ThunderboltZ28 Posted October 5, 2012 Posted October 5, 2012 If Mu doesn't come back I'm going back to subbing Litchi and will probably give Relius a try. Relius is kinda fun. He is too awkward for me to play.
Lythium Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 I'll play as Mu's ghost. Ethereal damage is a thing, right?
Lord Pwnge18 Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 Aw shit, time for SATs Round 2: Electric Boogaloo Dark Souls, hey-o!
Nemesis Posted October 15, 2012 Posted October 15, 2012 I didn't know you liked Noel? Noel's skirt upgrade is aesthetically pleasing
Lord Pwnge18 Posted October 15, 2012 Posted October 15, 2012 Noel's skirt upgrade is aesthetically pleasing Most certainly.
Nemesis Posted October 16, 2012 Posted October 16, 2012 tbh-- I always wanted to play noel but the standard dick that plays her pissed me off so many times I misplaced my hate for her char -- she can actually be fun to fight but drive spammy retards or other lame "tricks" if you can call it that just sorta put me off to the char in general. Sorta like I wanted to play nu back in CT but it seemed like everyone else wanted to spam swords and when I saw how irritating it was I logically decided to play a more balanced character like Jin, you know cause I knew so much about fighters back then.... but I am on the hunt for a 5th char to play inbetween CP, thus far with Lord Ive been trying my hand at makoto -- pretty fun messing up every distortion cause I cant hoold D rofl
toanenadiz Posted October 16, 2012 Posted October 16, 2012 Cor is on a secret mission trying to figure out how to get Mu in BBCP via blackmail.
C0R Posted October 16, 2012 Author Posted October 16, 2012 And getting Gladiator, again. I see everything regardless, behave.
pochp Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 Well, looks like it worked: http://gamenyarth.blog67.fc2.com/blog-entry-12171.html hoping for something more official, but it looks like mu might not be gone.
Nemesis Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 (edited) Cor is on a secret mission trying to figure out how to get Mu in BBCP via blackmail. Sigh-- thatll be the day eh? well Im glad I finally bought a ps3 so that on the off chance CP doesnt release to the Xbox -- also i wish that JP gibberish offered some kind of condolence to me but i dont understand a bit of it-- too bad I married a chinese girl and thus learned mandarin =/ EDIT: http://t.co/liHoJvXE the important line is shown at around the top of the page: 【稼働日未定】[AC] アークシステムワークス「ブレイルブルークロノファンタズマ」New! μ-12とν-13紹介 translating to...: [Release Date Undecided] Arc System Works: BlazBlue Chrono Phantasma μ12 and ν-13 Reveal you knew this was gonna happen. EDIT: https://twitter.com/DLKayEff/status/258413686316740608 if you want to pass the news around -- is this what you were referring too pochp? Edited October 17, 2012 by Nemesis
Lord Pwnge18 Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 Well, looks like it worked: http://gamenyarth.blog67.fc2.com/blog-entry-12171.html hoping for something more official, but it looks like mu might not be gone. !! This is the best news I've heard all month I told you guys, I told you she would be in!
Nemesis Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 yea you were pretty optimistic Lord, hopefully when I upgrade my connection we can have some real good practice sessions in before CP
Nemesis Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 so C0R... (ill just go straight to the point) why are so many people so vocal about their butthurt for mu's return in CP? They talk about her like she is some kind of super char that everyone mastered like Rags? (well not super but you understand) And quite frankly there weren't very many excellent mu12 players -- at least on the xbox end.... and I dont remember a mu slappin everyone outta tourny's... so whats the problem?
toanenadiz Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 Cor even got Nu back. He's the best! And I'm pretty sure people dislike Mu because of the following Mu's reward is too high for low risk moves like 3c, 5c and j.c. It's that aspect of her that's completely unfair. Losing 6k~ for getting tagged at max range with a massive airpoke midscreen is disgusting, it's even worse than CS1 Litchi j.c, which was unanimously stupid.
YukiBlue Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 Mu dishes out the damage fairly. There, I said it. She get's straight up disgusting numbers on CH, But how is that not fair? You deserve to get that 6K if you don't respect her. Most of the Butthurt comes from "Holy shit, I have to change my gameplan?! FRAUD CHARACTER" I see a ton of people on this forum complain about Mu. Touch her and she dies. She touches you and you die. Glass cannon. Boss character. Be quiet.
susano Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 Mu dishes out the damage fairly. There, I said it. She get's straight up disgusting numbers on CH, But how is that not fair? You deserve to get that 6K if you don't respect her. Most of the Butthurt comes from "Holy shit, I have to change my gameplan?! FRAUD CHARACTER" I see a ton of people on this forum complain about Mu. Touch her and she dies. She touches you and you die. Glass cannon. Boss character. Be quiet.
