Errol Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 5 seconds on the clock, I had the health lead and my trusty Lion smasher then bam, Shield Charge D + that full-body invul thingy and I DAI'd. I died too, laughing Hey, you went 4:1, that's not bad. GGs.
Errol Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 I need more data on Tsubaki since she's supposed to be scary next game lol. yeah well she's going to be normal tier instead of ass tier. (I haven't seen anyone say she's upper, i.e. hazama jin taokaka valk litchi and prob some others, but she's good.) But that said I think things are going to be pretty different playing as her and against her. The burst and guard primer changes are nice because they remove system mechanics that hurt her and are replaced with good stuff for her. I'll miss my 22D unblockable. She gets a good amount more damage in general in CP, and air enders don't leave you at a disadvantage like in CSEX (this could be the biggest thing I'm looking forward to). But command throw will probably also really change how I go about my pressure. I kept forgetting Tsubaki has a DP. Tsubaki doesn't have a DP. She has a move that lets people air throw her.
toanenadiz Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 How does her 'DP' work? I remember one time I ran up after I knocked you down, pressed 5A and it beat your DP.
Starlight777 Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 Despite tiers being irrelevant at this point, CP Tsubaki still looks really good to be considered mid tier.
psycofang2 Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 tsubaki and litchi are my worst matchups. Azreal save meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ggs to nineball, moy, swagna5b, star, vixination, somerandomguy and someother people i may have forgotten.
mAc Chaos Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 I used to be so careful about baiting DPs. Now I just fly into them until I finally land a hit.
Zeron_X25 Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 Well, tonight started with a someone telling me I got a lot better and the rest of it was spent looking like I haven't improved in the slightest and being a worse litchi than someone who's been playing two weeks. It's like I don't even know how to play this game. I don't understand it. I don't. God dammit. Why does my mental state go to shit so quickly in this game? It's like every time I get hit it's because I'm a fucking retard and it just doesn't happen to anyone else - ONLY I GET HIT BY THIS DUMB SHIT. Star I wanna give you an honest advice that you're probably not gonna get anytime soon by anyone else here. You are shit at this game and no matter how hard you try, you will never be good. No matter how hard you try, you're not going to get any better and you've been seeing this all the time. Just drop this game and play a game where you have no bad reputation in and don't expect to be terrible at either. This is the best mindset to have and it only comes from playing a new and different game which means drop BB and step your GG game up. If you do, there is a high chance that you will naturally get good at BB. If not, this is not the game for you.
Errol Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 How does her 'DP' work? I remember one time I ran up after I knocked you down, pressed 5A and it beat your DP. It is a projectile, and it has a deadzone in front of her. If you run at her, sometimes you'll be able to do that because of pushing her and running into the deadzone. Despite tiers being irrelevant at this point, CP Tsubaki still looks really good to be considered mid tier. We'll see, I just know that none of the people on jbbs ever mention her for being top tier. Looking at videos, that's how I feel too. Even if kuresu does well in casuals, he's the #1 Tsubaki. etc etc.
Moy_X7 Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 I'll miss my 22D unblockable. Hey, you'll get your command throw to make up for that. Her command throw is going to be a really powerful tool considering her currently awesome jab pressure. People will wanna hold back+up to avoid the command throw but 5A/2A x N is an automatic frame trap/jump trap. If only Plat had an actual command throw and not that horrible 24+ start-up + whatever amount of time it takes her to reach her opponent with it. Oh well, at least she has her damage and instant OHs lol. GGs to everyone I played today, too lazy to name you individually. lulzy games to ExcelBlitzBlue with that obvious lag switching. Not even lag will allow you to take games from me, buddy
psycofang2 Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 I used to be so careful about baiting DPs. Now I just fly into them until I finally land a hit. i pressur ethem so they cant and when i see it coming i either get hit or block and 5C their nuts off. hakus DP still da bess, aint no body gettin on that level...not even you ragna.
mAc Chaos Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 I just love doing it for throw mixup. I love it so much.
psycofang2 Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 i love if for all these reasons, it unpunishable as fuck. whiff hotaru leads to JD, tsubaki, 6B, 3C renka, zantetsu, throw, jumping defensive mixups to fuck the ppls AAs. the list goes ooooonnnnn~
psycofang2 Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 close enough to getting away with shit. unless IBed, or Aotmic collidered, or backdashed. i rarely see the latter 2 if ever, the 1st happened happened because i ibed hotaru and 5Ad that shit. your are a faggot if you use it against me, im god if i use it on you/ my logic.
mAc Chaos Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 I just think, "Damn, I should've thought of that" and turn it on them. Gonna be whiffing a lot more though once CP comes around and it gets the height of it raised.
psycofang2 Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 seriously im watching this right now, haku for god teir. wait hotaru has a launcher increase? or the hitbox?
mAc Chaos Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 No, when you do Hotaru it raises Hakumen higher into the air. So it will probably whiff on crouching characters with smaller hit boxes and be more punishable unless they shove themselves into it.
psycofang2 Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 thats some kinda gay, but less to complain about. shouldnt he still be able to whiff cancel into tsubaki?
mAc Chaos Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 (edited) You could never cancel on whiff. If you whiff it you're fucked. Unless I didn't know all this time. But I've had my Hotaru backdash 720'd by my brother too many times for that to be true. You just fall helplessly into Tager's arms. If you mean on block, then yeah you should, as long as you manage to land it on them. If it completely misses though you can't do anything but fall. It should still be good to catch mashing though since the character will be extending their hitbox into it. It's only more likely to whiff if you have a small character like Noel and she does nothing but crouch block. Edited December 13, 2012 by mAc Chaos
Zeron_X25 Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 You could never cancel on whiff. If you whiff it you're fucked. Unless I didn't know all this time. But I've had my Hotaru backdash 720'd by my brother too many times for that to be true. You just fall helplessly into Tager's arms. If you mean on block, then yeah you should, as long as you manage to land it on them. If it completely misses though you can't do anything but fall. It should still be good to catch mashing though since the character will be extending their hitbox into it. It's only more likely to whiff if you have a small character like Noel and she does nothing but crouch block. Hotaru is a scrubby ass no-skill, no-risk, 2 star move that I'm glad got the whiff nerf that it deserved.
psycofang2 Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 no i mean on whiff, if your are high enough you can throw out tsubaki if hotaru misses, im thinking if CP hotaru throws you high enough you may be able to tsubaki anyway. not hop hotaru unless you hop jmp cancel hotaru tsubaki but thats tight through and through.
mAc Chaos Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 Hotaru is a scrubby ass no-skill, no-risk, 2 star move that I'm glad got the whiff nerf that it deserved. lol, it got stronger if anything with OD. Stay mad.
psycofang2 Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 Hotaru is a scrubby ass no-skill, no-risk, 2 star move that I'm glad got the whiff nerf that it deserved. sorry to break it to you son, it wasnt nerfed the way you think it was. you still gonna get hotarued and its still going to hurt badly. actaully i think alot worse in cp because lol overdrive. dat ass ragnarok
Zeron_X25 Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 lol, it got stronger if anything with OD. Stay mad. He's a shittier character. lol stay mad. .... he wasn't nerfed? fuck
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