mAc Chaos Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 sorry to break it to you son, it wasnt nerfed the way you think it was. you still gonna get hotarued and its still going to hurt badly. actaully i think alot worse in cp because lol overdrive. dat ass ragnarok We've become a Haku hive mind.
psycofang2 Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 We've become a Haku hive mind. le void connects us
Zeron_X25 Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 sorry to break it to you son, it wasnt nerfed the way you think it was. I'm talking about the whiff nerf. Or am I mistaken? That was the only thing that really pissed me off as a Tager tbh...
Mucky Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 if anything mac won't be able to mash drive with wild abandon anymore i doubt that will stop him from trying
psycofang2 Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 I'm talking about the whiff nerf. Or am I mistaken? That was the only thing that really pissed me off as a Tager tbh... no its still there actually hotaru throwing you a bit higher gives him MORE options. if it was lower hed hit the ground before being able to hit D. ppl always fall for that. it may be possible for whiff specials off a a tk so in that regard it might be stronger.
mAc Chaos Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 It got nerfed by making him go higher up into the air, but it's only going to come into play in a few situations. But in return he does like 9k off it now. Tager is like one of the only characters that can beat Hotaru straight out though. Hotaru is actually unsafe on Tager.
Mucky Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 Tager is like one of the only characters that can beat Hotaru straight out though. Hotaru is actually unsafe on Tager. This is true. lol2bwhiff
Zeron_X25 Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 It got nerfed by making him go higher up into the air, but it's only going to come into play in a few situations. But in return he does like 9k off it now. Tager is like one of the only characters that can beat Hotaru straight out though. Hotaru is actually unsafe on Tager. The overdrive loop thing?
psycofang2 Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 if gets predicatble yeah, im unsure of anyone who would throw it out mid block string except me, to bait out mashers. or do it vs that faggots j2C.
Sechs Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 ggs to psychofang, star-demon, & swagna5b shout-outs to being so unmemorable your name remains forgotten & becomes a meaningless statistic on someone's d-card.
psycofang2 Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 my bad mir i knew i fought another hakumen. somewhere.
Yggjrasil Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 Holy shit, my bad. I just remember people and matches that you know...weren't so one-sided?
Yggjrasil Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 I wasn't talking about you, Psy. I meant like where I actually had to work for a win.
psycofang2 Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 no i was just askin bro. i was kinda curious.
Sechs Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 No worries, Psy. Beneath the banner of the White Void, all Hakumen stand tall together.
psycofang2 Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 your execution has gotten leagues better than i last remeber sechs, its becoming more fluid and less broken.
Sechs Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 *Looks at CT replays and a part of me dies* Thanks, that means a lot of since you've basically seen my overall progression from those dark, uber-scrubby days.
mAc Chaos Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 if gets predicatble yeah, im unsure of anyone who would throw it out mid block string except me, to bait out mashers. or do it vs that faggots j2C. There was an almost bulletproof way for Tager to deal with Hotaru after blocking it that I found out playing with my brother, but it's been so long that I can't remember anymore. Argh. Something about... 2C... or AC...
psycofang2 Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 *Looks at CT replays and a part of me dies* Thanks, that means a lot of since you've basically seen my overall progression from those dark, uber-scrubby days. ive been watching you for a long time dude. keep growing. There was an almost bulletproof way for Tager to deal with Hotaru after blocking it that I found out playing with my brother, but it's been so long that I can't remember anymore. Argh. Something about... 2C... or AC... Ac can beat it clean if done as hotaru comes out, 2C beats it if it comes out too early. i think 2C has late invincibilty.
mAc Chaos Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 Nah, I don't mean beating it during the move. I mean, you do Hotaru, they block it, and they can basically punish it which normally doesn't happen. But we found a way with Tager. It was funny since nobody ever got that far into what kind of things can happen afterwards so all Hakus and Tagers just treat it as perfectly safe even though he could basically punish it like Inferno Divider. I watched Alzarath playing with his Haku at a major against my brother and getting blown up after getting his Hotaru blocked too since he didn't know the Hotaru punish was coming. Can't remember anymore though... I can't believe I'm forgetting. But basically, if you did Hotaru, you had to gamble that you were gonna catch some mashing or button pressing, and not having it blocked. I think it was something simple, like, you block Hotaru, and then wait to see if Haku jump cancels. If he jump cancels, AC will beat every single thing he can do. If he doesn't jump cancel, he falls into a 360 or 720 and can't do anything about it either.
psycofang2 Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 what about late jump cancels couldnt you just jump cancel hotaru again?
mAc Chaos Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 (edited) Nah, you can't do two of the same special move twice in a row. It's not like you can do Renka > Renka. Well, maybe you can if you wait long enough, but not after the jump cancel. Late jump cancel isn't that big a deal since it just gives Tager more time to confirm you're not falling. Yeah, just tested it. You can't even do another Hotaru with another move in between. Hotaru > j.B > can't do another Hotaru even though normally j.B can go into it. Doing 2C instead works fine too, but it can get j.D'd. But they would have to basically plan on it for that to happen. If they barrier block your 2C, the 2C pins them into place in the air and you can cancel the 2C into AC and grab them anyway. Edited December 13, 2012 by mAc Chaos
psycofang2 Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 never knew that im just theorizing right now. i always knew vs tager hotaru a hit or miss and regret it type situation but i never really on other possible outcomes
mAc Chaos Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 Yeah me too. I feel like I'm scavenging in the dark to find something I know is supposed to be there. Anyway, I should sleep.
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