toanenadiz Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 Stuff Well, isn't that the point of Jin? Doesn't finally landing that hit without a great overhead make all the work worth it? ggs to blue beast, lucia waltez, dont explain, creamy man can ( who i'm p sure is actually stayfree), lich, and lastly, guardian for the ft3-turned-ft4. shoutouts to a certain astral not connecting when it should have, then getting astraled the next round when l (possibly) shouldn't have. i'm 200% sure l blocked that astral with barrier, l was in blocking barrier animation. i'm assuming bang's astral is unblockable or a throw, gonna check the wiki overall fun rm It's a throw
TD Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 l see. didn't know that. well then, l perfectly deserved that astral for my own ignorance l suppose.
Moy_X7 Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 Bang's 6B isn't all that great either. It avoids lows and is -1, but he still doesn't get anything off it unless you RC or it is CH and even then I'm sure it isn't much damage. You either gotta just do it and RC, or just do it and hope it CHs to get something off it. You have 5C as an overhead though, 6B is just there as a gimme. It's not really about the normal being bad, it's just that he's the ONLY character in the game that has a horrible overhead and doesn't have any other type of overhead to compensate for it. -4 on block, crappy range, leads to nothing on hit (not even frame advantage against certain characters), it only gatlings from the jabs and 5B which makes it easy to escape if you feel it's coming (reversal, backdash). Really, it's only saving grace it's that it has a 19F start-up... Enough of this though, after 4 games I should have just learned to deal with it XD
mAc Chaos Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 Jin's mixup is good enough as it is. He's not supposed to just go for straight overheads as his mixup, you have tons of frame traps and things like that. The overhead is there just to make sure the opponent doesn't fall asleep.
Guardian Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 GGs to gli, HM and everyone else I played today. Replacing Relius with Mu as a sub was an excellent idea.
Skye Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 Sounds like a better version of Hazama's overhead, and both require 50 heat to be useful.
zeth07 Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 You have 5C as an overhead though, 6B is just there as a gimme. It's not really about the normal being bad, it's just that he's the ONLY character in the game that has a horrible overhead and doesn't have any other type of overhead to compensate for it. -4 on block, crappy range, leads to nothing on hit (not even frame advantage against certain characters), it only gatlings from the jabs and 5B which makes it easy to escape if you feel it's coming (reversal, backdash). Really, it's only saving grace it's that it has a 19F start-up... Enough of this though, after 4 games I should have just learned to deal with it XD He's also the only character with EX moves....
Moy_X7 Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 He's also the only character with EX moves.... With DP D and j.236D being the only truly useful ones. 236D is extremely situational and easy to jump out of on reaction. 214D should really only be used against the projectile zoners when they whiff something. Besides, he needs his meter for a once in a match overhead lol. I wonder what Jin would do if j.236D didn't work the way it did. Just hope to frame trap someone to death? Hope to fish for CHs all the time? lol
NeoGio0o Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 Damn zeth.... Bang needs EX moves, an anti air and +3 on all his moves. Shouldn't you appreciate the fact that you have two air dashes? I thank net play godz everyday for my 2B that is -4.
Guardian Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 For the love of God if someone has a room, plz invite me. These random rooms are depressing. Also, if you're not happy with bang, you could play Relius, and know what a truly average character is like.
Haven Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 (edited) Damn zeth.... Bang needs EX moves, an anti air and +3 on all his moves. Shouldn't you appreciate the fact that you have two air dashes? I thank net play godz everyday for my 2B that is -4. Thank you lol. I don't have problems with his overhead, but uh... Hazama gets like 5K and most of his meter back with his overhead, that shit is definitely more efficient than Jins. As a whole, they both work the same in terms of how they are used though. Edited May 15, 2012 by Haven
Mucky Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 I thank net play godz everyday for my 2B that is -4. WHAT And here I am respecting the 2B tick throw setup XDest does to me.
Moy_X7 Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 Doesn't 2B low profile under pretty much everything? lol
NeoGio0o Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 It's a good poke but I appreciate It being only -4. I also appreciate having three jumps because I know people wish they can just mash anti airs and acquire damage. Thank you Aksys Godz
Mucky Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 I block the 2B, but if it's -4 on block I shouldn't have to respect anything she does afterward, barring an immediate 5C. I'm Tager, I should be making people hate themselves.
zeth07 Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 Damn zeth.... Bang needs EX moves, an anti air and +3 on all his moves. Shouldn't you appreciate the fact that you have two air dashes? I thank net play godz everyday for my 2B that is -4. I can't tell if you're sarcastically "agreeing" with me on my point or if you actually think I was complaining about the EX moves instead of me mentioning them because of my original point about his point. So I don't know what to say, lol.
Dont_Explain Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 I think BB is just that game where it's easy to hate something/wish you had something better.
Lich Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 I can't tell if you're sarcastically "agreeing" with me on my point or if you actually think I was complaining about the EX moves instead of me mentioning them because of my original point about his point. So I don't know what to say, lol. Bottom line, Bang is already good. He's sarcastically calling you out on how much you hate on your own character. lol
Lord Knight Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 i guess people forgot that jin is better than a bunch of characters at converting hits?
zeth07 Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 Bottom line, Bang is already good. He's sarcastically calling you out on how much you hate on your own character. lol But we weren't even talking about Bang...and I wasn't even hating on my character. I just mentioned 6B as an example cause of what I already explained. He mentions Bang has 5C, and Jin is the only character with a "terrible overhead", but I said he's also the only character with EX moves. Which all goes back to the point I originally made. So I don't really see what this has to do with me or Bang, lol.
Skye Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 i guess people forgot that jin is better than a bunch of characters at converting hits? LK, can we go a few rounds?
Starlight777 Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 GGs everyone I played today. Unfortunately when I got around to Skye and Moy netplay started being a cheap laggy slut.
Moy_X7 Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 i guess people forgot that jin is better than a bunch of characters at converting hits? You have to be at the right distance though. We can't just fish for CHs with j.C, 5B, and 5C like we used to. We get nothing if we're not near the corner or point blank. I'll give you the Ice Blades though, those things have a shitload of hit-stun on CH and lead to too much damage for a projectile lol.
NeoGio0o Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 Lol I was speaking in reference to the BB3 wish list.
Moy_X7 Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 lmao, I didn't know that the poison still took effect during FRKZ. That's some lulzy shit.
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