Hecatom Posted November 15, 2012 Posted November 15, 2012 Nu was unbalanced not only because her move set, but because she along with Rachel and Arakune where the ones who could abuse more the guard libra. If it wasn't because that single mechanic i think that at least 2 of those 3 characters wouldn't have been so dominant as they were. On BBCP unless they give them real nasty propierties on their moves, i thin that the chances of them being broken are slim, after all, outside Izayoi, those characters have been around for a time, so they at lest should have an idea on how to work with them. Another thing, remember Hakumen, there is always the chance that they end being underpowered compared to the rest of the cast.
Devdan Posted November 15, 2012 Posted November 15, 2012 What's a "special single player mode," game already had Score Attack to make solo more "exciting." I dunno, something like Conquest from SCII? I'm not a game designer, but there's gotta be something fresh they can do. Fresher than fight 9 guys + a boss.
.:TM:. Posted November 15, 2012 Posted November 15, 2012 This is currently my greatest fear. Game comes out, 2 weeks of nothing but super loud announcers repeating random crud and ruining the music for me =,= I'm hoping for some quick vids of just the music with no sound effects or anything As for why leave characters to be released later, there might be several reasons, we can't really say for sure unless ASW confirms anything, which to be honest they have no reason to do. Maybe the changes to Mu and Nu took longer to implement than they thought, and maybe Izayoi was not ready on time. If they did, they can't really just go "oh shit, better delay", sometimes there's a hard deadline that must be met. At least look at the bright side, the characters will get added. Some games end up not having a lot of features that were thought for it because there was no time to implement them Another bright side, release date for those three makes for a perfect excuse to throw a patch if some crazy game breaking thing pops up, like Carl's bloody clap loop in CT. If you have headphones videos with commentary are sometimes done so you can only hear it in one ear and the other ear is nice, undisturbed gameplay. Just a general note for anyone that didn't know.
Skye Posted November 15, 2012 Posted November 15, 2012 I swear if Izayoi has any zoning capabilities whatsoever....
Starlight777 Posted November 15, 2012 Posted November 15, 2012 I swear if Izayoi has any zoning capabilities whatsoever.... She will. Her normal mode is supposed to focus on zoning.
Kyosuke Kagami Posted November 15, 2012 Posted November 15, 2012 She will. Her normal mode is supposed to focus on zoning. I hope it's passive zoning. Nu already covers the aggressive zoner department.
YukiBlue Posted November 15, 2012 Posted November 15, 2012 We already have Rachel, Mu and maybe even Hazama covering that passive zoning. Id hope she is a Neo-Rushdown with "Assists" to aid her in this. Thnk playing Magneto then calling in Drones haha
Kyosuke Kagami Posted November 15, 2012 Posted November 15, 2012 I thought Mu was more like a set up and situational character, not a zoner per se.
YukiBlue Posted November 15, 2012 Posted November 15, 2012 She could keep you where she wanted to keep you. Her normals command respect and her steins are intimidating as hell in neutral. Incredibly effective zoning. Just behind Nu and Rachel imo. Anyway. Lets no dee the rails.
Mightfo Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 i hope arakune mains get really salty at izayoi's zoning
WolfCrimson Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 Fuck (BBCSEX) 'Kune. But CP kune looks interesting, and doesn't seem to be a win-robber, so no offense to new Kune. So BB's confirmed roster is currently at 23 characters in BBCP (including Izayoi). That's like 2 characters less than GG's roster. This franchise has come a long way. (P.S. It's rumored that Mikado will be story mode's boss, and she might be a playable character. But rumors don't count.)
Star-Demon Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 Mori told Saya to say no about her being playable - Mori is also a liar.
GEKKA Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 Mori is a troll, god damn... That sentence alone still makes me think and wonder if it's really a lie or if it's the truth. He couldn't have put it in a more annoying way. Only a few more days though, hopefully lots of good footage will roll in to keep us all busy.
WillWork4Instal Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 I wonder if they'll ever make a Zappa-playstyle character (that isn't Platinum). I hope Saya, Koko, and Jubei stay unplayable, we don't need to ruin the aura that those characters have by making them playable. By the way, do we know how story mode is going to work? Is it that three person per story section? Or is it individual? And if Izayoi will be arcade boss, wouldn't that make her arcade exclusive or DLC? (basing that Saya is console boss)
Kyosuke Kagami Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 Izayoi being arcade only would be a horrible idea and I don't think ASW would be so stupid to do that.
