A.X.I.S. Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 Dear ASW: Please take away the fact that itsuu doesn't get effected by magnetism. That shit is really gay. ASW please reply with this request or I will have to fuck your wives thank you.
Moy_X7 Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 Yup, tried it and even Noel with her crappy reach 5A will tag you out of 5C. The only way it will work is if you use it at its absolute max range and have the opponent barrier block the 6A. So 5C after 6A is pretty damn iffy. Oh Jin, you and your shitty hit/hurt-boxes lol. @Batou - That's pretty much what I do against Jyo. The right use of reversals will force the opponent into trying to bait it and not reset pressure for free, you can also use that to escape pressure or to push buttons if you're gutsy. I just need to force Jyo to stop doing wake-up DP as that's pretty much the most predictable place to DP. It's a good thing that I know Jin's DP blind spots so it doesn't matter if he DPs or not but if he does then I'll just take half of his health in one go lol.
Lich Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 Yup, tried it and even Noel with her crappy reach 5A will tag you out of 5C. The only way it will work is if you it at its absolute max range and have the opponent barrier block the 6A. So 5C after 6A is pretty damn iffy. Oh Jin, you and your shitty hit/hurt-boxes lol. @Batou - That's pretty much what I do against Jyo. The right use of reversals will force the opponent into trying to bait it and not reset pressure for free, you can also use that to escape pressure or to push buttons if you're gutsy. I just need to force Jyo to stop doing wake-up DP as that's pretty much the most predictable place to DP. It's a good thing that I know Jin's DP blind spots so it doesn't matter if he DPs or not but if he does then I'll just take half of his health in one go lol.That shit is -4 on block isn't it? Of course you can't do anything afterwards. Watchu thinking mayne.
Moy_X7 Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) Oh hit, breh, of course you wouldn't push buttons after a -4 move unless you condition them to look for a reversal lol Edit: Wait a damn minute, I have no idea why I even did all that. The point was to do it on hit. Herp da fucking derp, I need to get some sleep lol. Edit 2: Well, the answer is still the same, it doesn't work because Jin's hurt-box expands a hella lot during 5C and you'll get tagged by even Noel's 5A. Edit 3: GGs to Dr. Patient's room Shoutouts to furious D mash by Gelatea Shoutouts to Astrolls Shoutouts to trolling Shoutouts to dat fitting room name "Stop, that' s gay" as there were a lot of "stop, that's gay" moments out there. Edited July 11, 2012 by Moy_X7
Dr.Patient Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 This Noel in my room is such a scrub, just wow. Edit: GGs Moy, first time I've actually been able to sit down and get a few games with you.
Star-Demon Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 just do what i did Whaaaaat? yes. do EXACTLY what LK did. jaaaaaaa, 2a AA, staff recall etc XD Whaaaat nooooo. That was NOT serious. You were just not blowing it up. Troll match.
mAc Chaos Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 His live expired iirc. Damn. I was just playing him last month.
pneuma Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 You move too slow, your neutral is lacking, your execution needs more work. You let me get away with shit Skye would never let me do. Practice practice practice. Make them hands bleed bro. Look forward to future games. It took me till the end matches to realize your tager is less patient than most. I should have pushed a lot more and tried more ara bs. I played with a defensive mindset which is pretty dumb for my characters. I need to stop assuming everyone is >. But looking forward to more games, always welcome anytime I have a room.
susano Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 True, just DP and they lose. I had a room open for over 30 minutes. No one came. Not even fucking cookie. The fuck is wrong with you guys? Evo should inspire people not make them wind down. Next time you have a room open, I'll be there. I was training myself on being more aggressive. I'm too laid back in this game, allowing people to get away with stupid things. So in a way, I was in a practice session.
