samthegreat Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 Eitherway, there's now way this incarnation of Rachel will be as sucky as CS Rachel... -.- Of course not, she's mid lol.
kirbster Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 I'm loving Rachel's new midscreen windless combo route off random counter hits, now we can get decent damage, corner carry and wind regen (because it's all grounded) without the use of wind So off CH 6a, CH j.c, random frog hit and probably more (bolded parts are interchangeable!) : [dash 5b > 6a > delay 236a > dash 3c > iris] > [dash 6a > 4b] > dash 5cc ---- Also, her new air confirm off j.c is gdlk as well... we can get a full combo off any random air to air hit with : [any air hits] > j.c > j.2d > land 6a > 4b > etc. --- And lastly, you can get this combo off normal hit anti-air 6a too it would seem... like even a really high 6a can be picked up with 5b because of they fall faster, into the aforementioned pickup. My hype for hime-sama in BBCP has been revived :D
TD Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 I'll save my hype for when lotus puts her in s tier.
Sakaku Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 Nice, that should be a fullscreen corner carry right? I wonder if that combo works from 5B 5CD 3C8D. Also, do we have some good combos with j.A starter now? Lotus still seems underused from what I've read.
NeoGio0o Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 No troll. Does Rachel have bat cock block mix up? Is she able to use the bats with the rods to cover her buttons up and just destroy hopes and dreams?
Zoular Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 236A has a repeat proration right, so you can't do two in one combo. Does that apply to B and C version's also? This link shows 236B used twice, unless I'm mistaken and one was a C version winded down. http://youtu.be/ixxznpV_xvY?t=1h54m1s
TD Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 the first lobelia looks like the c version, I may be seeing this wrong but before hitting the wall, the first lobelia goes higher than the second one. either way, it's highly likely that one is c version and the other is b version due to smp.
sparkaura Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XShfF2hHsOg N-O is god. There is 13 parts to this that jourdal posted, I may go through all of them and post the rachel matches in the video thread later.
Wild Candy Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 I have one question, what exactly does Barrel Lotus do, (The special that creates bats from the lobelia rods.)
sparkaura Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 It causes the opponent and Rachel to be more susceptible to wind when the opponent is hit. 22A affects horizontal(?) and 22B affects vertical(?) distance when the wind is being used. I may have missed some details but thats the gist of it.
TD Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 that's all we know besides the fact that the wind has homing properties with lotus which hasn't been seen much to make sense of. they don't affect the summons. maybe pole trajectory... lotus so mysterious. what if jp rachel players are working on a video all about the bats?
Wild Candy Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 Oh, well. I'm sure we'll figure it out soon enough... :/
sparkaura Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 that's all we know besides the fact that the wind has homing properties with lotus which hasn't been seen much to make sense of. they don't affect the summons. maybe pole trajectory... lotus so mysterious. what if jp rachel players are working on a video all about the bats? I'm beginning to think this way. Rachel already looks good this game (To my delight) but, I feel like lotus has some secret that'll make people bow to its awesomness.
C0R Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 I'm beginning to think this way. Rachel already looks good this game (To my delight) but, I feel like lotus has some secret that'll make people bow to its awesomness. Could very well be a rather pointless unique move that doesn't really see a whole lot of development. Read: Steel Rain.
TD Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 also possible but, we're hoping that's not the case.
kro_ Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 I've seen players using the horizontal version for better corner carry. You can also wallslam the opponent into the corner from a longer distance. I forgot which video it was, but I saw a Rachel player do unusually fast overheads from far away using bats and j.2c9d. That may have just been fatigue setting in though. I don't think Lotus will improve her average damage output in any way.
Rele Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 j.2c is an overhead again? Did I miss something? Goddamn I'm so rusty at BB, my combos look like CS1 Rachel damagewise :/
kirbster Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 Yeah so far it looks like it gives better corner carry which is always nice. Another use I saw for it was for a really sneaky winded 3c from almost fullscreen... it almost felt like a Tsubaki shield rush lol, so fast
samthegreat Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 That's the spirit bro, let's establish Rachy's S-tier status in Montreal first and then take over the world.
moofpie Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 (edited) So level 3 j.2C combos are completely gone now right? I really miss those. I wanna be hopeful and think that there's some undiscovered technique with Beelze Lotus (vertical one?) that allows for her to do them. I hardly see anyone use that version. Edited February 4, 2013 by moofpie
TD Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 probably not gone, but it might need to be early in the combo, like bbl, to continue. vertical lotus might make level 3 j.2c a really strong combo extender down the line. or not... also a silly inquiry but, why is rachel's astral damage so abysmal? it's like she's not even trying...
Rhannmah Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 (edited) also a silly inquiry but, why is rachel's astral damage so abysmal? it's like she's not even trying... she does whatever's left of the damage that needs to be done to reach 0 hp would you feel better if the damage counter wrote ∞ instead? But remember that Rachel is indeed not even trying. She just sends her pets to fight for her, and when she's defeated, it's actually Nago that's defeated, not her, as he takes all the hits for her. I hope that someday we get an alternate Rachel character where it's actually her that fights and not her zoo. Edited February 4, 2013 by Rhannmah
samthegreat Posted February 4, 2013 Posted February 4, 2013 But remember that Rachel is indeed not even trying. She just sends her pets to fight for her, and when she's defeated, it's actually Nago that's defeated, not her, as he takes all the hits for her. I hope that someday we get an alternate Rachel character where it's actually her that fights and not her zoo. The world is not ready for that, and neither is my body.
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