Litherain-XIII Posted March 12, 2013 Posted March 12, 2013 tbh i hate how reliant they made her on her drives. hope CP shifts it a bit somewhat more to her normals... too much 2D and 4D going on. kinda glad 2D was taken out as a reversal option now its alot easier to see whos legit and who just simply mashing out.
Starlight777 Posted March 12, 2013 Posted March 12, 2013 If it's a legit tactic that constantly works, feel free to abuse it till you become bored of it.
Ctrlaltwtf Posted March 12, 2013 Posted March 12, 2013 (edited) If it's a legit tactic that constantly works, feel free to abuse it till you become bored of it. I'd like to think of it as: "If it's a legit tactic that constantly works, feel free to abuse it till you get blown up and are required to figure out something new." I honestly don't think Noel's drives are all that amazing. Practically everyone in the game can just meaty 2B Noel's wakeup safely. Worst that can happen is you'll be forced to block 2D. Just do meaty 2B > 4B/C for option select (for characters that can revolver action that, obviously). Edited March 12, 2013 by Ctrlaltwtf
Starlight777 Posted March 12, 2013 Posted March 12, 2013 (edited) I'd like to think of it as: "If it's a legit tactic that constantly works, feel free to abuse it till you get blown up and are required to figure out something new." Yeah your version is better. There was a time where I walked right into Noel's 2D on wakeup every time someone did it. Eventually I just learned to back up, let them whiff it and murder them for it. I don't even hate Noel anymore lol. Edited March 12, 2013 by Starlight777
bakahyl Posted March 12, 2013 Posted March 12, 2013 GG to Doodels1337, because he did caught me off guard the first round by only using air throws while in the air. Eventhough i did catch that the next 10 matches
susano Posted March 12, 2013 Posted March 12, 2013 GGs to DontExplain, Zaldus, and Vice Taicho. Still very free in Litchi matchups, it seems. I just find her staff really annoying to deal with. But at least I have an idea on what I should be doing. Does anyone have a problem with the DS3 shoulder pads? Every time I'm just trying to hold R2 to barrier, it doesn't come out sometimes. Can I map it so it doesn't screw me over 24/7?
Wild Candy Posted March 12, 2013 Posted March 12, 2013 GG's to TD and various others! I had a lot of fun and learned a lot! I'm going to be sure to perfect a few of Noel's Combos!
Daedron Posted March 12, 2013 Posted March 12, 2013 GG's to Yosuke91, Kaliel00, NothingCells, Kid, Hondo and others I fought today. One day I will learn to beat Ragna! Think I'm just too scared of his tools and should be more aggressive so I'll give that a shot. Also shoutouts to having my room filled up with only Americans. You guys love the 1 bar connection :D
psycofang2 Posted March 12, 2013 Posted March 12, 2013 If it's a legit tactic that constantly works, feel free to abuse it till you become bored of it. its legit until it fails, then you are a fraud, therefore any and all forms of play are equally a tool and being a fraud. Yeah your version is better. There was a time where I walked right into Noel's 2D on wakeup every time someone did it. Eventually I just learned to back up, let them whiff it and murder them for it. I don't even hate Noel anymore lol. still hate the bitch even when i can beat a good number of the ones i run into. i just hate her. hope she dies in bbcp. tbh i hate how reliant they made her on her drives. hope CP shifts it a bit somewhat more to her normals... too much 2D and 4D going on. kinda glad 2D was taken out as a reversal option now its alot easier to see whos legit and who just simply mashing out. they will still mash that shit. just more 4D.
bakahyl Posted March 12, 2013 Posted March 12, 2013 GG's to daedron, katsuke_x and Tos-X7 edit: i am quite sad that i only astralled people only a few times today
Wild Candy Posted March 12, 2013 Posted March 12, 2013 its legit until it fails, then you are a fraud, therefore any and all forms of play are equally a tool and being a fraud. still hate the bitch even when i can beat a good number of the ones i run into. i just hate her. hope she dies in bbcp. they will still mash that shit. just more 4D. 1. Noel, while annoying in gameplay, is the game's heroine, and still has a large fan-base, so their not going to kill her off anytime soon. 2. Noel may be mashed a lot, be she's not the worst kinda fraud to deal with. If you ask me, I would point my finger to Arakune Fraud. (People play keep away until you're cursed then mash the insects and 6C until your dead without using any combos.) It's very hard to deal with, and is actually much more dangerous then Chain Revolver Abuse! 3. Noel's Drive is super risky. She can't block while using it, whifed moves have a lot of recovery, most of them have projectile properties (Characters like Tager eat these up), without Bloom Trigger, Spring Raid, and Assault Through, she's very vulnerable to attack while reloading, and there's so much more. 4. A lot of Noel's specials are situational, and some of her pokes are lack luster when compared to characters like Haku-Men, Ragna, and Makoto 5. Even with very careful use of Chain Revolver, you won't win with that alone. (I know this from experience!) IN OTHER WORDS Noel isn't overpowered, and she's still a great character story-wise. I personally think she doesn't deserve all this hate!
toanenadiz Posted March 12, 2013 Posted March 12, 2013 I wouldn't expect a Noel main to understand the hate towards her. And I don't think anyone is saying Noel is overpowered, just annoying to play against.
