[Accent Core] Sol Badguy General Discussion

[CJay]

Anyone think that Bandit Bringer loop done on Potemkin in the Shin DI demo vid is Pot only? I wouldn't be surprised but it would be interesting to see how it plays out versus the rest of the cast.

[Sòlrök]

Anyone think that Bandit Bringer loop done on Potemkin in the Shin DI demo vid is Pot only? I wouldn't be surprised but it would be interesting to see how it plays out versus the rest of the cast.

It's possible Potemkin just didn't tech? I doubt GG would let such a damaging combo exist by spamming the same move. I'd say that's almost as bad as Dust loop. Its only saving grace, should it exist, is only Potemkin can be nailed by it.

[CJay]

Guess you haven't seen AC Testy in action. Anywho, no the beat counter didn't darken it was indeed a valid combo. Also the tenson gain after the FRC penalty faded was really nice .

[Sòlrök]

Guess you haven't seen AC Testy in action.

Anywho, no the beat counter didn't darken it was indeed a valid combo. Also the tenson gain after the FRC penalty faded was really nice .

I have but the difference is the damage mitigation. Eventually Testament just starts dealing mediocre amounts, not even worth continuing. Doesn't it scale down to 1 damage at some point?

[TITANIUM BEAST!!!]

Yeah but you've done about 50% damage by then and you build an insane amount of Tension doing it. The BB loop on Potemkin can't be teched because BB always causes a slide down. Even if the next BB in the loop whiffed, the character is still knocked down. You cannot tech from a slide down. And frankly, the fact that you can dizzy him with that loop makes it really fucking stupid because you can just start a new combo and reset damage. Considering the insane amount of damage Sidewinder loops do in AC, that makes Sol/Potemkin essentially a free win for Sol if he gets the right hit in.

[低姿勢]

ahh didhnt i post about power dunk loop right whewn the game came out? also i not think hsave to worry 2 much of the dizzy necasarly Bcuz it hasnt dizzyed in the other videos ive seen it in. so maybe just dizzy because already being hit earlier.

[Hatred Edge]

Quick question: Is it a good idea to do Grand Viper after landing BB(non CH)? I just been to the /\Core main site and saw the trailers. In which Sol did GF FRC BB Grand Viper>Combo. Check It. Its in the gg room if you missed it...

[Unimportant Guy]

It's a valid combo to do, but probably not best if the opponent has a burst available to retaliate with.

[Hatred Edge]

Noted I was on youtube watching Sol's new 100% tension DI..... What a complete waste of shit that move is. It is 100% useless. So now Ky, Johnny, Venom, Axl can beat the crap out of Sol while his life goes down, so he dies even faster. Thanks Arc. Couldn't come up with something USEFUL now could ya?Maybe an air Wild Throw or being able turn off DI manually and DI slowly draining tension while regenerating Sol's life or Sol ACing DI moves for extra seconds added to DI or giving the flames a hit box...god DI just becomes more and more useless with every passing game. First dmg reduced, timer decrease, now a DI that drains life. How the hell does this new DI help Sol at all? Or an untechable Tyrant Rave? MORE IMPORTANTLY: I saw Sol do 6P on Ky they froze then Sol did Naplam Death on Ky. This is what people were talking about with being able to "combo" into IKs before /\Core came out? Looks interesting... I'm all for the BB loop on Potemkin. Pot is one of my worst matchups. I hate fighting Pot with Sol with all the damn invincibility Pot has and an air Potemkin Buster too, bout time Pot had something to fear form Sol

[Unimportant Guy]

I agree with TB that Sol's 100% DI is for flash factor more than anything else. Don't blame Arc too much though. Sol is still looking pretty good in AC regardless, in my opinion.

[Darkhonor90]

Noted

I was on youtube watching Sol's new 100% tension DI.....

What a complete waste of shit that move is. It is 100% useless. So now Ky, Johnny, Venom, Axl can beat the crap out of Sol while his life goes down, so he dies even faster. Thanks Arc. Couldn't come up with something USEFUL now could ya?Maybe an air Wild Throw or being able turn off DI manually and DI slowly draining tension while regenerating Sol's life or Sol ACing DI moves for extra seconds added to DI or giving the flames a hit box...god DI just becomes more and more useless with every passing game. First dmg reduced, timer decrease, now a DI that drains life. How the hell does this new DI help Sol at all? Or an untechable Tyrant Rave?

MORE IMPORTANTLY:

I saw Sol do 6P on Ky they froze then Sol did Naplam Death on Ky. This is what people were talking about with being able to "combo" into IKs before /\Core came out? Looks interesting...

