstun to cancel, giving something like a 6F window to cancel after full-charge. So, if you have the beginning correct ( -- brutally short if you don't know how to do it) you should be hitting 8 S/H within like 5 frames of May moving again after the hitstun (swing, pause, move again for a split second, dolphin). I personally cannot react this fast, so I've actually learned to time the move from the start of hitstun (i.e. I try to predict when the hitstun will end). pulsr had a neat trick for getting down the cancel timing in training mode: 6H->RR. Do the RR as late as possible after the hitstun expires. This exercise helps give you the feel for how long after the hit spark you can cancel into dolphin (heck, I still do it). EDIT: more advice: the [2] (or 1 or 3) needs to be charged for 30F -- the has to be the one being delayed. The S/H can be spazzed during up if it helps, but only after a "down" was held for 30F. Quote: Originally Posted by Hsien_Jo View Post Im getting use to the 6HS, V.Dolphin now. Its hard to explain how to charge it. Its kinda I try to press down forward but I press HS as soon as my finger presses forward before i hit the down all together. That works for me. Also I like practicing with Venom to help me with learning how to charge better, its helped me a bit it might help others. I try to do his 6p, 6HS, carcass raid (charge d, up slash), since its a bit harder to do that mays 6HS, V.Dolphin in my opinion. Food for thought. Quote: Originally Posted by PhaethonH View Post To add to that, practicing w/ Potemkin is also a nice way to practice May's 6P/6H -> H.Dolphin/FB cancel: PO's 6H -> Hammerfall ([4]6H). PO 6H is 18-frame startup, compared to (uncharged) MA 6H/6P (same startup both). If you can get PO 6H->Hammerfall easily, you just need to do it 3 frames faster for MA 6P->H.Dolphin.
Hsien_Jo Posted January 26, 2008 Posted January 26, 2008 Sup yall...My question today is that I am having a problem with 6hs into VD...I can execute this wit no problem when I charge the 6H, but when I want to do Dolphin without the charge, I can never get it off..What is the button input to do 6H into VD without charge... ~1~ Like kyle quoted in my method, try that and try to hit the person with the tip of the anchor so you see it hit the ground use that for an indicator and just practice to get the feel of it, its a certain feel youll know when you have it, after which try it on the overhead kiss, it has about the same timing but you cant press "up s" to early or too late, just experiment with the feel of it. Practice makes perfect.
Most Unknown Posted January 26, 2008 Posted January 26, 2008 Thanks yall...I practice this and then I'll let yall know how it turns out... ~1~
Kyle Posted January 27, 2008 Posted January 27, 2008 Sup /b/, I've finished recording combos! seriously, it's done, I'm currently ripping yay yay yay yay. hopefully there will be stuff to show tonight. I'm sorry it's taken so long, as this and Character match-ups have been put on hold. (If anyone is particully interested in why, it's because classes just started back-up, New/Last semester = Crazy)/ Combo's videos released SOON. Match-ups, HOS than Eddie. Maybe some help with Ky? <3 you guyz. Kyle~
Hsien_Jo Posted January 28, 2008 Posted January 28, 2008 Sup /b/, I've finished recording combos! seriously, it's done, I'm currently ripping yay yay yay yay. hopefully there will be stuff to show tonight. I'm sorry it's taken so long, as this and Character match-ups have been put on hold. (If anyone is particully interested in why, it's because classes just started back-up, New/Last semester = Crazy)/ Combo's videos released SOON. Match-ups, HOS than Eddie. Maybe some help with Ky? <3 you guyz. Kyle~ My Hands Almost back :D, swelling went down, I'll have a good bit more to contribute once I can put my hands back on the game.
secretsof2113 Posted January 28, 2008 Posted January 28, 2008 A little victory post here. My boyfriend is officially scared of my take on May. He's a May player himself, and I picked up on playing her as well (makes it easier to have someone that knows most of the combos and can show you while you're learning). Well, I've been practicing a lot in the last few weeks, and he decided to play me a few times. I was told I've challenged his manhood. XD
Kyle Posted January 28, 2008 Posted January 28, 2008 Nice, we have May players sprouting up all ov'a. hip hip hooray. So, I am going to do the video for Ryan-Bill's HOS first, as his content is so original he will blow a hole in this community. So far I've got all of the clips cropped, named, order, and the music picked out. There's not much work left except for the "editing". Yay, I'm pretty ecstatic guyz. I've got about 5 and a half mins, Due to the limitations of my Library I've selected a Silverchair song from Straight Lines (Thieving Birds). It is a good song though. What do you guys think? Anyone have good combo/showcasing combo video music around 5:30 in length?
secretsof2113 Posted January 28, 2008 Posted January 28, 2008 Well Kyle, he's striving to eventually be as good as you. He made me watch your matchups at the Ohayocon tournament.
Dogysamich Posted January 29, 2008 Posted January 29, 2008 What do you guys think? Anyone have good combo/showcasing combo video music around 5:30 in length? If you're still up for suggestions; ill look 'round when i get back to my apt. (Im on campus cause i live with stupid people and bad internet. >.> )
Kyle Posted January 29, 2008 Posted January 29, 2008 Please do. =) UPDATE- My Friends HOS video is finished and released. No more obligations/distraction. May is com'N http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?p=218875#post218875
Kyle Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 Damn guys, i just lost about 8 hours of work The video was soooo close to being done too. My CPU is like level 3 or something. She got low on virtual memory and actual Hard drive space at the same time.. it was sick. I will start/finish the CV on Jais computer within two days.
zand Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 please dont make it unwatchable with horrible filters and stupid solar flares and shit
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