C0R Posted October 17, 2012 Author Posted October 17, 2012 so C0R... (ill just go straight to the point) why are so many people so vocal about their butthurt for mu's return in CP? They talk about her like she is some kind of super char that everyone mastered like Rags? (well not super but you understand) And quite frankly there weren't very many excellent mu12 players -- at least on the xbox end.... and I dont remember a mu slappin everyone outta tourny's... so whats the problem? She's annoying to play against. That's pretty much the reason anyone will complain about anything. There are a good number of real, definitive arguments as to what should probably be changed about the character, however there are aspects of balance in them, which is something people tend to ignore. ---[2b/2a/Antiair/6b]-----------------------[3c/jc/5c/5b]--------------------------[6c/SoD/Yata[1]] Lower echelon damage is good, upper echelon damage is too high, max damage... doesn't really come up. Easy access to strong meterless and metered defensive options, only slightly compensated for with a subpar CA. Weakness is in the hitboxes and not the frame data. On paper they look ridiculous, but in game they can be baited in ways that others cant, such as neutral jumping on Mu's wakeup. Ability to absolutely shut down the neutral game beyond fundamental approaches, requiring excellent play from the opponent to beat. Most player's weaknesses in fighting games is playing neutral, as that's the aspect of the game that requires the most experience, therefore characters like Mu/Rag/Hak seem incredibly overpowered because "it seems that they have to do less work to win than me". Some examples of why people complain about µ. Cor even got Nu back. He's the best! Damn straight.
bakahyl Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 (edited) Eventhough mu is annoying to play against, she is not the annoying one. I have seen people comment me that her combos and style take "little effort to play and use" (which i disagreed) mostly because of her damage output. edit: if the current information is correct, then Mu's overdrive will make her steins fire faster. I could be wrong, but it does not look that gamebreaking to me for sacrificing a burst. Edited October 17, 2012 by bakahyl
pochp Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 I'm looking forward to what they'll do to the new Mu, and I'm glad they didn't change her appearance. Playing against her with a sub is pretty frustrating even if I can get everything that's going on, so I get where people are coming from. I don't think any character deserves that kind of damage, no matter the situation, you can just get lucky and fraud your way to victory. That said I can't wait for AC on psn so I can hit people with dolphins all day
Nemesis Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 I'm looking forward to what they'll do to the new Mu, and I'm glad they didn't change her appearance. Playing against her with a sub is pretty frustrating even if I can get everything that's going on, so I get where people are coming from. I don't think any character deserves that kind of damage, no matter the situation, you can just get lucky and fraud your way to victory. That said I can't wait for AC on psn so I can hit people with dolphins all day err actually I very rarely have any kind of issue fighting other mu players with my subs - I would assume all of us would be able to conceptualize that? and what did you mean about dmg? you mean hate from others or literally she does too much dmg?
pochp Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 It's more about the damage from randomness, you're not really getting a hard read or punishing a dumb decision, you're just poking and hitconfirming. You know that feeling when someone breaks your throw in the corner, you catch them with 5c air unblockable and do over 6k, I don't feel like I've outplayed my opponent or anything :/ welll whatever I'll just keep pressing them buttons and doing all that damage while I still can. Hm guess I worded the frustration part wrong, more like "can be frustrating sometimes" I guess? I dunno, I'm not as comfortable playing my subs and all, so when I face a Mu, I feel like I know what their options are but not how to deal with it correctly, as a lot of stuff isn't as intuitive as with some other characters. It's also not a matchup I fight very often (haven't fought another Mu in a few months now, I think), so it's kind of hard to learn it, and that's also probably a big part of why people don't have a fun time dealing with this character. but anyways, onto more fun stuff... thinking about doing a video to remember all the fun/broken/cool stuff we could do with this character. setups, combos, etc... some of it that was discovered a while ago, as well as some new stuff I've got. Still not done optimizing it but here's some of that new material: back to corner 6c fatal dash 6a jc goldburst crossunder 6a j.2c 2c 5c SoD dash 5c 2c j.c j.2c j.6d 2b 5c 2c j.2c j.5d 2b 5c 2c sj.2c 2c Yata j.2c 3c Omo (8.3k) (still working on this one, crossunder 6a 6b should lead to more) (combo into j.c) j.6[d] airdash (opp rejumps) airthrow ]d[ 5c 6c habacan 6a 6b 5c 6c (4.1k) (3c 6d j.c) j.2c 5c 6c 214d 6a 6c 5d 214d 6c (2.7k, 35 heat) (6c 5d 236a 6d 236d) 3c ]d[ j.c j.2c dash 2c 5c 6c habacan 6a 6b 2c 6c 5d 214d 6c (3.9k, 49 heat?) (6c 5[d] 236a dash jumpforward airdash back) ]d[ 2a 2b 5b 2c 5c SoD (2.3k) (6c 5[d] 236a dash jumpforward airdash back) ]d[ gold burst 5c 6c habacan 6a 6b :5c SoD dash 5c 2c j.c j.2c j.6d 2b 5c 2c j.2c 2c Yata Omo (6.8k) (6c 6[d] 236a dash 5b jumpback airdash forw) ]d[ 2a 2b 5b 5c 3c SoD (2.2k) (6c 6[d] 236a dash 5b jumpback airdash forw) ]d[ gold burst 2c 5c 6c habacan 6a 6b 6a j.2c 2b 6a 6c 5d 214d 6c (4.2k) (6c 6[d] 236a dash) 5b jumpback airdash forw ]d[ gold burst 2c 5c 6c habacan 6a 6b 6a j.2c 2b 6a 6c 5d 214d 6c (5.3k) if anyone has any tech they've been hiding all this time and want to share it/me to include it, doesn't have to be practical! last thing, kinda random and hard to tell, but I think that art is going to be the in game character portrait.
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