BatousaiJ Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 Omg guys,how to deal with Arakune's Astral?One does not simply jump and hope the shit won't touch me. I've never had a ara try to astral me in netplay in all my thousands of matches. Kind of makes me sad. I do remember just walking into Rachel's astral when someone tried it on me for the first time because I was glad to see it. Never gotten astrolled by Hakumen, Hazama, Tao or Carl either now that I think about it. That's kind of disappointing.
Skye Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 calling out skye It moves in a predictable pattern. You just have to super jump and then double jump when it's going to be nearby. I haven't performed an Astral with intentions for it to actually hit since October, 2009, my BB life was 1 month old.
Dont_Explain Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 I kinda wonder if Ragna could just ID through Arakune's astral. Wouldn't be too surprising though.
Starlight777 Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 I remember getting astraled by Hakumen because I thought I could grab him.
Dont_Explain Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 Weird....you can stand inside Arakune as long as he isn't moving. Why would they not give him a hitbox through the whole thing?
AchedSphinx Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 I kinda wonder if Ragna could just ID through Arakune's astral. Wouldn't be too surprising though. Arakune is completely immune during it for like 300 or more frames. In a match a long time ago, I did Lambda's astral on an Arakune the moment he did his Astral. There were two Astrals done that day, and neither hit, how embarrassing. I subsequently did A drive and won. I really think Arakune's hate that Lambda has a drive.
Dont_Explain Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 Lol no I don't plan on hitting him. I just wanted to use invincibility cause dodging it is easy.
Chris Chaos Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 I kinda wonder if Ragna could just ID through Arakune's astral. Wouldn't be too surprising though. Nope, you will get by Ara's AH. Lol no I don't plan on hitting him. I just wanted to use invincibility cause dodging it is easy. Not enough invul frames in ID to last through Ara's AH. You'll get hit with Ara's AH. How do I know this? I was in LiEUTENANT's room and saw him attempt to do this a long time ago, and he's the DP gawd so...
pneuma Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 I've never had a ara try to astral me in netplay in all my thousands of matches. Kind of makes me sad. I do remember just walking into Rachel's astral when someone tried it on me for the first time because I was glad to see it. Never gotten astrolled by Hakumen, Hazama, Tao or Carl either now that I think about it. That's kind of disappointing. That's because arastroll doesn't do anything. If you just hold block the whole time and get crushed a few times.... then it ends and he has recovery. The only saving grace is invisible astral with curse activated. It's still prettyamusing. I call those rage quit frames
Dont_Explain Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 Not enough invul frames in ID to last through Ara's AH. You'll get hit with Ara's AH. How do I know this? I was in LiEUTENANT's room and saw him attempt to do this a long time ago, and he's the DP gawd so... Well if he goes in a straight line you can do it if you time it right, but when he bounces around you get fucked up. Either way, I'll forget and be like "Wait which way does he go again?" *runs into him*
Moy_X7 Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 I've never had a ara try to astral me in netplay in all my thousands of matches. Kind of makes me sad. This Never gotten astrolled by Hakumen, Hazama, Tao or Carl either now that I think about it. I might have gotten Astrolled by Hakumen and Hazama, not by the rest though. lol, AI Hazama Asstrolled me twice the other day with 6A > Asstroll.
mAc Chaos Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 Haku and Carl's astrals are probably the hardest to land.
Starlight777 Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 The day I get astraled by Carl, I'll have a BSOD. Seriously, how is that supposed to hit anyone with the slightest bit of common sense?
zeth07 Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 Haku and Carl's astrals are probably the hardest to land. Why would Hakumen's be hard to land? I mean in the sense that you are actually trying to land it to begin with, so ignoring his need to use magatama to function as a character.
Zeron_X25 Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 Seriously, how is that supposed to hit anyone with the slightest bit of common sense? It hit me.
Tong Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 in general, there was a general lack of knowledge there, despite the skill level being all right. they were all really surprised when i clashed arakune super with 4d, made jin c dp whiff, etc Yeah, the guys don't use to explore the game much around here. There's a certain lack of omgnewtech due to most playing just for fun. That and the low number of dedicated players.
mAc Chaos Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 (edited) Why would Hakumen's be hard to land? I mean in the sense that you are actually trying to land it to begin with, so ignoring his need to use magatama to function as a character. As soon as you get 8 stars (and the astral available, portrait flashing), everyone starts playing more cautiously against you and looks for the counter. You can't combo into it unlike other characters. It's also not an attack that you control but something they do. You have to have the person just run right into it and when you're going for that it's usually more obvious. Also, what you just mentioned about needing the starts to function as a character. People can usually tell when you're not using stars when you otherwise would be. Edited July 17, 2012 by mAc Chaos
TD Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 l just saw haku's asstroll today shit is not hard to land
zeth07 Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 As soon as you get 8 stars, everyone starts playing more cautiously against you and looks for the counter. You can't combo into it unlike other characters. It's also not an attack that you control but something they do. You have to have the person just run right into it and when you're going for that it's usually more obvious. Couldn't you just do it on reaction to things defensively? Like you're holding downback blocking and they do an overhead, you react and now they are dead. In my head I'm just imagining it being used just like all his other drives would already, except it is universal outside of projectiles of course. I mean I'm not saying it's like Ragna's easy to land, just that I don't think it would be that hard to land generally speaking.
mAc Chaos Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 Couldn't you just do it on reaction to things defensively? Like you're holding downback blocking and they do an overhead, you react and now they are dead. In my head I'm just imagining it being used just like all his other drives would already, except it is universal outside of projectiles of course. I mean I'm not saying it's like Ragna's easy to land, just that I don't think it would be that hard to land generally speaking. Yeah, but if they're not retarded then they aren't going to just go HERP DERP HERE'S AN EASY MOVE TO ASTRAL. They'll try to fuck with your reactions.
BatousaiJ Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 Haku and Carl's astrals are probably the hardest to land. Dude, I don't even play Hakubro and I've landed his astral multiple times.
mAc Chaos Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 I didn't say it was impossible. I just said it was the hardest along with Carl. That's a relative statement. If you're going to say it's easier then you need somebody to compare it to.
toanenadiz Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 Yeah, but if they're not retarded then they aren't going to just go HERP DERP HERE'S AN EASY MOVE TO ASTRAL. They'll try to fuck with your reactions. That's only because you normally use drive a bunch so people are already looking out for your astral.
mAc Chaos Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 That's only because you normally use drive a bunch so people are already looking out for your astral. But I never astral. :P If you're paying attention to the pace of the match though, you should be able to tell when they want to go for it. Like, if you're playing Ragna and want to astral, you just keep doing what you're doing and throw an astral at the end of your combo. Not much changes. If you're Hakumen, you have to avoid following up our combos to keep the 8 stars, and you're going to want them to come to you, so you'll suddenly start playing more defensively. That's their cue to try and bait it.
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