MashThat5A Posted March 12, 2013 Posted March 12, 2013 I'm happy what started off as a troll ended up as this. :mrbiscuits:
toanenadiz Posted March 12, 2013 Posted March 12, 2013 Woah. I can't believe you declared yourself to be a Tao god. I should show you your place in Tao mirrors. And stuff like this happens all of the time in the netplay thread.
Wild Candy Posted March 12, 2013 Posted March 12, 2013 I wouldn't expect a Noel main to understand the hate towards her. And I don't think anyone is saying Noel is overpowered, just annoying to play against. I understand a little hate, but I just don't like it when people go to far. (Like wishing that she'll die in the next game... Just a little harsh...) Besides, only proficient Noel Players are the annoying ones. People who mash Chain Revolver should get punished. (They give other Noel Players a bad reputation...) Anyway, my Rant is over. I'll probably be back online for some practice in a half hour if anyone's interested.
psycofang2 Posted March 12, 2013 Posted March 12, 2013 wall of shit ey you there. guy thats getting all serious. quit it. no ones serious here. i main hakumen do you even fathom the amount of hate i get? jokes. so chills. rapin this enter key.
toanenadiz Posted March 12, 2013 Posted March 12, 2013 (Like wishing that she'll die in the next game... Just a little harsh...) My main has died in 2 straight games. It isn't that bad.
bakahyl Posted March 12, 2013 Posted March 12, 2013 1. Noel, while annoying in gameplay, is the game's heroine, and still has a large fan-base, so their not going to kill her off anytime soon. 2. Noel may be mashed a lot, be she's not the worst kinda fraud to deal with. If you ask me, I would point my finger to Arakune Fraud. (People play keep away until you're cursed then mash the insects and 6C until your dead without using any combos.) It's very hard to deal with, and is actually much more dangerous then Chain Revolver Abuse! 3. Noel's Drive is super risky. She can't block while using it, whifed moves have a lot of recovery, most of them have projectile properties (Characters like Tager eat these up), without Bloom Trigger, Spring Raid, and Assault Through, she's very vulnerable to attack while reloading, and there's so much more. 4. A lot of Noel's specials are situational, and some of her pokes are lack luster when compared to characters like Haku-Men, Ragna, and Makoto 5. Even with very careful use of Chain Revolver, you won't win with that alone. (I know this from experience!) IN OTHER WORDS Noel isn't overpowered, and she's still a great character story-wise. I personally think she doesn't deserve all this hate! The problem with noel it's always a guessing game when you try to rush her down. With some character's (characters without reverals)you don't want to get rushed down by her because of her frametraps when close
Errol Posted March 12, 2013 Posted March 12, 2013 4. A lot of Noel's specials are situational, and some of her pokes are lack luster when compared to characters like Makoto i lol'd
psycofang2 Posted March 12, 2013 Posted March 12, 2013 My main has died in 2 straight games. It isn't that bad. my main died, then they stuck him in a badass suit of armor and dubbed thee god. -oh wait...i cant die. bahahahaha. also why are we discussing this? noel as a character in incredibly annoying, my opinion end of story. dont get butthurt and try to defend your character, no one really cares. no even me. change her voice and give her a suit, make her less whiney. i might not have to smite her-
Wild Candy Posted March 12, 2013 Posted March 12, 2013 ey you there. guy thats getting all serious. quit it. no ones serious here. i main hakumen do you even fathom the amount of hate i get? jokes. so chills. rapin this enter key. There's a fine line between joking and TROLLING! And did you have to quote my post as "Wall of Shit!" Its just rude!
Daedron Posted March 12, 2013 Posted March 12, 2013 She's just annoying to fight against...it's like fighting a mini-tager.
toanenadiz Posted March 12, 2013 Posted March 12, 2013 She's just annoying to fight against...it's like fighting a mini-tager. That's the key to success against her. Treat her like a mini-Tager and you will beat her a lot more.
psycofang2 Posted March 12, 2013 Posted March 12, 2013 There's a fine line between joking and TROLLING! And did you have to quote my post as "Wall of Shit!" Its just rude! shit=/= irrelevance. you are taking things too personally. lets end this conversation right here please. That's the key to success against her. Treat her like a mini-Tager and you will beat her a lot more. TOAN I HOPE YOUR CHARACTER DIES (again) and if noel is mini tager then what does that make your lambda?
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