GEKKA Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 Izayoi being arcade only would be a horrible idea and I don't think ASW would be so stupid to do that. This. I'm pretty sure they learned their lesson with making boss only characters. Which I am grateful for.
Hecatom Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 This. I'm pretty sure they learned their lesson with making boss only characters. Which I am grateful for. What are you talking about? All of their games with an arcade release have the boss character (or a weaker form of him/her) on the playable roster GGX (Dizzy/Testament) to GGXXAC (I-no) HNK (Raoh) SBX (All the characters are boss characters for other) BF (Deathbringer) BBCT (Nu) to BBCS (Hazama/Mu) P4A (Shadow Labrys/Elizabeth) The only Boss that was a non playable character is Leopaldon, and no one cares about that (or Isuka )
GEKKA Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 I was referring to Justice and Kliff from GG(blah blah rest of acronym) in the sense that they were not balanced for competitive play.
SolxBaiken Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 Mori told Saya to say no about her being playable - Mori is also a liar. Ever heard of NDA!? The only Boss that was a non playable character is Leopaldon, and no one cares about that (or Isuka ) He was playable on PS2, which we all know is where the real action's at! All Leos/Zakos money matches! (I actually really like Isuka, 4-player was a fun mode for when I used to have alot of friends over and we just wanted to have fun, and 1v1 was made more interesting and intense thanks to the turn button) I was referring to Justice and Kliff from GG(blah blah rest of acronym) in the sense that they were not balanced for competitive play. Balance aside, Kliff & Justice weren't allowed in tournaments SIMPLY due to the fact they weren't in any arcade release, and that's what Japan primarily plays on, and America went "me too!" and had them banned as well. And they're pretty much unbalanced because they're left pretty much untouched
WillWork4Instal Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 What are you talking about? All of their games with an arcade release have the boss character (or a weaker form of him/her) on the playable roster More or less, I was not talking about the "arcade mode", rather, the arcade system. Izayoi being the arcade exclusive playable, while Mikado being the console exclusive. Each being their respective's final boss.
Hecatom Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 (edited) I was referring to Justice and Kliff from GG(blah blah rest of acronym) in the sense that they were not balanced for competitive play. Justice and Kliff don't count because they never were part of the cast on any arcade game until AC+R, plus they aren't bosses characters on the console games neither, they are just unlockable bonus characters that where never intended for competitive play for the reasons that soba explained already, so they never tried to balance them until now that they are part of the arcade cast, so my point still stands, outside Leopaldon, they have never had a non playable boss character. He was playable on PS2 I am talking about arcade releases, they never have unplayable bosses besides him which we all know is where the real action's at! All Leos/Zakos money matches! (I actually really like Isuka, 4-player was a fun mode for when I used to have alot of friends over and we just wanted to have fun, and 1v1 was made more interesting and intense thanks to the turn button) Playing free for all or 2 vs 2 was really fun Edit A free for all of 4 Leopaldons was the sex, lol Edited November 16, 2012 by Hecatom
Mumm-Ra Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 How come people always forget Phantom when they mention the characters they want playable? She's the most op shit in the story so far.
Tokkan Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 More or less, I was not talking about the "arcade mode", rather, the arcade system. Izayoi being the arcade exclusive playable, while Mikado being the console exclusive. Each being their respective's final boss. Yeah, that's still dumb. Having a character only playable in the arcade version and not the console one is just awful. Arc would be shooting themselves in the foot if they did that.
Nemesis Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 How come people always forget Phantom when they mention the characters they want playable? She's the most op shit in the story so far. I would be pretty excited to see phantom -- but im betting they are gonna flush out more of the story concerning "her" before any kind of character release... not to mention a seiyuu or whatnot... unless she will be the 1 silent char
Skye Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 Fuck (BBCSEX) 'Kune. But CP kune looks interesting, and doesn't seem to be a win-robber, so no offense to new Kune. Theoretically, he can still be under certain circumstances, but nonetheless, people will always hate him. I'm 100% sure he will be well hated in CP, to extents the likes of CT and CS1.
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