I'm all for the BB loop on Potemkin. Pot is one of my worst matchups. I hate fighting Pot with Sol with all the damn invincibility Pot has and an air Potemkin Buster too, bout time Pot had something to fear form Sol

It's not supposed to help sol out the new DI that is. It's just for flash and something funny. it's the same thing with the Jam overdrive and all.

Calm the hell down lol

[r0b0t]

I agree with TB that Sol's 100% DI is for flash factor more than anything else. Don't blame Arc too much though. Sol is still looking pretty good in AC regardless, in my opinion.

does anyone know how to do the new DI i cannot figure it out. from the vids looks like down is imput twice so i tried double fireballs in both directions with like every button but didnt work, did i miss something did someone say how to?

also if the BB loop is infinte on pot i see it as being viable for a dizzy cause it will eventually happen. ive been trying it though, and its kind of hard i got 4 reps then lost my rythm you have to leave the ground as soon as you hit the ground.

EDIT:Nm about the di thing i saw the thread that tells you how something like 214214214214P+HS mike z confirmed it.

[Hatred Edge]

Asked in the combo thread but no one answered it...so I'll ask here: How do you delay 6P? Can it be delayed in /\Core? Does anyone have any info on how Sol can "combo" into Napalm Death? can you buffer FB fafnir?

[CJay]

The comboing into Napalm Death is GG mode stuff. The mechanics are changed and everyone can combo into their IKs and stuff like it was in GG. You can't combo into Fafnir so buffering is a no go really afaik. Don't know what you speak with 6P though.

[CrimsonDisaster]

Random thing to note but you can still burst and whiff through GV, no free IKs like back in the day though. Well, unless you were like, in IK mode and half a screen to the corner or something stupid like that. That said, some characters would have a hard time really punishing Sol after doing that, and the loss of your entire burst bar for like a CH sweep from halfscreen doesn't strike me as worth it for most characters. Some characters might get some absurdly big combo though, I haven't messed with it and I certainly haven't had anybody punish me big on the off chance that they've bursted through a GV while I was testing stuff out.

[Bloodcrave]

AC finally arrived here... any1 knows what's the button for the white-haired sol? >_< if someone can show me all sol's colors in AC that will be even more awesome XD edit: nvm i found the link :X

[Hatred Edge]

Speaking of which where is the color report for Sol? All I've seen is Granpa Sol(white hair), Sol Blackguy,Sol with K colors from X2, and Army Sol... And I've never seen his other colors either! BTW who uses Army Sol, not one of his best colors imo... Bloodcrave, your cool. Sol with white hair is one of my favorite colors of Badguy.Straight from GGX baby! Umm...where's the link??????

[Bloodcrave]

http://www10.plala.or.jp/toubedon/roketesol.html

[Hatred Edge]

http://www10.plala.or.jp/toubedon/roketesol.html

It's not working. All I get is "not found"

[Bloodcrave]

lol seems that the site just shifted

http://www.rakunin.com/roketesol.html

should work now

edit: hmmm the link to the pictures is not up yet though, u might wanna wait till it's settled down

[Hatred Edge]

So Sidewinder on CH is a clean hit.... SSSOOOOOOOO....if Fafnir lands a CH will it gained the properties of a clean hit like Sidewinder???? And....if Fafnir lands a regular hit does it still have its wallbounce properties like /fafnir?? And what if Sol lands Grand Viper CH, like I-no does HCL in the air and Sol Grand Vipahs and lands a CH but because I-no's in the air Sol can't mash Grand Viper will he get a Clean Hit on CH with GV???

[Unimportant Guy]

Fafnir will still wall bounce on normal hit, but untech time is a lot less compared to Clean Hit, so your chances to combo depend on being closer to the wall. The counter hit=clean hit seem to work with fafnir and grand viper too, from what I've seen in some matches.

[Bloodcrave]

http://wiki.livedoor.jp/ggxx_matome/d/%a5%a2%a5%af%a5%bb%a5%f3%a5%c8%a5%b3%a5%a2%a1%a1%a5%bd%a5%eb%a1%a1%b4%f0%cb%dc%a5%c7%a1%bc%a5%bf

scroll all the way down for sol's color chart, the pics are kinda small though :X

[Halfro]

Did they change the untechable time on the WT?? cuz i was messing around in training and was doing: WT, Fafnir (CL), dash in, s.S, c.HS.....ect......... Im sure i had on the tech option (toward).....just wondering if i was goin crazy or not lol

[Spirit Juice]

Um... Wild Throw is still untechable. o_0