tofurr Posted July 9, 2013 Posted July 9, 2013 IMO, most of Rachel's bad match-ups will still be bad, they'll just be easier to deal with thanks to new changes made to the game, like IOH working on Litchi and Hazama, Lotus makes zoning effective against someone like Tao, being able to block Hakumen's drive, and no primers, just to name some.
Errol Posted July 9, 2013 Posted July 9, 2013 All of the Extend threads are in the archive now still 0 posts in the archive for rachel vs tao
Errol Posted July 9, 2013 Posted July 9, 2013 IMO, most of Rachel's bad match-ups will still be bad, they'll just be easier to deal with thanks to new changes made to the game, like IOH working on Litchi and Hazama, Lotus makes zoning effective against someone like Tao, being able to block Hakumen's drive, and no primers, just to name some. What are her bad match-ups. Try to play Rachel online in Extend and do your optimal combos. Maybe with a solid 3 or 4 but other than that you'll just be doing stuff that may or may not work and and get blue beats everywhere. is she worse online than Makoto?
tofurr Posted July 9, 2013 Posted July 9, 2013 still 0 posts in the archive for rachel vs tao 6A and keeping rods out are good things in this match-up. What are her bad match-ups. Litchi, Hazama, Hakumen, Lambda/Nu, Carl, Tao, and Mu for sure. Probably Relius, Ragna, Jin, Bang and Valk as well. I haven't really been playing for the past year, so I'm not 100% sure on those last five I listed, but I am on those first seven.
Bibiquadium Posted July 9, 2013 Posted July 9, 2013 The only reason why Makoto online somewhat suck is that you keep gotta adapt to new charge timings and some of her combos require very specific charges, and her oki almost disapear but can be replaced by resets when playing a bad connections, but I only play Makoto because Iove doing her combos and removing that from me means a lot. Rachel on the other hand its just an overall, everything that you should be doing might drop, even your mid screen oki/knock down combos and lvl 3 j.2Cs etc.
Errol Posted July 9, 2013 Posted July 9, 2013 The only reason why Makoto online somewhat suck is that you keep gotta adapt to new charge timings and some of her combos require very specific charges, and her oki almost disapear but can be replaced by resets when playing a bad connections, but I only play Makoto because Iove doing her combos and removing that from me means a lot. Rachel on the other hand its just an overall, everything that you should be doing might drop, even your mid screen oki/knock down combos and lvl 3 j.2Cs etc. Do you play Rachel or what you have heard from people? Most annoying part with Makoto is infinite rush and PF3? Any charges where you use visual cues suck. Like if I want to do 5d > 66 2D, I use the end of 5d as the visual cue and so it can end up subtly off. j.B>j.D is no problem because it is mechanical and don't need to react to anything that could lag. Litchi, Hazama, Hakumen, Lambda/Nu, Carl, Tao, and Mu for sure. Probably Relius, Ragna, Jin, Bang and Valk as well. I haven't really been playing for the past year, so I'm not 100% sure on those last five I listed, but I am on those first seven. bad matchups except against the other chars I play then? FML
kodimt Posted July 9, 2013 Posted July 9, 2013 Rachel is not bad. I even think her combos are easy, but I've played nothing but her since CT, and I try to play in 3 only.
Rhiya Posted July 9, 2013 Posted July 9, 2013 Rachel is an exec-heavy character. Just gonna warn you, the awesome stuff you get isn't free at all. It's effort all across the board.
Bibiquadium Posted July 9, 2013 Posted July 9, 2013 It has been told to me by fellow Rachel players that has long since gave up on Netplay in general at this point. Sometimes online you'll let go of your charge and it'll keep going for a bit, that's why PF might be a bitch sometimes. You try to go visually but the game says no.
Errol Posted July 9, 2013 Posted July 9, 2013 yeah it is the PF minigame, it is like leading a target with a gun, you have to 'lead the lag' and if you get it you win, if you don't your opponent lives and gets out for free. Moy goes in on his router at this time. Rachel is an exec-heavy character. Just gonna warn you, the awesome stuff you get isn't free at all. It's effort all across the board. Yeah, what actually is hard. though I seem to remember even simple combos using wind being annoying.
StayFree( ' 3') Posted July 9, 2013 Posted July 9, 2013 Anyone playing right now? yup. sent you a PSN message...10 minutes ago.
Errol Posted July 9, 2013 Posted July 9, 2013 yup. sent you a PSN message...10 minutes ago. He has notifications turned off so he never sees any PSN message
StayFree( ' 3') Posted July 9, 2013 Posted July 9, 2013 He has notifications turned off so he never sees any PSN message yeah, was told that a while ago, but last time we played he responded. thought he might've changed it.
StayFree( ' 3') Posted July 9, 2013 Posted July 9, 2013 (edited) He's playing me. ah, I have finally found you my sweet toan prince. Edited July 9, 2013 by StayFree( ' 3')
TD Posted July 9, 2013 Posted July 9, 2013 should I pick up Rachel. I want to mash anti-air more. rachel is really fun, at least try her for a little and see if you like her, playstyle wise
Bibiquadium Posted July 9, 2013 Posted July 9, 2013 I mash D with Makoto, but not in other people's pressure though, so I guess it doesn't classify as the same type of D.
TD Posted July 9, 2013 Posted July 9, 2013 you can it's just silly to do so? well l guess rachel is kinda like being a manager, her specials being the employees. and wind being the budget. not like the defensive behemoth that is hakumen, but it's fun commanding everything on the screen, like good employees
mAc Chaos Posted July 9, 2013 Posted July 9, 2013 I mash D with Makoto, but not in other people's pressure though, so I guess it doesn't classify as the same type of D. get on my level son i mash d during my own pressure ragna thinks "oh i got 50 heat ill just ID and RC out" nope wrong get counter'd
tofurr Posted July 9, 2013 Posted July 9, 2013 Lol, that's actually a really good analogy for Rachel.
Bibiquadium Posted July 9, 2013 Posted July 9, 2013 Bait bursts with Astrals, like any other Hakumen.
Chaoschao222 Posted July 9, 2013 Posted July 9, 2013 Bait bursts with Astrals, like any other Hakumen. But bursts are projectiles and beat Haku's Astral
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