[CSE] PSN Match Finder/GG Thread

[TD]

on a basic sense yes. what l mean is that they are momentum based. once they start blocking their setups are ruined. pumpkin disappears, steins stop firing, etc. they have poor , situational defense in these situations. even mu with her dp has a hard time on defense because of it's range, and the risk/reward. corner a rachel and it may as well be ggs for her without a frog out which is unlikely.

not only that but even if these two escape they need time and space to setup, so even after dodging a bullet they are still likely in an unfavourable position.

most other characters have something on defense that is stronger than these two, unless they are also zoners; or, they have something in the neutral that can potentially take back momentum quickly.

[Errol]

really? I would say that Mu has some of the best defense. top class back dash, iad back, dp, pokes, antiairs. who really has better defense than that and why.

[TD]

this is not to say mu is bad, definitely not, but it is possible to keep the pressure on her, like it is possible vs every other character in the game.

except hakumen.

mu has a pretty decent time on her defense. she can escape on a consistant basis. however it's what she decides to do after avoiding and attack that counts. backdash/iabd leads into a place where mu cannot do much against long range attacks. 6a and 2c requires a good read and a poorly timed blockstring. her pokes can be too slow at points and most of them attack horizontally. her 5a and 2a are decent.

she also has a significantly harder time in tighter blockstrings.

[TD]

as for who has a better defense, l think that would be pretty easy to see who can break out of pressure better. hakumen for sure. anyone with a good dp, a good 5a/2a, a way to gain momentum), and/or strong pokes has a decent or better time on defense. to me, that is all of the high/top tiers, and most of the lower tier.

[Nemesis]

TD - your lack of mindless hate for Mu and your informed responses - and absence of "she's a dumb op char" just continue to build my respect for you

I think I learned a few things from the above statements

[kodimt]

You can still hate Mu, and understand she's dumb but not holy fuck she's unbeatable delete pls

Every character has a flaw, except maybe Taokaka :3, but Litchi won Arc Revo

CP gud

[Nemesis]

The two rarely go hand in hand - it's refreshing to see the opposite... Your point is really unnecessary, but thanks for pointing out "You can still hate Mu"

[someonewhodied]

Still trying to get enough money to get a cronus device so I can finally go on PSN.

Can't play for shit on stick or PS3 Pad

[Nemesis]

Link aforementioned Cronus device ?

[Martian Buddy]

http://www.cronusdevice.com/

From what I understand it's not too bad.

[Ctrlaltwtf]

Still trying to get enough money to get a cronus device so I can finally go on PSN.

Can't play for shit on stick or PS3 Pad

Gotta warn you dude, I've tried several adapters like that and they all ended up being inadequate. They'd be fine for anything besides fighting games.

[Bibiquadium]

Not sure about this one, but some adapters are banned from tournament play due to their ability to modify inputs and such.

[Sadeyo]

GGs to Sedoxin, still fun to find a few random good players.

Don't expect to see lambda online as often, she's going through a tense training session instead of playing off of instincts. Expect better results the next time you guys encounter her.

[BlackYakuzu94]

Got one hour before I head off to sleep, opening four person room, who wants in.

[Dawn of Musou]

I would have but I was in my own room. GGs LOVELESS_FF7 and rampage_chuck_1.

[Errol]

as for who has a better defense, l think that would be pretty easy to see who can break out of pressure better. hakumen for sure. anyone with a good dp, a good 5a/2a, a way to gain momentum), and/or strong pokes has a decent or better time on defense. to me, that is all of the high/top tiers, and most of the lower tier.

the only thing I don't get here is that Mu doesn't have a good DP.

[Lich]

It's still a dp on a character who controls a lot of space that makes it very difficult to start an offense against.

[Errol]

I'm kinda saying that at least in EX, I don't know what character has an arguably better DP except Ragna. Jin's D Dp might be better except for costing 25 heat. has additional plus of being the only DP you can't safe jump.

[excelence]

Do low profile against Jin DP

[Errol]

Do low profile against Jin DP

yeah, I guess that is a pretty significant weakness. I don't play one of those characters unfortunately.

[Bibiquadium]

Just 214A~D if a Jin is too DP Happy. Yes it bodies D DP for free and his Yukikaze if you hold it. It also beats ID if you hold it which can link in Stargazer from anywhere in the screen.

[excelence]

Isn't 3c Destroy Jin DP?

[Bibiquadium]

3C destroys his D DP, 214A~D destroys his A B C D DP and Yukikaze.

[Errol]

the problem with 3c is that it has 37 frame startup. if jin mashes DP, you can use it, if you mash 3c, he can do whatever he wants to you.

[excelence]

Probably need to remove discussion to Makoto Forum, i'm quite certain 3c can destroy all of Jin Dp's and start up isn't an issue here since what u want from 3c is Low profile attribute against Jin Reversal Dp's that come close to the time when u pressing 3c(maybe f5~8 wiki didn't have accurate data of it)?... and mashing 3c? wtf... are u handing your ass on silver platter?