Adelheid Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 As far as I know these were her core changes (from GG onwards): Really the bigger issue with N.B is that it disappears when Justice is hit. If you just made it eat everything she would still die to Venom throwing projectiles around it. None of your suggestions would meaningfully improve that matchup.
Hecatom Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 (edited) the problem comes that they want to make justice a dedicated zoner, with not real way to get in, but the current tools dont help to not get outzoned as i see it there are only 2 ways give to justice some tools to help to get in make the zoning game stronger, like michel zord beating projectiles or something like that Edited July 5, 2012 by Hecatom
Blade Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 Does N.B. disappear when Justice is blocking too? Anyways, my statement about giving her Imperial Ray back (or a toned down version) still stands...give it a forward projectile box just in front of her and below, moving up and forwards until up...a well-timed airdash could get over it, but not much else.
quangdieu1997 Posted July 7, 2012 Posted July 7, 2012 some more [A.B.A] 5HS has slower start-up {f.S, 5HS} doesn't combo some correction [sol] HS Fafnir doesn't combo from normal f.S, only counter hit f.S and a bug already got found (by Robo-Ky player GAKU) [Robo-Ky] doing 2HS on the moment he explodes freezes the game The bug thing is interesting, but definitly not a.b.a's gatling I mean, f.s doesn't combo to 5H anymore, that's bad
MacArthur Blunts Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 The bug thing is interesting, but definitly not a.b.a's gatling I mean, f.s doesn't combo to 5H anymore, that's bad Not so much. It was kind of retarded when she was in moroha mode and she would just spam f.S hoping for a CH then she basically sends you straight to fuck mountain. Removing the 5H gatling will force a bitch to think of a little bit more difficult ways to get her damage other than f.S hit? oh hurr durr here we go!
TD Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 fs 41236s should still work, but that might be the only thing that reaches that far. :x
Darkside937 Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 I don't even consider the loss of f.S > 5H a nerf, just the result of 5H's startup being slower (the actual nerf). A.B.A. still has several good options from f.S, mainly 2H(2 hit) > iad, etc or 6H(1 hit) > Rekkas, etc. You could even go straight into Rekkas from f.S. The only thing that might be harder is hit-confirming off f.S since you can't chain into 5H for plenty of time to confirm and +1 frame advantage, but since you can still do that by chaining into 2H(1 hit) to confirm or letting it go into (2 hit) for +2 on block, vacuum, and access to an FRC, who cares?
fogelstrom Posted July 25, 2012 Posted July 25, 2012 Is there any information regarding on what _ARCADE SYSTEM_ +R will be on or does anyone know this information? I just assume it's gonna be on the Taito Type X2 but I'd love to know for sure since I'm personally thinking about buying 1 or 2 Atomiswave arcade cabinets and beeing able to plan ahead is worth gold.
Hecatom Posted July 25, 2012 Posted July 25, 2012 Is there any information regarding on what _ARCADE SYSTEM_ +R will be on or does anyone know this information? I just assume it's gonna be on the Taito Type X2 but I'd love to know for sure since I'm personally thinking about buying 1 or 2 Atomiswave arcade cabinets and beeing able to plan ahead is worth gold. Sega's RingEdge 2, you can see the logo on the official page and the promotional pics of the game http://www.guiltygearx.com/
9TNine Posted July 25, 2012 Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) Is there any information regarding on what _ARCADE SYSTEM_ +R will be on or does anyone know this information? I just assume it's gonna be on the Taito Type X2 but I'd love to know for sure since I'm personally thinking about buying 1 or 2 Atomiswave arcade cabinets and beeing able to plan ahead is worth gold. Ringedge 2 is also new hardware, +R being the first game to use it. It sounds like it's Network-based, similar to NESiCA, which to my knowledge doesn't work outside of Japan. May want to wait and see how it plays out. ArcSys using Taito Type X2 is probably never happening again. -9 Edited July 27, 2012 by 9TNine
fogelstrom Posted July 26, 2012 Posted July 26, 2012 Thanks for the info. Might aswell drop the idea due to expenses then.
youcanwonder Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 sorry its a lot to read...but wondering if anybody knows when gg is actually suppose to be released??
Circuitous Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 No console or arcade release date has been announced.
Horokei Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 https://twitter.com/Yamanaka_ARC/status/233458939851853824
kosmos badgirl Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 So 20 of September in arcades, I hope the console version comes before the end of the year.
sonnywortzik Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 Maybe ArcSys can still fulfill their summer 2012 release of AC+ by releasing it a month before the arcade of +R. Maybe down the line they can implement an update like how SSF4 went with AE. I just wanna play GG now since I have a decent arcade stick but, having patience is so hard.
zeth07 Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 Maybe ArcSys can still fulfill their summer 2012 release of AC+ by releasing it a month before the arcade of +R. Maybe down the line they can implement an update like how SSF4 went with AE. I just wanna play GG now since I have a decent arcade stick but, having patience is so hard. Pretty sure the AC+ thing has been folded over into +R.
sonnywortzik Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 Really? Has anyone from ArcSys reported that they dropped the console version? I am trying to look for a source on this but, all reports ever come up is news about AC+R?
zeth07 Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 Really? Has anyone from ArcSys reported that they dropped the console version? I am trying to look for a source on this but, all reports ever come up is news about AC+R? I haven't read anything officially but it wouldn't really make sense to release AC+ on PS3/360 when +R is right around the corner and will more than likely come to consoles a few months after arcade release. But that is just my thoughts and not facts. They could very well still release AC+ on PSN/XBL as a way to get people interested again before +R is released later. Guess we gotta wait and see.
sonnywortzik Posted August 9, 2012 Posted August 9, 2012 Yeah I can see where you are coming from but, knowing ArcSys and our history of getting games from them 6-8 months after arcade release, it'll even seem more of a drag to wait for it to come out now. Hopefully we don't have to wait that long and who knows maybe they pull a BBCP and surprise us by saying that GGXXAC+ is already in digital stores lol.
ElvenShadow Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 (edited) Some Japanese players at the last loketest told me that the console version is regular AC+ but for all we know, they don't know any more than the people on this thread and it is all speculation. Even if we get regular AC+ first on console, it is pretty much a given that we eventually will get console R. I just hope it doesn't take too long. Edit: well... Looks like they were wrong! Edited August 10, 2012 by ElvenShadow
WolfCrimson Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 (edited) HELL YES GGAC+R COMING TO CONSOLES! Now the big question: WHEN?! EDIT: Huh? The article on SRK was updated and seems like they changed it, so no news on PSN/XBL version of GGAC+(R?). Edited August 10, 2012 by WolfCrimson
sonnywortzik Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 (edited) Oh man the wait is unbearable. I just want an annoucement on a release date for consoles. At least for sure +R will be coming over which is a good thing. I'll be happy to just get AC right now. Edit: read the update. *Hype has been contained.* Edited August 10, 2012 by sonnywortzik
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