Lord Knight Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 Whaaaaat? Whaaaat nooooo. That was NOT serious. You were just not blowing it up. Troll match. all that stuff is legit, feux has like 0 ground game so you have to do strong AA/air to air stuff, and its generally too hard to hit bang with itsuu
Star-Demon Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) all that stuff is legit, feux has like 0 ground game so you have to do strong AA/air to air stuff, and its generally too hard to hit bang with itsuu But bang has all sorts of really good options in air - he can also j.a, j.b and J.c - he has normals for each air direction, double airdash, can cancel air movement with a kunai...he can 623b if he really wanted to... Meeting bang in air just sounds like a bad idea, especially when j.a, while fast, is not as range-friendly as J.b[m] or J.c[m] Bang doesn't have good AA, but neither does litchi. timing the 2A AA is hard because he'll just J.c, you really have to make him think he's going to hit or crossup, which requires you to know if you have to backdash, cross under, or what. 5A AA doesn't work well for me against bang. 2C is too slow. I have never managed to 2A AA anything. Edited July 11, 2012 by Star-Demon
Amadeus46Art Posted July 11, 2012 Author Posted July 11, 2012 Yeah but...LK won. Soooooooooooooo... maybe listen to him? :3
Lord Knight Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 But bang has all sorts of really good options in air - he can also j.a, j.b and J.c - he has normals for each air direction, double airdash, can cancel air movement with a kunai...he can 623b if he really wanted to... Meeting bang in air just sounds like a bad idea, especially when j.a, while fast, is not as range-friendly as J.b[m] or J.c[m] Bang doesn't have good AA, but neither does litchi. timing the 2A AA is hard because he'll just J.c, you really have to make him think he's going to hit or crossup, which requires you to know if you have to backdash, cross under, or what. 5A AA doesn't work well for me against bang. 2C is too slow. I have never managed to 2A AA anything. you need to know how to use 2a/5a AA properly vs bang specifically, slide 2a AA will beat his jB if they dont do it deep. like i said before, feux has 0 ground game, so 99 percent of his aerials are not deep, he'll go for kunai instead kunai really fucking bothered me, if they do that you can try itsuu guard point > C follow up or just DP, tsubame is great cause it'll even kill d nails and hit him jA is pretty much unstoppable air to air if they are above you also, obviously 5dd is probably her best AA overall
Mucky Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 Dear ASW: Please take away the fact that itsuu doesn't get effected by magnetism. That shit is really gay. ASW please reply with this request or I will have to fuck your wives thank you. when I first learned that itsuu ignores magnetism I wanted to cry then I remembered there's like 6 other characters that don't give a fuck about magnetism then I was okay with it
A.X.I.S. Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 It took me till the end matches to realize your tager is less patient than most. I should have pushed a lot more and tried more ara bs. I played with a defensive mindset which is pretty dumb for my characters. I need to stop assuming everyone is >. But looking forward to more games, always welcome anytime I have a room. I only played that way because you let me. I normally just walk forward and tank arakune. But since you didn't control your spacing well enough I felt I didn't need to tank because you would have took advantage of the presumed respect. when I first learned that itsuu ignores magnetism I wanted to cry then I remembered there's like 6 other characters that don't give a fuck about magnetism then I was okay with it I tend to forget that because I only fought 3 Litchi's a handful of time since this game came out. I really find itsuu stance beating mag disgusting since there would be a interesting thing if I can pull her during it. That and match would be so much easier.
Lord Knight Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 well grapplers are lame so its all good also fuck arakune
Zeron_X25 Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 Tager feels less of a grappler now tbh. I just hit people with 5A combos all day and win.
Mucky Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 I tend to forget that because I only fought 3 Litchi's a handful of time since this game came out. I really find itsuu stance beating mag disgusting since there would be a interesting thing if I can pull her during it. That and match would be so much easier. What bothers me about itsuu is that Tager can't just run up and hit her with a low. He needs a rocket propelled version of 3C or something.
TD Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 can tager punish litchi in between the first and second hits of itsuuB if he IB's the first hit? can he sledge through?
Mucky Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 He can sledge even without IBing the first hit. He can also 360/720 if the Litchi did it too close. But the Litchi shouldn't be canceling into an attack unless she guardpointed something or Tager tried to superjump.
TD Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 oh l see, so the problem is with itsuu stance itself, not the followups. hmm, if you know she wont cancel into anything, l guess you can just keep walking up to her as if she's not even using it? magnetism may not work but she's still stationary. you may not be able to hit her still but you could still chase her right into a corner and dare her to sj over you/whatever other defensive shit she has
Lich Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 oh l see, so the problem is with itsuu stance itself, not the followups. hmm, if you know she wont cancel into anything, l guess you can just keep walking up to her as if she's not even using it? magnetism may not work but she's still stationary. you may not be able to hit her still but you could still chase her right into a corner and dare her to sj over you/whatever other defensive shit she has I'm pretty sure the real issue is how slow all of tagers normals are so that when he actually gets to her shes just like "LOL ITSUU IS THE ANSWER TO EVERYTHING" and then profit.
A.X.I.S. Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 Nah the problem is Tager doesn't have a run/dash so he can't run up and hit her for doing it. Then it's the fact that magnetism doesn't pull her in while she's doing it.
TD Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 @lich if thats the case then l dunno what to say, lol. l guess that why the MU is unwinnable just like alot of his MU's if they are played correctly. poor tager. l half-wonder sometimes if some tager players are just masochists in disguise. l just looked up his 5b, its 10f and hits low. that seems like a reasonable startup to punish itsuu with but hitbox wise l dunno if it'd reach.
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